Machina reissue a go - Page 128

TheAlter · 03-30-2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by incubator

I remember around the release of Oceania, WPC talked about not liking Jeffs guitar playing. He wanted him to develop a style more to his liking so gave him homework of listening very carefully to George Harrison and Neil Young. He added that "It didn't really work".

Please find that interview, it'd be so much fun.

Jeff is basically the humble James Billy always wanted to have by his side. Someone who's conscious enough of the lucrative opportunity and be willing to put up with all the shit he's going to throw at him for no reason.

incubator · 03-30-2021, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAlter

Please find that interview, it'd be so much fun.

Jeff is basically the humble James Billy always wanted to have by his side. Someone who's conscious enough of the lucrative opportunity and be willing to put up with all the shit he's going to throw at him for no reason.

I've tried but it turns out that WPC mentions Neil Young several times nearly every time he's interviewed

incubator · 03-30-2021, 12:23 PM

Jeff mentions it here https://www.musicradar.com/news/guit...s-sound-565872 but I can't find the WPC interview sorry

T&T · 03-30-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by incubator

Not sure if he's said anything about Nicole ever.

he called her a dyke and said all gays should die.

but seriously: he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.

billy can truly be disgusting sometimes.

T&T · 03-30-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAlter

Lol
What is that even supposed to mean?

At least we've come full circle. The same control freak who centralizes everything ALSO expects you to question his narrative. Which will eventually get you fired, anyway.

so mr.billy is full of shit. as usual. I bet he thinks it's called 'playing the heel'

wHATcOLOR · 03-30-2021, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

I wonder if that's one of the reasons why Billy got angry at him. Vasily wished Billy happy birthday on Instagram and he didn't say anything, but was sharing everybody else's birthday posts.

haha this is such a classic bill thing to do. what a jerk

Forgotten Child · 03-30-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by incubator

Jeff mentions it here https://www.musicradar.com/news/guit...s-sound-565872 but I can't find the WPC interview sorry

I don't remember Billy saying hi didn't like Jeff's style at all, but I do remember him saying Jeff recorded a lot of stuff for Oceania that got axed because he didn't think it was the right direction. It was like he was fire against James because he also mentioned that Jeff was cool about that and very supportive of him.

AveryLoren · 03-30-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T&T

he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.

Never heard this before. I did hear rumors that Nicole's partner at the time was sort of Yoko Onoing the place, but again just rumors.

TheAlter · 03-30-2021, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by T&T

he called her a dyke and said all gays should die.

but seriously: he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.

billy can truly be disgusting sometimes.

Sounds like complete bullshit, tbh. He could have easily picked up someone else to play bass, anyway.

TheAlter · 03-30-2021, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AveryLoren

Never heard this before. I did hear rumors that Nicole's partner at the time was sort of Yoko Onoing the place, but again just rumors.

Care to elaborate? A Billy vs imaginary Yoko beef, what an age to live.

T&T · 03-30-2021, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAlter

Sounds like complete bullshit, tbh. He could have easily picked up someone else to play bass, anyway.

he did.

mike was garbage - and dismissed with reason.
Nicole was great. why did she leave? was any statement ever made?
ginger left to "start a family"...
the keyboard players were never members.

Ram27 · 03-30-2021, 07:47 PM

of course listening to gish stuff, jimmy's parts are embarrassing. he was just trying to develop what corgan was giving him.

slunken · 03-30-2021, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

He also talked about it on Instagram. he said the disagreements were both professional and personal.

EG: MONEY

slunken · 03-30-2021, 08:11 PM

I will say the one positive thing post-2000 SP did was get me into The Seeds

slunken · 03-30-2021, 08:12 PM

But it's clear Vasily isn't contributing his artwork for no reason at all and it's clear BC isn't getting it for no reason at all

Fuck you Billy

slunken · 03-30-2021, 08:13 PM

Just reissue the fucking thing in blank sleeves you colossal iditiot

AveryLoren · 03-30-2021, 08:15 PM

I asked Vasily on IG and he said Billy has never contacted him about the Machina reissue. Could just be fibbing, who knows?

slunken · 03-30-2021, 08:20 PM

If I were Vasily (and that was true) this would bum me out

What a load of shit

slunken · 03-30-2021, 08:21 PM

William Patrick "Dollar Tree" Corgan

slunken · 03-30-2021, 08:21 PM

lolol the dollar tree of mercury

teh b0lly!!1 · 03-31-2021, 02:51 AM

this is the buck i've been spending my whole life

Ram27 · 03-31-2021, 03:19 AM

i hate myself and i wanna die

houseofglass11 · 03-31-2021, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ram27

of course listening to gish stuff, jimmy's parts are embarrassing. he was just trying to develop what corgan was giving him.

