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12-17-2020, 12:08 PM | #3511 |
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FoolofaTook always on it with his avatar game.
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12-17-2020, 12:30 PM | #3512 |
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True, but the same could be said of all the other aspects ("games") of my life.
I'm humbled by my success. |
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12-17-2020, 02:04 PM | #3513 |
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12-17-2020, 02:36 PM | #3514 |
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Recap of mixing info yielded:
New mixes: MI: The Imploding Voice, This Time, Age Of Innocence, Here's To The Atom Bomb MII: Glass' Theme, Cash Car Star, Dross, Innosense, Let Me Give The World To You, White Spyder, In My Body, Home, Slow Dawn, BSBT Heavy, Vanity, Soul Power, Lucky 13, Try Try Try, Heavy Metal Machine, If There Is A God (Piano) Using old mixes or tape transfers: MI:The Crying Tree Of Mercury, The Everlasting Gaze, The Sacred And Profane, Heavy Metal Machine, Glass And The Ghost Children, Blue Skies Bring Tears, With Every Light, Speed Kills MII: Le Deux Machina (with overdubs), Real Love Mentioned but choice ultimately not specified: MI:Try, Try Try, Stand Inside Your Love, I Of The Mourning (multiple choices listed) Didn't discuss publicly: MI: Raindrops + Sunshowers, Wound MII: Go, Atom Bomb, Saturnine, Glass alt version, Cash Car Star V1, Speed Kills (heavy) FAEOMM tape material: Versions/takes of Glass' Theme, Dross & MII Heavy Metal Machine, If There Is A God (Full band), Blue Skies Bring tears V1/Arising, Disco King (Everlasting Gaze demo) New additions: Pale Scales Promise Laugh Don't Want To Be Your Lover Le Deux Machina 3 Winterlong Soot And Stars Identify Without You Untitled |
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12-17-2020, 02:40 PM | #3515 |
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-I think that Billy specifically chose not to mention what's being done with Raindrops + Sunshowers could be indicative that track will be a complete surprise: He's mentioned that it went through the most changes out of any of the Machina tracks, with the leaked version sounding nothing like the MI version.
-We know Jimmy re-did drums for White Spyder, and Bill said "We do have the masters. But wait, there's a surprise. This version has Jimmy playing drums on it." Squinting at that info indicates to me they did a new mix and used Jimmy's new drum take as was planned. -I'm guessing he didn't cover Go publicly as he said he always confers with James for the choices needed for his songs, so that was something he couldn't update on the fly. -What's odd to me is that he's mentioned two versions of Heavy Metal Machine (really?), Blue Skies Bring Tears, and Le Deux Machina during his discussions, and now he's talking about looking at 30 tracks for bonus stuff. I didn't think he was going to put different versions of the same track on the album, so who knows how the fuck that'll work. :P -The FAEOMM tape stuff is largely different versions of MII tracks which we know are being remixed from the ground up anyway, but I do hope If There Is A God (Full band) and BSBT V1/Arising wind up present somehow even if as just bonus tracks. -Out of 51 tracks planned for the core release, we know 20 are new mixes, 10 are older mixes or tape transfers, 10 are tracks that never appeared on MI or II, 3 tracks have been mentioned as present but unspecified. R&S and Wound will be on there, maybe Go as well (assuming he doesn't relegate it to bonus material as tends to happen to James tracks - but it'd be fucking nice to have it on for a change, wouldn't it?). So that's 45 or 46 tracks we know for sure, and 5-6 odd tracks that could be and probably are anything from stuff we know about but he didn't mention yet, shit we have no clue about, or new tracks altogether. Last edited by Shadaloo : 12-17-2020 at 04:11 PM. |
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12-17-2020, 03:40 PM | #3516 |
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12-17-2020, 04:25 PM | #3517 |
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A few miscellaneous tracks that could be candidates for the stuff not mentioned yet.
