No one gives a shit a this point but I feel a bit bad about what I said about reprise because it turns out she only responded like cool headed and rationally and even with compassion in some cases when I thought she was probably just batshit insane. That always throws me off you know. You go and be a dick to someone and they won't respond in kind? Then you're like" wow I guess i'm just a dick". Not that I didn't know already. Or maybe she's just so depressed she can't give a shit enough to get defensive.
Though I still think people shouldn't talk about their depression so much and wallow in it. Some people it's like "omg i'm so depressed. I suffer from depression you know and this defines my whole identity. Yeah i'm depressed. So don't give a shit about anything right now, thought i'd let everyone know." They're in love with their depression (didn't someone quote i'm in love with my sadness already?) Thing is no one gives a fuck outside of you. You're always ever alone. Even the people who love you will only give a fuck for so long when you die. All I know is I used to wallow in my misery and write about it extensively. It only made me hate myself more. Most people expect there will be some magical even that will lift them out of their depression. Someone or something or some drug. None of that will. Or only for so long. At some point you do just need to get proactive no matter how down in the dumps you are. Even when you're so down you feel like you can't even put one foot in front of another. That's still al you can do. Cause no amount of therapy in the world is gonna fix you unless you do something for yourself. And if you can't or are not willing to or if you truly believe that nothing anywhere could ever make you happier, then yeah at some point maybe you are better off dead. there are cases when people just are. I believe that. Death sometimes is the answer. It's just not very PC to say it. But I don't believe in the sanctity of life that much. Starting with my own. |
am I the only one that sometimes sees the posts all fucked up in the corner? Maybe its my browser
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The fact is...when it comes to depression, I mean I GET that it's a vicious cycle you know, you need to do something about your life but you can't because you're so depressed about it, but regardless, there is nothing else you CAN truly do. It might just be my personal experience but no one, no drug or no therapy nothing is gonna save me. At some point you need to just shut the fuck up and kill yourself or actually do something. Or just..shut the fuck up and accept your depression anyway and the fact that you will never do anything worthwhile with your life (i'm kinda between that and doing something...I alternate...I do something to help my life then think why the fuck do I care it's never gonna amount to anything). I'm curious here has anyone ever had therapy that worked and what was the approach? The shrink I saw a few years ago basically realized that I knew all that was wrong with me and that she couldn't help me because she could only suggest for me to do things that I had no intention of doing. All therapy only works if you do something to help yourself. So yeah, you need to in fact shut the fuck up and do something. And like I said if you can't because your life situation won't allow you, then probably death is the option for you. It's not a big deal. Not everyone is cut out for this thing, or some have been dealt such a shit hand that's all they can logically do. |
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ariel you need to learn so self edit or at least break your shit up into more paragraphs.
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hnibos: my boyfriend hit me because i cheated on him vixnix: well this is all your fault because you cheated on him really, vixnix should just stay out of threads like this because if she can't learn to avoid projecting her self-hatred onto others, her contributions will make things worse. |
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After I dumped my old therapist, I found one online who specializes in PTSD and dissociative disorders. She is psychodynamic as well, but really our therapy hinges a lot on unconditional positive regard. I like her as a person, and we are alike enough that we speak the same metaphorical language. She isn't "strictly" anything, but incorporates psychodynamic, CBT, DBT, and EMDR, plus other dissociative disorder therapy which I'm not sure has a formal name. I've been seeing her for three years, and I am only just now ready to actually do some serious trauma processing - the first priority (besides getting me to not be suicidal and stop self harming (burning myself) was to be well enough to be able to work and take care of my own money and stuff. It was only about two years ago that I started having control of my own money; I was approved for disability in 2009 (on my first try, which is almost unheard of, esp for a 23 year old), but was not allowed to handle my own finances. So in early 2012 I petitioned to get that right back, and did get it back. In Sept 2012 I got a job, in Oct 2013 I went back to school and took one class, this semester I took 3 classes and worked 25-30 hrs/wk. Even though I was still suicidal and self harming for years after I started therapy, my cognitive processes were becoming more clear to me and my thought processes got healthier before my behavior did. Oh, I'm also a drug addict, and though I've used drugs maybe 5 times in the past 3 years, I'm not addicted anymore and don't really have cravings. Also stopped smoking cigs about 2 1/2 years ago. TL;DR first was group CBT/art therapy (which is basically psychodynamic), then heavy medication management and some more CBT and psychodynamic, then an awesome mix of things that doesn't have a name really but hinges greatly on the client/therapist relationship (and unconditional positive regard) while staying on meds and slowly getting off of them. the closest thing I could call it that's a sort-of legitimate type of therapy is 'eclectic' I basically think I first learned what was happening to me, then I got on meds which eventually helped my depression, then I was well enough (though still very sick) to learn how to help my PTSD and be able to function in the world without having flashbacks and even while having bad dissociative symptoms that are very intrusive (that I still have and my always have). Like, I couldn't be around children ever because they made me have flashbacks. etc. It was bad. Therapy has definitely helped me. But you need a good doctor. I've been sing my therapist for right at 3 years and my psychiatrist for about 6 |
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i realize that is a gross oversimplification of the content of the thread, but she more or less engaged in victim blaming which is her M.O. whenever she solicits "advice" on this board.
