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Tchocky 05-12-2008 07:11 PM

McCain picks Sarah Palin as VP
 
IMO, Charlie Crist would be a superb choice. Like McCain, he's a moderate Republican and has had high approval ratings while serving as governor of Florida, and his inclusion would almost certainly mean Florida's 25 electoral votes would be red ones. The only real problem is, like McCain himself, Crist might not be "right" enough for the neo-cons. If McCain wants to pull in social conservatives, Huckabee would be an excellent choice (though he's probably too fiscally liberal for the right-wing's hardliners). I doubt McCain would like Steve King of Iowa, but he'd probably be the best choice in terms of pleasing the conservative voters that McCain himself risks alienating.

Soooo.....?

ravenguy2000 05-12-2008 09:31 PM

The other problem with Crist is that he's sexually attracted to men.

Its4thAndGoal 05-13-2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000 (Post 3252904)
The other problem with Crist is that he's sexually attracted to men.

That would come out the day after he was picked.

He needs Huckabee.

M.Night 05-13-2008 09:42 AM

he must lose
or usa will be a 100 years in iraq

Nimrod's Son 05-13-2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Night (Post 3253084)
he must lose
or usa will be a 100 years in iraq

Ok this is obviously a troll

Eulogy 05-13-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son (Post 3253198)
Ok this is obviously a troll

he insists that courtney murdered kurt too

sppunk 05-13-2008 04:21 PM

Tom Ridge.

Nimrod's Son 05-13-2008 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3253383)
he insists that courtney murdered kurt too

that's plausible, it's not like there wasn't any testimony to support that

commando 05-13-2008 05:03 PM

Huckabee on the ticket would convert the entire mountain west region into swing states.

Tchocky 05-13-2008 05:53 PM

That's pretty absurd. The social conservatives that don't trust McCain love Huckabee. Him being on the ticket wouldn't be a horrid move on McCain's part, but regardless he wouldn't be the best choice for McCain due to his fiscal policies being fairly liberal, which makes the neo-cons none too excited about Huckabee.

161733 05-13-2008 06:00 PM

The thing about Huckabee is that for whatever portion of social conservatives he brings along, McCain will likely lose the same in moderate independents.

Debaser 05-13-2008 06:11 PM

Hillary Clinton

M.Night 05-13-2008 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son (Post 3253198)
Ok this is obviously a troll

your mama is a troll asshole
vote mcain is like voting for bush again ....
and americans are stupid enough to do that for the third time in
a row

commando 05-13-2008 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 3253504)
That's pretty absurd. The social conservatives that don't trust McCain love Huckabee. Him being on the ticket wouldn't be a horrid move on McCain's part, but regardless he wouldn't be the best choice for McCain due to his fiscal policies being fairly liberal, which makes the neo-cons none too excited about Huckabee.

Except Mormons. If there's anyone more anti-mormon than McCain's mother, it's Huckabee. And like it or not, that's your conservative base in the Mountain West. Every mormon republican I've talked to will vote Democratic. If Huck's on the ticket in November.

Gish08 05-14-2008 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk (Post 3253388)
Tom Ridge.

:rofl:

JokeyLoki 05-14-2008 08:27 AM

Bobby Jindal.

Fritter 05-14-2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commando (Post 3253814)
Except Mormons. If there's anyone more anti-mormon than McCain's mother, it's Huckabee. And like it or not, that's your conservative base in the Mountain West. Every mormon republican I've talked to will vote Democratic. If Huck's on the ticket in November.

Yeah, he wouldn't want to lose the influential Mormon vote :rolleyes:.

Future Boy 05-14-2008 05:43 PM

Romney or the Huckster. Or that Hutchinson lady. At least I think thats her name.

Nimrod's Son 05-14-2008 06:12 PM

Rudy is still a possibility, regardless of how poorly he fared in the elections

Nimrod's Son 05-14-2008 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Night (Post 3253810)
your mama is a troll asshole
vote mcain is like voting for bush again ....
and americans are stupid enough to do that for the third time in
a row

I'm no McCain fan and I'm certainly no Bush fan, but don't buy into the propaganda that they're at all "the same."

SlingeroGuitaro 05-14-2008 06:25 PM

http://www.gambling911.com/Condoleezza%20Rice.jpg
http://www.peteykins.com/sparklepics3/Condi011707a.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/4...0a381121_o.jpg

commando 05-14-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritter (Post 3253961)
Yeah, he wouldn't want to lose the influential Mormon vote :rolleyes:.

*ahem* Huckabee on the ticket would turn the entire Mountain West region into swing states.

Pay attention, dumbass.

Fritter 05-14-2008 08:24 PM

Oh i'm sorry, i thought i quoted the post were you agreed with someone refuting you original claims and then said that he'd lose the Mormon vote (oh noes).

commando 05-14-2008 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritter (Post 3254349)
Oh i'm sorry, i thought i quoted the post were you agreed with someone refuting you original claims and then said that he'd lose the Mormon vote (oh noes).

Also, I'm not sure you should be in this conversation if you can't speak English.

Gish08 06-05-2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JokeyLoki (Post 3253954)
Bobby Jindal.

Fuck this guy.

Tchocky 06-06-2008 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gish08 (Post 3266990)
Fuck this guy.

The social conservatives would love having Jindal on the ticket.

Sam Brownback is another option for McCain...though I think he's a bit too much of a McCain clone for the neo-cons.

Gish08 06-06-2008 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 3267009)
The social conservatives would love having Jindal on the ticket.

Sam Brownback is another option for McCain...though I think he's a bit too much of a McCain clone for the neo-cons.

His last name is Jindal. The Republican party is filled with racists, bigots and rednecks. Jindal on the ticket would probably hurt McCain.

Tchocky 06-06-2008 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gish08 (Post 3267017)
His last name is Jindal. The Republican party is filled with racists, bigots and rednecks. Jindal on the ticket would probably hurt McCain.

And I'm sure that those same said racists, bigots and rednecks would rather have a white guy as president than some liberal nigger, dude.

I'm sure the social conservatives would love Jindal. He's 100% pro-life, anti-embryonic stem cell research, and I think he's anti-gay marriage.

Gish08 06-06-2008 12:49 AM

So it basically contradicts McCain's "maverick" stance which would excite much of the GOP, but lose many independent and even some moderate Republican voters. He would scare the crap out of those people.

Tchocky 06-06-2008 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gish08 (Post 3267048)
So it basically contradicts McCain's "maverick" stance which would excite much of the GOP, but lose many independent and even some moderate Republican voters. He would scare the crap out of those people.

So in other words, McCain should all but completely abandon the core of his party in favor of a few independents and swing voters, at least half of whom will probably wind up voting for Obama?

If McCain is going to win this election, he needs at least most of the social conservatives and the neo-cons on board. That's why he needs a VP that is a bit more hawkish than he is. I'm not saying it's going to be easy for him. Teeter too far right and he'll appear to be little more than a Bush redux. Teeter too far to center and he risks alienating the core of his potential voter base. He's an established moderate. That should be enough to scare up some independents and swing voters. A guy like Jindal would give him a boost at least among social conservatives that currently don't trust McCain. Remember, the social conservatives re-elected Bush in 2004.

Like it or not, McCain needs at least part of the social and far-right on board for his campaign to be a success. And he can't appeal to them alone.


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