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houseofglass11 05-12-2021 03:00 PM

Foo Fighters to be inducted into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame before SP??
 
Not hard to believe since Dave is such an industry brown noser and glad hander, but a total joke for Foo Fighters to make it before SP. Thoughts? Did Billy burn too many bridges? Has he not played the game? Has he tarnished his legacy? Your best BcAnon theories pls.

TheAlter 05-12-2021 03:35 PM

It totally makes sense, the two bands are no longer in the same league.

WPC has sort of retreated in the upper Chicago suburbs with a circle of non famous characters, while Dave Grohl and the Foos are rock royalty. They go out with Sir Paul McCartney for fuck's sake!


run2pee 05-12-2021 05:37 PM

Lol nice

ninsp 05-12-2021 06:55 PM

Let’s see, the Foos have been the kings of radio rock for 20+ years, sell out arenas, headline SNL, sell records, have #1 singles, are seen as one of the last “rock” bands and Dave Grohl seems to be universally loved by everyone.

Billy’s band was relevant for 4 years, released two classic albums, a bunch of mediocre music, a bunch of garbage reunion albums, acts like an immature twat in public, can’t sell out tiny venues anymore and albums don’t even chart any longer. They’re like the REO Speedwagon of the 90s. They should really do more 90s Nostalgia concert tours with bands like Smash Mouth, because that’s all they are.

Fuck Billy Corgan.

Shallowed 05-12-2021 08:13 PM

the rock and roll HOF is an irrelevant self-congratulatory farce anyway, just like the Grammys and the Oscars

even if it wasn't, Billy would still deserve to get snubbed

ninsp 05-12-2021 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shallowed (Post 4578911)
the rock and roll HOF is an irrelevant self-congratulatory farce anyway, just like the Grammys and the Oscars

even if it wasn't, Billy would still deserve to get snubbed

Edgy

Shallowed 05-13-2021 12:02 AM

- ninsp

GreenDogGlynis 05-13-2021 12:20 AM

While its obvious that SP is a much better band, apparently Billy has ticked a lot of people off. While I like the first few ff records, their meteoric rise around 2006-2008 and beyond has never really made sense to me. The post grunge pop thing they had going on in the early days was a breath of fresh air when a lot of the iconic 90s bands had met bad ends or flamed out on their own seriousness, so I definitely understand why people liked them during that period. After that, I get a little puzzled.

wHATcOLOR 05-13-2021 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAlter (Post 4578905)
It totally makes sense, the two bands are no longer in the same league.

WPC has sort of retreated in the upper Chicago suburbs with a circle of non famous characters, while Dave Grohl and the Foos are rock royalty. They go out with Sir Paul McCartney for fuck's sake!


Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4578907)
Let’s see, the Foos have been the kings of radio rock for 20+ years, sell out arenas, headline SNL, sell records, have #1 singles, are seen as one of the last “rock” bands and Dave Grohl seems to be universally loved by everyone.


this sums it up well

Funbags 05-13-2021 03:09 AM

Yeah, Foo Fighters can fill stadiums anywhere in the world. They're in the same category as Queen, AC/DC, Metallica, U2, etc.

Cool As Ice Cream 05-13-2021 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4578907)
Let’s see, the Foos have been the kings of radio rock for 20+ years, sell out arenas, headline SNL, sell records, have #1 singles, are seen as one of the last “rock” bands and Dave Grohl seems to be universally loved by everyone.

Billy’s band was relevant for 4 years, released two classic albums, a bunch of mediocre music, a bunch of garbage reunion albums, acts like an immature twat in public, can’t sell out tiny venues anymore and albums don’t even chart any longer. They’re like the REO Speedwagon of the 90s. They should really do more 90s Nostalgia concert tours with bands like Smash Mouth, because that’s all they are.

Fuck Billy Corgan.

you should change your username to ninff.

VoxUpDoc 05-13-2021 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4578907)
Let’s see, the Foos have been the kings of radio rock for 20+ years, sell out arenas, headline SNL, sell records, have #1 singles, are seen as one of the last “rock” bands and Dave Grohl seems to be universally loved by everyone.

Billy’s band was relevant for 4 years, released two classic albums, a bunch of mediocre music, a bunch of garbage reunion albums, acts like an immature twat in public, can’t sell out tiny venues anymore and albums don’t even chart any longer. They’re like the REO Speedwagon of the 90s. They should really do more 90s Nostalgia concert tours with bands like Smash Mouth, because that’s all they are.

Fuck Billy Corgan.

This is it ^^^

eviltimeban 05-13-2021 06:49 AM

FF have made the same record each time for the last 20 years, much like Pearl Jam.

What if SP had done that? 20 years of MCIS or SD soundalikes.

houseofglass11 05-13-2021 07:33 AM

Interesting take there ninff, because the FF were also relevant for four years and released two classic albums, released a bunch of crap ever since, and are the REO Speedwagon of the 2000’s to present. It must be Dave’s Nirvana clout.

