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Bobbin TB 10-12-2007 12:43 AM

B-sides Compilation poll
 
Ok so there is ultra rare trax but it is mp3 sourced. not only that but outdated. i dont have everything but i got a few cd with rarities and b-sides. my question is how much interest would there be if i got everything together and kind of revamped a collection? kind of like the official sp b-side catalog but lossless and without all the fluff. prolly around 2-3 cds. and i would probably need help getting more sources for the songs.

sh sh shayne 10-12-2007 02:08 AM

oh i voted yes, but when i saw it was lossless i take it back. Sorry just don't hear the diff expeically with my tiny hd

Rider 10-12-2007 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh sh shayne
oh i voted yes, but when i saw it was lossless i take it back. Sorry just don't hear the diff expeically with my tiny hd


Wow, you do realize that you can convert them yourself, and even if you didn't want to a half hour after it's out someone will do it for you.

Brute Squad 10-12-2007 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh sh shayne
oh i voted yes, but when i saw it was lossless i take it back. Sorry just don't hear the diff expeically with my tiny hd

You shouldn't complain about having a tiny hd these days.

I bought a Seagate 500GB SATA/300 drive for $119 last week at Circuit City.

Skradgee 10-12-2007 09:31 AM

s'ok to complain if you're out of room on your IDE cable though.

man, I really need to buy a new PC.

Brute Squad 10-12-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skradgee
s'ok to complain if you're out of room on your IDE cable though.

man, I really need to buy a new PC.

Build one! It's cheaper!


Also, if you guys need any contributions, let me know. I still have the Smashing Pumpkins Vinyl Collection(SPVC) from years ago. Probably the best sources for vinyl that I've heard.

Skradgee 10-12-2007 09:45 AM

Isn't there a compilation that has all of the SP remixes? I remember seeing a tracklisting a couple years ago. Does anyone know what the deal is with that?

Bobbin TB 10-12-2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Fogelsong
Build one! It's cheaper!


Also, if you guys need any contributions, let me know. I still have the Smashing Pumpkins Vinyl Collection(SPVC) from years ago. Probably the best sources for vinyl that I've heard.

yea the vinyl stuff will be hard. i have the starseed vinyl rips but im still missing a few so if you can send it to me please do. right now im really working on the list of what to *******. i think ill make a few compilations, one with just remixes (perfect, 1979, teitbite, etc) that may it will look prettier than mixing them with the other stuff. maybe one of all side project stuff. not quite sure. but there are some things that are definite.

Brute Squad 10-12-2007 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbin TB
yea the vinyl stuff will be hard. i have the starseed vinyl rips but im still missing a few so if you can send it to me please do. right now im really working on the list of what to *******. i think ill make a few compilations, one with just remixes (perfect, 1979, teitbite, etc) that may it will look prettier than mixing them with the other stuff. maybe one of all side project stuff. not quite sure. but there are some things that are definite.

I'll have to rip that this weekend. You comfortable with downloading from an ftp?

Cool As Ice Cream 10-12-2007 10:31 AM

can i get it too?

deadaswarhol 10-12-2007 10:33 AM

i just recently made a data cd of all the raritites etc. stuff i had. ended up being like 119 songs or something i think

Cool As Ice Cream 10-12-2007 10:35 AM

i think i have 99% of the stuff that was released on cd. so i don't really need a compilation like this, except for the vinyl stuff maybe. (i have the vinyls too, but not the transfers to cd.)
but i don't mind helping you out if you need something.

Bobbin TB 10-12-2007 11:18 AM

CAIC, do you have a list of the cds you have?

Cool As Ice Cream 10-12-2007 11:39 AM

i don't. but i could make one.

what kind of songs do you want to include?
everything that's not on the main releases? would you include b-sides that didn't make it on pisces iscariot, such as dancing in the moonlight, for example?
or would you use another rule to decide what to include and what not?

Bobbin TB 10-12-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream
i don't. but i could make one.

what kind of songs do you want to include?
everything that's not on the main releases? would you include b-sides that didn't make it on pisces iscariot, such as dancing in the moonlight, for example?
or would you use another rule to decide what to include and what not?

yea dancing in the moonlight is a big one. i still need to make a list but its mostly all the single b-sides plus compilation contributions (drown, jackie blue, etc.). but if you could get me a list id appreciate it.

