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slunken 03-16-2021 11:59 PM

1999-12-21 get your head blown off
 
https://www.livexlive.com/video/72dc...9-6f2f2e854c4e

via SPLRA

slunken 03-17-2021 12:00 AM

this is my favorite live show of all time i've "creamed" my "jeans"

slunken 03-17-2021 12:09 AM

merge this with the splra thread

watch me go off anyway

MyKeyZ 03-17-2021 12:24 AM

Melissa Auf De Fart Bass

slunken 03-17-2021 12:46 AM

i can look past it

this show slays

Ram27 03-17-2021 01:32 AM

is anyone able to download this?

youtube-dl got me a 15kB mp3 and nothing more

Ram27 03-17-2021 01:33 AM

and so this is the only [worthwhile / golden era] HD gig too. good shit

Raskolnikov 03-17-2021 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram27 (Post 4576423)
is anyone able to download this?

Sure do - when this showed up a few years ago, I saved that baby because yes, this show rocks.

https://we.tl/t-ZyDR1mPA9N

My favorite moment is that tandem BC/JI solo during Ava Adore at the 39:20 mark when Billy gives him that little hand gesture like "this, it's time" then they do that awesome tandem solo that is like Metallica-esque. I'm way into it.

Raskolnikov 03-17-2021 02:39 AM

Other thoughts:

1.) That end of HMM around the 20:30 mark is white hot.

2.) Love how that slides righttttt into that rad version of Zero. Billy was INTO that vocal performance.

3.) And from that chaos into one of those awesome 99/00 To Sheila versions... phew. Chef's kiss there.

4.) Both Wound AND Age of Innosence, which are two songs that really represent the best of Machina to me at this point, 21 years out.

5.) Great spacey outro to CTOM around that 58 mark. And a bonus excellent shot of that security guy passing around sips of water. Remember how good sips of water like that tasted in the middle of a show? Sometimes I think those saved my life.

6.) And realizing at this point that I don't think I've ever watched the back 1/3 of this show, which appears to be a grave error, because it seems to have some great gems buried in there... that XYU looks spicy.

Ram27 03-17-2021 03:04 AM

hell fucking yeah, thanks!!!!

i don't fuck with streaming and trusting others to maintain content i love. spotify bad, etc. this may or may not be some form of mental illness

gonna watch this bad boy thru and post some shit. absolutely love that dual lead thing in ava adore

Slygmous 03-17-2021 07:05 AM

is this the only pro recording of live CTOM?

I've always had a soft spot for that song, particularly the live version.

T&T 03-17-2021 10:35 AM

this is a great show. Big love.

sweet17 03-17-2021 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ (Post 4576421)
Melissa Auf De Fart Bass

Ugh. Her tone is horrendous.

That Zero performance though. Damn.

Funbags 03-17-2021 12:02 PM

This is the second show with Melissa after D'arcy left.

