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The exploding boy 02-08-2015 07:29 PM

Probably don't buy those from china...which most of them are.

I considered getting a knockoff Gibson EB-2 bass forever two years ago because the body looked fantastic. what i heard bout chinese knockoffs is...usually the body is fine. It's the electronics they skimp on. A lot of people who know their shit buy a chinese knock off then change the electronics. If you have knowledge of this shit it can be worth it..on the other hand, you'll sitll have to get some decent pickups unless you have some lying about.


Also about knockoffs, there's some shameless knockoffs that actually will have brand names on the headstock. I hear that customs are aware of those and often times won't let them in. Which means you waste the money and get nothing. Anyway it goes without saying anyone actually using brand names for their knockoffs are probably so morally wrong that their instruments must be all kind of awful.

do you know rondomusic? They have instrument ranging from like 80$ to 600$

(there's a jaguar knockoff on that page)

http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar-ss4.html

Their knockoffs have a good reputation and are really cheap. The semi hollow bass to the far left i posted above is from rondo. For the price i paid (400 but the shipping was very high because i'm in canada AND they wouldnt send it without a case which i also had to buy...great case actually for the price), i'm very happy. They're american but what they actually do is they DO buy knockoff bodies (well not JUst knockoffs some are original i think, like my bass is close to an eb2 body wise but isn't exactly an eb-2) from chinese factories but put their own electronics in.

I can't guarantee you'd like it but it's worth looking into. You could possibly find reviews.


For jaguar though, you could go with squier no? Probably would be better than any knockoff.

noyen 02-08-2015 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4152423)
Probably don't buy those from china...which most of them are.

I considered getting a knockoff Gibson EB-2 bass forever two years ago because the body looked fantastic. what i heard bout chinese knockoffs is...usually the body is fine. It's the electronics they skimp on. A lot of people who know their shit buy a chinese knock off then change the electronics. If you have knowledge of this shit it can be worth it..on the other hand, you'll sitll have to get some decent pickups unless you have some lying about.


Also about knockoffs, there's some shameless knockoffs that actually will have brand names on the headstock. I hear that customs are aware of those and often times won't let them in. Which means you waste the money and get nothing. Anyway it goes without saying anyone actually using brand names for their knockoffs are probably so morally wrong that their instruments must be all kind of awful.

do you know rondomusic? They have instrument ranging from like 80$ to 600$

(there's a jaguar knockoff on that page)

http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar-ss4.html

Their knockoffs have a good reputation and are really cheap. The semi hollow bass to the far left i posted above is from rondo. For the price i paid (400 but the shipping was very high because i'm in canada AND they wouldnt send it without a case which i also had to buy...great case actually for the price), i'm very happy. They're american but what they actually do is they DO buy knockoff bodies (well not JUst knockoffs some are original i think, like my bass is close to an eb2 body wise but isn't exactly an eb-2) from chinese factories but put their own electronics in.

I can't guarantee you'd like it but it's worth looking into. You could possibly find reviews.


For jaguar though, you could go with squier no? Probably would be better than any knockoff.


awesome, thanks for the response. yeah, i am actually okay with messing with internal electronic components and stuff. i do a lot of soldering and projects like that.

ill def check out rondo music. looks like stuff im looking for.

you're right about the squires. they play fine. its just something about it in my head with branding i need to get over. i'd be fine with some wild name/no name guitar but for some reason squire's have never impressed me in the past. ive heard they have all gotten better and the difference between usa and squire isnt so large now. it's the made in japan fenders that are actually really well made. at least in my experience.

thanks dude. exactly what i was lookin for.

The exploding boy 02-08-2015 08:33 PM

I'm anti branding too. Well what i mean is...there's so many people willing to pay ridiculous amounts of cash to get brand names when sometimes the difference is so slight in quality. Or they're not serious enough about music or play well enough that it should really make a difference (id probably have to ******* myself in those). I mean they don't realise that PART of the reason for the much higher price IS the brand name. Like a 800$ Gibson is rarely twice as good as a 400$ Epiphone. You have to factor the brand into the price. Personally ill play anything, any knockoff bullshit, if it sounds and plays alright to my ears. I don't care about the brand. But for some it's like, if it doesn't say fender or gibson they won't be seen with it...