Cool As Ice Cream 10-12-2007 12:23 PM

some smashing pumpkins releases that could be of interest:
lull(slunk/bye june)
peel sessions (siva/smiley)
cherub rock (that karaoke thingy)
today japan (apathy's last kiss)
disarm (dancing in the moonlight)
rocket (never let me down)
1979 mixes (vocal mix/instrumental mix/moby mix/cement mix)
teitbite (the end.../the beginning.../the ethers tragic/the guns of love disastrous)
teitbite the remixes (5 diff. remixes)
teitbite fluke remixes promo (1 additional remix)
ava adore (once in a while/czarina)
perfect (summer/daphne descends kerry b mix)
perfect (5 diff. remixes)
siyl (speed kills)
still becoming apart(hope/mayonaise acoustic/apathy's last kiss)
untitled (try alt./age of i early)
tarantula (death from above/zeitgeist)
that's the way (daydream/stellar)

other stuff:
light into dark (my dahlia/sun)
absolute middle of nowhere (i am one 7" version)
20 explosive... (jackie blue)
singles soundtrack (drown)
no alternative (glynis)
family christmas in your ass: kevin and bean (rudolph the red-nosed reindeer)
onxrt: live from the archives vol 3 (rocket live)
sweet relief II (sad peter pan)
a very special christmas vol 3 (christmastime)
guitars that rule the world vol 2: smell the fuzz (ascendo)
ransom soundtrack (rats, worms, spiders, lizards, worms pt 2, squirrels with tails)
means to an end (starchildren-isolation)
iommi (black oblivion)
new order - get ready (turn my way)
some brazilian promo cd (teitbite nu-wave batcave remix)
launch cd-rom (bullet live)

also:
live in chicago 23.10.95
live at cabaret metro 10-5-88

i probably forgot some.

edit: add live x vol 6 (age of innocence live) to the list.

T&T 10-12-2007 12:30 PM

a top quality vinyl transfer of the albums would be an awesome contribution also...

MisterSquishyHalo 10-12-2007 12:34 PM

you mean taking all the rarities/bsides and sticking them on one giant zip file? yeah I'd be down for that.

Vanity Must Die 10-12-2007 12:44 PM

I have the extensive vinyl collection that collectspumpkins made a few years back. Think it's five discs of stuff, but I'm not sure if I have any more than three.

Dunno the tracklisting either.

Vanity Must Die 10-12-2007 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanity Must Die
I have the extensive vinyl collection that collectspumpkins made a few years back. Think it's five discs of stuff, but I'm not sure if I have any more than three.

Dunno the tracklisting either.

and then i realised by 'a few years back' i meant seven years ago.

wow.

time fucking flies, eh?

IIIStarchildIII 10-12-2007 12:50 PM

I'm jumping in here. I am currently in the process of reorganizing my collection and I really like this idea....

What about:

Stigmata Sound Track:
7. Identify - Natalie Imbrugla
8. Identify (Dust)/1,000,000 Voice
9. Pop Pop/Await/Reflect (Pretty)
10. Reflect (Clouds)/Truth Listen
11. Of Square Waves/Random Thought
12. Reflection/Possession
13. Reflect (Gray)/Of Sine Waves
14. Distrbnce (After Sckhausen)/Reflect (Pause)/Orah
15. Sustain/Identify (Affectation)
16. All Answers Revealed/Reflect (Devotion)
17. Purge/10,000,000 Voices/Reflect (Purity)/Identify (Peace)
18. Reflect (Time)/Tree Whispers

And from:

Troublizing (Ric Ocasek):
The Next Right Moment - BC Guitars - Matt Walker Drums - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
Crashland Consequence - BC Keyboard, Vocals and Production - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
Situation - BC Guitar and Production - Matt Walker Drums - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
Fix On You - BC Guitars and Production - Matt Walker Drums - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals
People We Know - BC Guitars, Keyboard,Vocals and Production - Matt Walker Drums
Asia Minor - BC Guitar,Vocals and Production - Melissa Auf der Maur Bass, Vocals


If I think of any others, I will chime in again

-Star

CrabbMan 10-12-2007 02:42 PM

I recall trying to download SPVC over dial-up. . . never did finish getting it, so I'd love to get another chance at that.

And the b-sides compilation would be cool; very cool. I mean, sure, I've got them in mp3 format, and have most of the tracks on the actual singles, but that's all up in a box in my closet. so yeah, way cool to have lossless copy available on my hard drive.
Honestly I'm not so interested in the remixes or the tracks where Billy is just a special guest, but I suppose if all tracks would be available for download separately we might as well just go for broke.