Satellites - On Adore Demos II. But so was Lover/Don't Wanna Be Your Lover, and an acoustic Without You demo, and those two are showing up on the reissue, Without You in electric form. He might look at it as a Machina era track or a candidate for one, it wasn't on the Adore reissue. -Autumn, Drain, and Here I Am off Machina Acoustic Demos, and Sleeping Giant from the leaks haven't been mentioned lately. I think they were in the huge list he compiled last year, I forget if Satellites was on there too. |
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12-17-2020, 04:32 PM | #3518 |
Minion of Satan
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12-17-2020, 05:13 PM | #3519 |
Saturday Night Goth
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I think Raindrops and Sunshowers is gonna be that awesome version that leaked here a few years back. Sort of an up-tempo thrasher. It was fucking sick and Billy got really pissed about it leaking, which makes me think he was planning on using it for this reissue, as extra material if nothing else. It was far superior to the albblum version in any case, which goes on far too long and lacks any fuzz whatsoever
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12-17-2020, 06:34 PM | #3520 |
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the going on far too long is something that returns many times on the album
luckily, with its 521223 new tracks, the reissue will not have something resembling going on too long I'm sure |
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12-17-2020, 06:53 PM | #3521 | |
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Quote:
the only other different tracks are BSBT (as mentioned) and an early take of Glass' Theme. Dross is missing the "bring it jimmy" overdub |
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12-17-2020, 09:45 PM | #3522 |
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12-17-2020, 10:27 PM | #3523 |
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How many people will buy this?
2500? less? |
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12-18-2020, 06:22 AM | #3524 |
Demi-God
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I mean I will I guess. I want to complete my collection of the original band album reissues. And I’m curious about these alt takes and mixes and stuff. After Adore this is the one I wanted the most.
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12-18-2020, 08:10 AM | #3525 |
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When is the mahina the machines of god and machina 2 the friends and enemies of modern music reissue coming out
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12-18-2020, 08:12 AM | #3526 |
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12-18-2020, 01:24 PM | #3527 |
Demi-God
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Have there been any actual updates from Billy in the last couple of weeks on this?
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12-19-2020, 12:35 PM | #3528 |
Ownz
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Yeah, last update was that they’d begun mixing-remixing non-album tracks
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12-19-2020, 07:40 PM | #3529 |
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“Good news: We are putting together all the Machina pieces today (main+reconstituted album+extra tracks) so the project is officially complete (save the mastering process and the artwork) Thank you for your interest thus far”
Late Summer feels possible depending on how quickly the record company wants this out/production. |
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12-19-2020, 07:48 PM | #3530 |
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12-19-2020, 08:01 PM | #3531 |
Socialphobic
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they should just release it online for free. 2020 christmas gift.
let the vinyl come when it comes. |
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12-19-2020, 08:14 PM | #3532 |
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Main PLUS reconstituted album?
dafook? |
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12-19-2020, 08:16 PM | #3533 |
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disregarding anything billy said in the past (because he is a liar) does anyone think the vinyl reissue will just be the straight up Machina 2xLP and the resequenced version will on the CD box set?
or is everyone expecting a 5xLP resequenced reissue? |
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12-20-2020, 12:29 AM | #3534 |
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why wasn't someone doing the artwork while he was working on mixes / finding lost tapes?
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12-20-2020, 12:30 AM | #3535 |
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12-20-2020, 01:15 AM | #3536 |
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12-21-2020, 05:31 AM | #3537 |
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Including the original sequence and a reworked sequence would be a massive waste of fucking time and disc space. If the original sequence was good (it wasn't), we wouldn't need a rework.
So... of course that is what we'll get. Instead of a live show, for example. |
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12-21-2020, 06:25 AM | #3538 |
Ownz
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I guess but we also got the mono and remastered versions of Adore, so there’s precedent for that kind of weird “extra”
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12-21-2020, 10:58 AM | #3539 |
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They will obviously have two releases. I'm guessing the final boxet will be very dear, therefore they will also sell the double album to the general public.
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12-21-2020, 03:01 PM | #3540 |
Minion of Satan
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what business does the general, filthy public have with my coveted theoretical Machina reissue?
i bet they don't even know about the mystery, fuck them |
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