Embarrassing? Dafuq. Jim’s drumming on Gish is incredible because he was improvising more and not holding back like Corgan made him do on Siamese Dream.

DiscoJon · 03-31-2021, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Embarrassing? Dafuq. Jim’s drumming on Gish is incredible because he was improvising more and not holding back like Corgan made him do on Siamese Dream.

Yeah because the percussion on Siamese Dream is so fucking bad. Jesus Christ this forum.

DiscoJon · 03-31-2021, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by T&T

he did.

mike was garbage - and dismissed with reason.
Nicole was great. why did she leave? was any statement ever made?
ginger left to "start a family"...
the keyboard players were never members.

Yeah a 20 year old playing at Mike's level was "garbage." Jesus Christ what the fuck is your deal? All these posts and what are you? Fucking shit. Absolute shit.

DiscoJon · 03-31-2021, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by T&T

he called her a dyke and said all gays should die.

but seriously: he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.

billy can truly be disgusting sometimes.

Got a link to this story or are you just talking out your ass as usual?

T&T · 03-31-2021, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by incubator

After firing Mike & Nicole he said he wasn't happy with the vibe and "nicey niceness",

so the new zwan members too immoral = fuck off
new SP members too nice = fuck off
Billy really knows what he wants...

Vasily was probably asked to PAY to have his artwork used. cuz without SP he'd be a nobody. Billy is king and everything he touches is gold.

and finally
fuck you disco jon. you know nothing about this band. NOTHING.

DiscoJon · 03-31-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by T&T

so the new zwan members too immoral = fuck off
new SP members too nice = fuck off
Billy really knows what he wants...

Vasily was probably asked to PAY to have his artwork used. cuz without SP he'd be a nobody. Billy is king and everything he touches is gold.

and finally
fuck you disco jon. you know nothing about this band. NOTHING.

LOL god you're such a coward. Such a fucking wimp. And you can't even quote me. LOL

Trash like you are why fans like me from '91 think you and this forum are such a fucking joke.

Grow up. Move on. Get some help.

run2pee · 03-31-2021, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ram27

of course listening to gish stuff, jimmy's parts are embarrassing. he was just trying to develop what corgan was giving him.

incubator · 03-31-2021, 08:59 AM

I'm a fan from the way back in the polka party days, 1991 is practically a spring chicken Johnny come lately casual fan who heard rat in a cage on the radio at their gas station job

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03-30-2021, 12:23 PM	#3813
incubator Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,235	Jeff mentions it here https://www.musicradar.com/news/guit...s-sound-565872 but I can't find the WPC interview sorry

03-30-2021, 07:47 PM	#3822
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	of course listening to gish stuff, jimmy's parts are embarrassing. he was just trying to develop what corgan was giving him.

03-30-2021, 08:11 PM	#3824
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	I will say the one positive thing post-2000 SP did was get me into The Seeds

03-30-2021, 08:12 PM	#3825
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	But it's clear Vasily isn't contributing his artwork for no reason at all and it's clear BC isn't getting it for no reason at all Fuck you Billy

03-30-2021, 08:13 PM	#3826
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	Just reissue the fucking thing in blank sleeves you colossal iditiot

03-30-2021, 08:15 PM	#3827
AveryLoren Apocalyptic Poster Location: Upside Down Narnia Posts: 1,901	I asked Vasily on IG and he said Billy has never contacted him about the Machina reissue. Could just be fibbing, who knows?

03-30-2021, 08:20 PM	#3828
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	If I were Vasily (and that was true) this would bum me out What a load of shit

03-30-2021, 08:21 PM	#3829
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	William Patrick "Dollar Tree" Corgan

03-30-2021, 08:21 PM	#3830
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	lolol the dollar tree of mercury

03-31-2021, 02:51 AM	#3831
teh b0lly!!1 Braindead Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS Posts: 17,399	this is the buck i've been spending my whole life

03-31-2021, 03:19 AM	#3832
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	i hate myself and i wanna die

03-31-2021, 08:59 AM	#3840
incubator Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,235	I'm a fan from the way back in the polka party days, 1991 is practically a spring chicken Johnny come lately casual fan who heard rat in a cage on the radio at their gas station job