Or the transition from camo-TG to PTV when Gen got kicked out of England when the police raided his house for video tapes of ritual sex, abuse, torment, and other x-rated materials.
or when coil included audio of children being abused
Worlds apart from skinny pale guys sucking in their cheeks at a local club trying to look like a mysterious vampire
to be sincere for a moment i think if you're looking for a moment when those lines blurred it would probably be SPK or skinny puppy? taking the grotesque inhuman/human parts of industrial and merging them with the romantic/pop-driven vampire parts of goth? cabaret voltaire had a really slow transition but i think always remained pretty "industrial" (ie - were never sexy vampires)
I feel like a real f## having conversations like this screw you guys lol
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