Ultimately with cheaper instruments though, unless you can find reviews or try it for yourself before buying, it's always gonna be a BIT of a crapshoot. As long as you're aware of that.. But you can always resell. You'r already ahead of me if you can mess with electronics. I have no patience for this shit and never learned anything of the like.

slunken 02-08-2015 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noyen (Post 4152407)
anyone know much about the clone guitars and which knock offs are the best? i'm in the market for an electric guitar but my budget is only about 200 now. seen some tele knockoffs on ebay in the 300 range. would like something gretsch or jaguar in style though.

the squier "classic vibe" tele is an awesome guitar. you can get them used for dirt cheap (under 200) and it's easy to upgrade the pickups.

slunken 02-08-2015 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poots (Post 4152279)
I've always though I needed something like that too. I just use the 1Spot thing which works perfectly and only costs $20 or something, but for some reason I think I need to spend $200 on something that does exactly the same thing.

i run both into the front of the amp and into its stereo fx loop. it's an older amp too and i use a lot of effects with digital clocks. that said, the one spot was useless for me (i was able to successfully power about 1/3 of my board)

i was disappoint when i got there because while they are in stock at the warehouse they aren't in the actual store yet so they had to have it shipped. ugh.

slunken 02-08-2015 09:04 PM

i'm kind of in the market for another guitar as well. i want to find one of those danelectro reissues from the 90s with the really large necks. everytime one pops up on craigslist i sit on it and then it disappears. @$200

noyen 02-08-2015 09:17 PM

those kits do look fun. ive looked at lots of those but the time to put in before i can actually play it would be forever. i'd have to stop using the interwebs. but i think eventually i'll go for one of those kits because i do enjoy the woodworking/polish/finishing and all that stuff too.

slunken 02-08-2015 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4152440)
I'm anti branding too. Well what i mean is...there's so many people willing to pay ridiculous amounts of cash to get brand names when sometimes the difference is so slight in quality. Or they're not serious enough about music or play well enough that it should really make a difference (id probably have to ******* myself in those). I mean they don't realise that PART of the reason for the much higher price IS the brand name. Like a 800$ Gibson is rarely twice as good as a 400$ Epiphone. You have to factor the brand into the price. Personally ill play anything, any knockoff bullshit, if it sounds and plays alright to my ears. I don't care about the brand. But for some it's like, if it doesn't say fender or gibson they won't be seen with it...

its mostly idol emulation imo

slunken 02-08-2015 09:22 PM

my dream guitar right now is a gibson sg with a trem arm


slunken 02-08-2015 09:24 PM

in the pocket for sure

noyen 02-08-2015 09:33 PM

that is pretty hot. always loved the sg design and with a trem looks even more badass.

dreams of glass 02-08-2015 11:18 PM

My newest axe is a Mexican Strat, sort of powder blue I guess, not sure about the year. It needs to have the pickups yanked and the guts replaced, but it plays like a champ. I don't have an amp right now, so it's not really an issue.

I also have my Ibanez Gio Gax70 which I've had for years.

And my prize possession, my Takimine acoustic nylon string, which my Dad bought my Mom in 1973.
Thing sounds gorgeous.

I've had more guitars in my life, but they have all been sold or traded.

I don't have any pedals left either, but I used to have a Big Muff, a Crybaby Wah, and also a Phaser pedal, I forget which brand.

The exploding boy 02-08-2015 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunken (Post 4152454)
its mostly idol emulation imo

yup

The exploding boy 02-08-2015 11:30 PM

I had an Epiphone EB-3 bass as seen in one of those pics on the last page. I sold it. I mean it's a SG body on bass. It sucked. It had horrible neck dive because the neck is heavier than the body and i hear the SG is the same way. You need a good strap. For the bass id have needed a weighed strap actually. If you didn't hold it, the neck would hit the floor. But that wasn't my only issue with it.