Ram27 03-17-2021 03:50 PM

is part of the reason she sounds bad cause they have to play shit in like drop C?

~~~

metro gig thots

- this is shot and mixed so well

- love james' raygun holster on his mic stand

- corgan has that same blue effects switcher thing he had for the 93 SD release shows

- band sounds kind of awkward on age of innocence. this is i guess one of the first few times they've played it live. plus it's a pretty dry SBD. corgan points to everyone in turn before HMM, like 'are you ready'

- monster jim fill at 10:55

- i like the all black costumes more than what they became. it's kinda cool in the whole 'fake rock star persona' thing cause generally stagehands wear all black to blend in. and corgan [or corgan's character] is...trying to disappear or some shit, you know

- the fucking mosh pit at the end of HMM!! fucking hell so cool, they need to play small clubs again

- this version of to sheila should've been played more. it is absolutely beautiful, the definition of ethereal. there is one (1) person holding up a lighter. 31:05 corgan nods to jim telling him to end the song

- corgan seems really into the gig. i love when he makes little 'ohh' or 'yeah' interjections during songs - sounds so badass

- wound was absolutely underplayed on the machina tour [and beyond]. james is using a capo on it! this is a dumb probably insignificant thing but i could've sworn they never used capos live for anything until 2007

- arising era Ava adore rocks so fucking hard with the intro riffing. the 'drinking mercury' bridge section is peak pumpkins. the twin solo is an incredible early christmas present

- love when corgan *stares* at somebody in the crowd when playing a difficult part

- jim's FACE during the i am one rant. he's just like...well i guess i can use this as a chop-out exercise

- "Do not let the negative barrage of the internet and the magazines, the radio, the TV penetrate your very soul." hey what's up bill

- melissa has a music stand with notes

- rock on is bad and it never stops being bad or starts being good. imagine being sweaty and tired in the audience having to stand thru this

- 1:07:53 JIMMY

- i of the mourning sections with clean guitars sound gorgeous. i feel like there's way more reverb that usual? the song overall feels like it's played in a much more dreamy way versus the heavier versions later on

- lol @ corgan's face when he fucks up a note in the cherub solo

- enjoying the all taylor acoustic setup. so cozy how they're all sitting so close. JC steals a pick from bill's mic stand. enjoying hearing presumably jimmy hitting wrong notes

- the shot of JC from the guy standing behind the drums was woefully underutilized. poor guy had to have a 1990s camera wrecking his shoulder and back and not even get in the final cut that much

- look at bill and jim have a good time around 1h49m

- he's got the wah foot from hell

- disappointed learning that the little jam they ostensibly wrote in japan when james was sick and corgan was being a dick was just this song they've been playing since before the tour started. does anyone want to hear this bullshit if it's rehearsed? that makes it even more wanky and dumb

cork_soaker 03-17-2021 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram27 (Post 4576458)

- corgan has that same blue effects switcher thing he had for the 93 SD release shows

blue thing is the rocktron all access. he started using it during the machina era (possibly adore, though i've never seen a good shot of his setup)



sd-mcis was an rfc-1 lake butler mitigator

sweet17 03-17-2021 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram27 (Post 4576458)
is part of the reason she sounds bad cause they have to play shit in like drop C?

If she's playing in drop-C the whole concert, yeah, that's very possible. It has the same wet-fart noise of a bass guitar string wound too loosely, so that would make sense.

I think it's weird to learn an entire suite of songs in a drop-tuning that's only used on (IIRC) TEG and HMM, but I guess it's possible that's what happened.

Ram27 03-17-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cork_soaker (Post 4576460)
blue thing is the rocktron all access. he started using it during the machina era (possibly adore, though i've never seen a good shot of his setup)



sd-mcis was an rfc-1 lake butler mitigator

oh fuck me i am ashamed. the memory i have of the blue thing that i was accessing was from some guitar interview on YouTube from the [shudder] oceania era

i was confusing metro/metro with HD video/HD video

cork_soaker 03-17-2021 05:41 PM

it's ok

Ram27 03-17-2021 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov (Post 4576427)
Other thoughts:

1.) That end of HMM around the 20:30 mark is white hot.

2.) Love how that slides righttttt into that rad version of Zero. Billy was INTO that vocal performance.

3.) And from that chaos into one of those awesome 99/00 To Sheila versions... phew. Chef's kiss there.

4.) Both Wound AND Age of Innosence, which are two songs that really represent the best of Machina to me at this point, 21 years out.

5.) Great spacey outro to CTOM around that 58 mark. And a bonus excellent shot of that security guy passing around sips of water. Remember how good sips of water like that tasted in the middle of a show? Sometimes I think those saved my life.

6.) And realizing at this point that I don't think I've ever watched the back 1/3 of this show, which appears to be a grave error, because it seems to have some great gems buried in there... that XYU looks spicy.

SUCH good versions of To Sheila and Zero

love the XYU too but i fucking died laughing at the line i'm the type of boy that writes poetry and if you're lucky i'll fuck you too

slunken 03-17-2021 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov (Post 4576425)
Sure do - when this showed up a few years ago, I saved that baby because yes, this show rocks.

https://we.tl/t-ZyDR1mPA9N

had no idea the upgrade for this show was already available. i've still been watching the JBTV version. you're the man.

look at the heads that have been ripped apart though.

Reyngel 03-18-2021 03:17 AM

The best part is Billy and James right before We Love You, with James improv soloing with the ray gun while Billy provided commentary.

Big Truck05 03-20-2021 01:57 AM

I don't know band dynamics, but Mellisa is so hot. IDK. I'd just be trying to impress her the entire time. lol.

Funbags 03-20-2021 03:33 AM

Machina era Melissa isn't going to fuck you, Big_Truck05

slunken 03-20-2021 12:13 PM

that's because we already had sex and she retired from sex after me

Big Truck05 03-20-2021 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funbags (Post 4576625)
Machina era Melissa isn't going to fuck you, Big_Truck05

I know... dang it!

Big Truck05 03-20-2021 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 4576640)
that's because we already had sex and she retired from sex after me

:smoke: I've heard this is true!

Skradgee 03-21-2021 01:37 AM

The Metro! I’ve been there! It was closed.

Shallowed 03-21-2021 05:06 AM

footage of shows like this puts a big dumb smile on my face and makes me miss the fuck out of live music

selection7 03-24-2021 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov (Post 4576425)
Sure do - when this showed up a few years ago, I saved that baby because yes, this show rocks.

https://we.tl/t-ZyDR1mPA9N

My favorite moment is that tandem BC/JI solo during Ava Adore at the 39:20 mark when Billy gives him that little hand gesture like "this, it's time" then they do that awesome tandem solo that is like Metallica-esque. I'm way into it.

Only a week late and it says the link has expired. Could you please post again?


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