In general I'm not for the sharing of lossless material, but I'm not gonna go and buy 20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions just for the 1 kick-ass track.

MisterSquishyHalo 10-12-2007 04:19 PM

I'd give my left nut if billy re-recorded many of his older demos.

redbull 10-12-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSquishyHalo
I'd give my left nut if billy re-recorded many of his older demos.

yeah, jennifer ever will be great with the thousand b0lly chorus overdubed :erm:

Skradgee 10-12-2007 04:51 PM

I'll keep my left nut kthxbi

Cool As Ice Cream 10-12-2007 04:58 PM

i agree that the side stuff such as stigmata or new order shouldn't be added to the compilation. once you start adding those, it becomes endless.
the remixes would also make the compilation hard to digest.

i don't know about the ransom tracks. it wasn't released under the name of the pumpkins, but they used to play some of these live.

sh sh shayne 10-12-2007 05:14 PM

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/All-of-T...5fb1c693480b5b


what is the baker demos?
untroo alert or what?

T&T 10-12-2007 05:18 PM

just make a pile of as much of it as possible
let people pick and choose what they want...
my Compilation of Miscleanous songs is I have looks like this:

Quote:

1989 - My Dahlia [Light into Dark]
1989 - Sun [Light into Dark]
1991 - Jackie Blue [20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions]
1993 - Drown (un-cut) [Singles OST]
1993 - Glynis [No Alternative]
1994 - Never Let Me Down Again [Depeche Mode Comp]
1994 - Spaceboy [NME Magazine Tape]
1995 - Infinite Sadness [Mellon Collie Vinyl]
1995 - Pumpkin [Tricky sample]
1995 - Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer [No Toys For O.J.]
1996 - Ascendo [The Guitars That Rule The World]
1996 - Eye [Lost Highway OST]
1996 - Sad Peter Pan [Sweet Relief II]
1997 - Christmastime [A Very Special Christmas 3]
1997 - Space jam [1997-01-08]
1998 - When I Was Born I Was Bored [Shudder to Think]
2000 - Hope [Still Becoming Apart]
2000 - Mayonaise (Acoustic) [Still Becoming Apart]
2005 - Tilt [Billy Corgan - The Red Room Vol. 04]

Cool As Ice Cream 10-12-2007 05:22 PM

dunno.

MisterSquishyHalo 10-12-2007 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbull
yeah, jennifer ever will be great with the thousand b0lly chorus overdubed :erm:


need a new producer :)

Rider 10-12-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skradgee
s'ok to complain if you're out of room on your IDE cable though.

man, I really need to buy a new PC.

Buy a 10$ ide controller card.

slunken 10-12-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh sh shayne
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/All-of-T...5fb1c693480b5b


what is the baker demos?
untroo alert or what?


roy thomas baker demos? SRSLY?

T&T 10-12-2007 06:37 PM

i think those are the leaks by the band that tried to pass themselves off as SP back in '06

edit:
http://www.spin.com/features/everybo...shingpumpkins/

the torrent has the same fake song titles
"Collapsing Cities," "In the Eyes Beholding," "The Restless World," and "Siam Mais"

marrs-guitar 10-12-2007 07:04 PM

i made one of these a few years ago - a compilation for 'normal' songs, a separate one for remixes:

everything that was released in the sp name but not on the studio albums or TAFH, earphoria, GH/judas0

SP Collected
CD1
My Dahlia [Light Into Dark comp 04/89]
Sun [Light Into Dark comp 04/89]
I Am One [Ltd Potential 7" single 04/90]
Not Worth Asking [I Am One 7" bside 04/90]
Tristessa [Sub Pop single 12/90]
Honeyspider [Tristessa 12" bside 12/90]
Slunk [Lull EP 11/91]
Bye June [Lull EP 11/91]
Jackie Blue [20 Explosive Dynamic Super Smash Hit Explosions! xx/91]
Daughter [Reflex flexi 7" 04/92]
Siva (Peel version) [Peel Sessions CD 06/92]
Smiley [Peel Sessions CD 06/92]
Drown (full version) [Singles sdtk 06/92]
Bullet Train To Osaka [I Am One 10" bside 08/92]
Terrapin [I Am One 10" bside 08/92]
Purr Snickety [Cherub Rock 7" bside 07/93]
Star Spangled Banner [Cherub Rock 12"/CD unlisted bside 07/93]
Apathy's Last Kiss [Today 7" bside 09/93]
Glynis [No Alternative comp 11/93]
Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer [No Toys For OJ comp xx/93]
Spaceboy (acoustic) [NME Brat Pack comp 01/94]