TheAlter 05-13-2021 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eviltimeban (Post 4578921)
FF have made the same record each time for the last 20 years, much like Pearl Jam.

What if SP had done that? 20 years of MCIS or SD soundalikes.

Get the doc Brown in here now. That scenario looks rad.


VoxUpDoc 05-13-2021 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houseofglass11 (Post 4578922)
Interesting take there ninff, because the FF were also relevant for four years and released two classic albums, released a bunch of crap ever since.

Correction.... crap that sells.

Foo Fighters dropped off a cliff after the mid-00's and bizarrely seemed to get more popular releasing bland singles throughout the 2010's.

FF are still relevant because they could sell out an international arena tour in an instant.

Cool As Ice Cream 05-13-2021 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoxUpDoc (Post 4578924)
FF are still relevant because they could sell out an international arena tour in an instant.

that doesn't make them relevant, does it?

Oklahoma Sexual 05-13-2021 10:03 AM

rage against the machine didn't make it. hate to agree with BPC on this one, but the R&R HOF is a joke.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shallowed (Post 4578911)
even if it wasn't, Billy would still deserve to get snubbed


AveryLoren 05-13-2021 10:08 AM

It might be a hard pill to swallow but Dave and the Foo fighters are far more popular and accomplished than SP. Like, way more popular. SP at its full throttle 96 peak is just an average day for the Foo's. Dave is an absolute beast of a musician as well. Billy was a better songwriter at his best, but the longevity of SP is marred by years of his whining and bad music.

inkless 05-13-2021 10:14 AM

whats the point to be before or after ?


For me foo fighters is the band of dave from nirvana.....

Funbags 05-13-2021 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream (Post 4578925)
that doesn't make them relevant, does it?

They've surpassed relevancy and become legendary. They're basically like Rush.

inkless 05-13-2021 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AveryLoren (Post 4578927)
It might be a hard pill to swallow but Dave and the Foo fighters are far more popular and accomplished than SP. Like, way more popular. SP at its full throttle 96 peak is just an average day for the Foo's. Dave is an absolute beast of a musician as well. Billy was a better songwriter at his best, but the longevity of SP is marred by years of his whining and bad music.


i wouldn't like the sp if they were more popular...

AveryLoren 05-13-2021 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoxUpDoc (Post 4578924)
Correction.... crap that sells.
Foo Fighters dropped off a cliff after the mid-00's and bizarrely seemed to get more popular releasing bland singles throughout the 2010's.

After the mid 00's? Echoes is a banger and Wasting Light is a masterpiece.

They have 12 #1 hit singles. By comparison SP only has one hit song (if we're being total commercial here) with 1979.

Gooch 05-13-2021 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AveryLoren (Post 4578931)
After the mid 00's? Echoes is a banger and Wasting Light is a masterpiece.

They have 12 #1 hit singles. By comparison SP only has one hit song (if we're being total commercial here) with 1979.

That rat in a cage song was good. And Darcy has tits. That’s gotta count for something

AveryLoren 05-13-2021 10:45 AM

While MCIS is a diamond release, it only sold 100,000 more albums than SD from 1995 to 2012. It's around 5 mil copies (it literally only counts as a diamond album based on a technicality).

Technically SP stands at 14.2 million album sales (adjusted for the bloated sales of MCIS). The Foo's are over 30+ million despite not capturing that 91-93 wave/spike in album sales.

30 top ten radio singles vs SP's 14. A similar organization would be the Grammy's - Foo's have 11 wins and 27 nominations vs SP's 2 wins, 11 nominations.

I'm not trying to say I like the Foo's over SP, but it shouldn't be any surprise that they're in the HoF. I mean Dave hangs out with Macca and has side projects with Zeppelin royalty.

Billy really did it to himself and truly, he could have been as big as Dave had he not let his ego get the best of him.

AveryLoren 05-13-2021 10:47 AM

The overall story of the Pumpkins will always be a tragic tale.

Butt Pope 05-13-2021 11:19 AM

Foo Fighters are so boring but it makes sense.

Butt Pope 05-13-2021 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAlter (Post 4578905)
It totally makes sense, the two bands are no longer in the same league.

WPC has sort of retreated in the upper Chicago suburbs with a circle of non famous characters, while Dave Grohl and the Foos are rock royalty. They go out with Sir Paul McCartney for fuck's sake!


Is that Beck or Kenneth the Page?

Butt Pope 05-13-2021 11:20 AM

Also Beck should be in R&R HOF. Insane range in this music styles. Has done whatever he wants for the past 25 years. Can rap and sing.

The man does it all.

killtrocity 05-13-2021 12:20 PM

90s Foo Fighters =/= 2021 Foo Fighters. SP basically died in 2000. FF did not. You all are living in the pass


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