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depression looks like reading kreatorkind's posts on the spotify thread on the sp forum
it just leads to nothing but despair |
i like how he expects me to argue with him
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The truth hurts so people hate it.
I don't mind being a troll. Somebody has to do it, might as well be me. |
My depression is managed by
Medication (lamotrigine & duloxetine) Monthly Sessions with: Psychiatrist Psychologist General practitioner Occupational therapy: Choir Softball Fulfilling part time job Being a mum So I know it isn't easy. I find it really hard. But that doesn't make it any less true that if you go out and help people, you'll feel better than you do now. It's worth a try. For a lot of reasons. |
this is sad, vixnix.
did you break up with your husband, is that why you're here trolling before i deleted you on facebook i seem to remember some paragraph long rant about how you couldn't do it anymore are you lonely is this how people with personality disorders reach out |
do we need to bump the thread where you confessed your real life to us so everyone can be reminded that you have issues and "being a mum" is not the cure all that you act like it is when you put on the trollface
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Erm no I don't think so...I'm pretty good at the moment. I don't do the I can't do this anymore posts at Facebook, I tend to do them here if anywhere.
I don't know why I'm here! I just am. I guess I am bored and spoiling for a fight. They're so easy to have around here. When was the last time you had a girlfriend? |
you need to grow up
i can't believe you raise children and yes, they look and sound like sheltered maladjusted dipshits and the real stories you've already told us that we haven't forgotten haven't convinced anyone they're not you're loser trash coming here to make fun of loser trash and make yourself feel better get the fuck out of here already |
^this is entering projection territory for you right hurrrr
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Isn't everybody here loser trash coming here to make fun of loser trash, that's par for the course
Being a mum is rill complex man. It isn't just one thing, like a problem or a solution. I can't believe I raise kids either. If they met you they'd most probably be kind to you and keep an open mind about you regardless of what your job is or how you look or speak. I'm actually pretty proud of that, and proud of them. They can be dipshits or whatever but if they 're not total assholes and they respect other people and try to be kind and considerate I'll still be proud that I had a big part in raising them. |
go away! nobody wants you here!
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I'm still mad that she called me a neck beard milady but I don't know if I feel like opening that up
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i wouldn't worry about it, she really just wants to make people feel as bad as she does. it's completely obvious but she thinks she's being clever. it's one of the saddest things i've ever seen.
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No I don't think that - I posted that stuff because I wanted to make it clear that I don't think you can just pull up your bootstraps, it takes a lot of different things for most people, to experience wellness
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Vixey - you say helpling others can add to feel better.
Do you think that you are helping anyone by "trolling" in this thread? And do you honestly believe this topic is a good place for trolling? If you answer both questios with no, then why are you doing it... I hope you're doing okay with your job, and you might want to consider the gym as an outlet instead of whatever it is that you are doing here. |
I do think I'm helping people in this thread by being honest about how I feel. I'm not trolling, really - just responding to everything else I see written, same as everyone else. I am actually going to the gym tonight though. Thanks for asking me the questions...hope you're going ok.
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If you look around at this world and you're not happy, congrats, you're not a zombie.
People are super obsessed with being happy. Gotta be happy, gotta be healthy, gotta smile all the time, gotta have social activities. Oh no! I might be unhappy, better get that checked out! But, Im not trying to say clinical depression isn't a real thing. It is, and it's serious like any other medical condition. |
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Also, when you are depressed enough, you literally cannot help others. You can't leave your house because you don't have any energy and/or are crippled by panic, etc. If you get lucky, therapy and/or medicine may make you well enough to be able to actually do things "for yourself" that will improve your mood. I put "for yourself" in quotes, because even trying therapy/meds is doing something for yourself. And yeah, helping people is doing something for them, but it's really doing something for yourself, because it makes you feel better. |
I mean, I'm glad your medicine and therapies are helping you, and imma let you finish, but my therapy and medicines are the best of ALL TIME
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I honestly think this shit shes saying is what vix hears all the time but it doesnt make her feel good so she goes to the internet to abuse and antagonize people.
There is not an instance in the history of the universe in which the troll is a happy, well adjusted mature individual |
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