CD2
phone message [The Absolute Middle Of Nowhere #17 comp unlisted track xx/94]
Siamese Dream [Disarm 7" bside 03/94]
Dancing In The Moonlight [Disarm 12"/CD bside 03/94]
Honeyspider II [Pisces Iscariot bonus 7" 10/94]
Never Let Me Down [Rocket bside 12/94]
Infinite Sadness [MCIS Japanese Bonus track 10/95]
Rocket (acoustic) [OnXRT Live From The Archives 3 comp 04/96]
Sad Peter Pan [Sweet Relief II comp 08/96]
The End Is The Beginning Is The End [CD single 06/97]
The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning [TEITBITE bside 06/97]
The Ethers Tragic [TEITBITE bside 06/97]
The Guns Of Love Disastrous [TEITBITE bside 06/97]
Christmastime [A Very Special Christmas 3 xx/97]
Czarina [Ava Adore bside 05/98]
Once In A While [Ava Adore bside 05/98]
Summer [Perfect bside 09/98]
Mayonaise (acoustic) [1991-1998 promo 12/99]
Speed Kills [Stand Inside Your Love bside 02/00]
Hope [Still Becoming Apart promo 02/00]
Try [Untitled bside xx/01]
Age Of I (early) [Untitled bside xx/01]

---------------
SP Remixes Collected

CD1
1979 Vocal Mix
1979 Instrumental Mix
1979 Moby Mix
1979 Cement Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Vox Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Alt Mix
TEITBITE Stuck In The Middle With Fluke Instrumental Mix
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & the Infinite Madness Mix
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Infinite Radio Edit
TEITBITE Rabbit In The Moon's Melancholy & the Infinite Dub
TEITBITE Hallucination's Gotham Ghetto Beats
TEITBITE Hallucination's Nu-Wave Batcave Mix

CD2
Daphne Descends (Kerry B Mix)
Perfect Nellee Hooper Mix
Perfect Nellee Hooper Instrumental
Perfect Perfecto Mix
Perfect Perfecto Dub
Perfect Electro Breakbeat Mix
Perfect Electro Breakbeat Dub
BONUS TRACKS:
Perfect Puff Daddy MP Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Vocal Up Mix
Perfect Puff Daddy Instrumental Mix

Bobbin TB 10-12-2007 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream
i agree that the side stuff such as stigmata or new order shouldn't be added to the compilation. once you start adding those, it becomes endless.
the remixes would also make the compilation hard to digest.

i don't know about the ransom tracks. it wasn't released under the name of the pumpkins, but they used to play some of these live.

yea i agree. the side project and remix stuff would just ruin the flow. especially when there are like 7 remixes or the same song in a row. what ill do is end up putting all that stuff in a seperate collection. probably have a b-sdies collection, remix collection, and side project collection.

yoshinobu's revenge 10-12-2007 09:30 PM

Sure I'd be interested if it was all lossless. I have nearly a lot of these tracks aside from the vinyls but I've never bothered ripping it all.

I'd really be most interested in SPVC tho. I only have a few mp3s sourced from it I downloaded back in the day.

Cool As Ice Cream 10-13-2007 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marrs-guitar
Infinite Sadness [MCIS Japanese Bonus track 10/95]

i learn something new every day.

anyway, that compilation looks a lot like what we're going for, i guess.
some songs can be upgraded with a cd sourced version. and we could add age of i (acoustic) to the list. and maybe bullet (live). or, if someone has that promo acetate cd, ava adore (live) too.

marrs-guitar 10-13-2007 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream
some songs can be upgraded with a cd sourced version. and we could add age of i (acoustic) to the list. and maybe bullet (live). or, if someone has that promo acetate cd, ava adore (live) too.

oh actually it's mostly all cd sourced, i just put 7" to indicate their original release format (actually i realise a couple are from itunes)

technically, age of innocence was released as 'billy corgan' too

slunken 10-13-2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T&T
i think those are the leaks by the band that tried to pass themselves off as SP back in '06

edit:
http://www.spin.com/features/everybo...shingpumpkins/

the torrent has the same fake song titles
"Collapsing Cities," "In the Eyes Beholding," "The Restless World," and "Siam Mais"


oh yea i forgot about those fake title "leaks"...damn i got excited again...




...damn



...damn :(

Brute Squad 10-14-2007 01:50 PM

Now seeding:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3842138


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