I'm sure the SG is a fine sounding guiter otherwise as can be obviously heard on many records... but yeah, unbalancedtoo apparently.

I used to be into Gibson basses look wise then i learned that basically, neck dive is a thing with the vast majority of their basses and a few of their guitars. It's like a defining feature of a gibson i guess...

Sonic Johnny 02-09-2015 02:30 AM

Every Epiphone I've ever played was guilty of having a ginormous clumsy neck.

dreams of glass 02-09-2015 02:36 AM

Guys, I'm not kidding I had a mini flying V when I was a kid.

I so wish I still had that thing.

The exploding boy 02-09-2015 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny (Post 4152545)
Every Epiphone I've ever played was guilty of having a ginormous clumsy neck.

Weird because actually, the Epi bass i sold had one good thing about it, its neck (i mean too heavy yeah but otherwise). It was very comfortable. I hated the tone but its just because it' supposed to sound like a late 60's bass. Muddy as shit.

Mals Marola 02-09-2015 04:02 AM

i got an epiphone from my cousin a while back & the only thing wrong with it was the loose tuning pegs, great-soundin guitar

my main one's a strat, gotta get that damn nut fixed though after a guy i took it to tried setting it up like an LG or something - that's not the stratty way! feels like paper now

bobliefeld 02-09-2015 06:23 AM

Last month I treated my self to an ESP LTD ec1000vb. It's got active EMG pickups. Bought it because it's pretty. Actually it's really lovely, such a nice & easy guitar to play.

EMGs have a bit of a bad rep though.."no character". and my amp is a 5150 which isn't great for cleans. For heavy stuff it's amazing but clean, especially the bridge pickup, it can sound really strange almost like a synth.

teh b0lly!!1 02-09-2015 12:31 PM

hey a gear thread!

teh b0lly!!1 02-09-2015 12:32 PM

i just traded a 7 string reminder of my metal days for an epiphone es 335
got a classic '57 at the bridge. it's surprisingly good


teh b0lly!!1 02-09-2015 12:34 PM

fuck you for that beautiful gretsch teb i want a gretsch so bad

teh b0lly!!1 02-09-2015 12:34 PM

my most cherished guitar is actually a 87 SG that i want to put a bigsby on

slunken have you had any experience with vibramate

slunken 02-09-2015 06:20 PM

no i don't know much about wang bars, only historical info.

i mentioned before i really want an sg with trem. i would accept either a danelectro reissue (with the the wide neck - sounds more like a les paul) or an off-brand 70s japanese model would be ideal. as long as it has a bar.

slunken 02-09-2015 06:27 PM

sg's are too expensive and 70s supermarket guitars are unreliable i'll probably just try to get danelectro. if you really like a les paul sounding guitar that has amazing pick response (chime, twang, growl) those 90s reissues can't be beat for the money. like $250 top dollar. i like them because they have thick necks like a hollowbody and the body is nice and weighty too for deep sustain. amazing sound.

The exploding boy 02-09-2015 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1 (Post 4152754)
fuck you for that beautiful gretsch teb i want a gretsch so bad

the worst is i barely use it. I haven't in many months now anyway. It's not quite the sound i'd like, but since it's inherited, i'm never selling it. I will find a use for it yet at some point anyway.

slunken 02-09-2015 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The exploding boy (Post 4152973)
the worst is i barely use it. I haven't in many months now anyway. It's not quite the sound i'd like, but since it's inherited, i'm never selling it. I will find a use for it yet at some point anyway.

do you find that, even if you've cleaned it after you last played it, that it oxidizes in the case? i would pull mine out after even a few weeks and the whole fucking thing would be wrecked. oxidized chrome. gross strings.

maybe it was just me. i sweat a LOT when i play. it was like driving a classic caddy through the mud.

teh b0lly!!1 02-10-2015 03:10 AM

perhaps it's a humidity situation?
it's pretty dry where i live so i don't get that

teh b0lly!!1 02-10-2015 03:10 AM

try wiping off the strings and make sure the guitar doesn't lie there for a few weeks with wrecked strings


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