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The exploding boy 03-09-2015 03:09 PM

Good idea.

teh b0lly!!1 03-10-2015 05:42 AM

teb you really seem to have no idea at all what you're doing

what you're describing can be an intonation issue, a frets issue. it's a goddamn squier of course its whack. don't be messing with the truss rod if you don't know what you're aiming for at least

Sonic Johnny 03-26-2015 06:52 PM

Anyone have one of those MCIS Tab books? Worth the $$? Like are the tabs more detailed than the stuff up on spfc.org? If the answer to all three of those questions is yes: does anyone wanna sell me a second-hand one?

reprise85 03-26-2015 07:12 PM

i used to have it. it was pretty great and much better than most of the online tabs. plus you get the sheet music of course.

Sonic Johnny 03-26-2015 07:24 PM

ahahahahaha sheet music, that's funny.

slunken 03-26-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny (Post 4171144)
Anyone have one of those MCIS Tab books? Worth the $$? Like are the tabs more detailed than the stuff up on spfc.org? If the answer to all three of those questions is yes: does anyone wanna sell me a second-hand one?

they're the most difficult to find out of the 3 (siamese dream, mcis, and adore). expect to pay $50+.

i mean not only do you get tabs of the songs but you get tabs for all the weird little background stuff and keyboard parts transposed for guitar and james' ebow stuff tabbed out its crazy

slunken 03-26-2015 07:31 PM

you can find pdf copies of both mcis and sd on torrent sites pretty easily if you want to do that - i remember just searching for guitar tab under pdf and it was in a pack with a bunch of other books

reprise85 03-26-2015 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny (Post 4171158)
ahahahahaha sheet music, that's funny.

it's nice to have it, say you want to play something on piano, you dont have to figure it out. i was never very good at figuring shit out on my own, so having the sheet music was very useful. or when i needed to show someone the rhythm of something. of course i had the songs memorized and didnt even have to worry about the rhythm or time signature or anything. but other people i played with needed it, and it was easier to start with it while learning the song.

but yeah you gotta be able to read it i suppose

slunken 03-28-2015 12:14 PM

spent this morning notating more sound banks on the boss sl-20 slicer (there are 80). i'm determined to understand this thing.

The exploding boy 03-28-2015 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1 (Post 4165207)
teb you really seem to have no idea at all what you're doing

what you're describing can be an intonation issue, a frets issue. it's a goddamn squier of course its whack. don't be messing with the truss rod if you don't know what you're aiming for at least

I hadn't seen this then but i'm not a moron. FOor one i had messed with truss rods before just a long time ago. And I didn't go turning that truss rod willy nilly. I know you can break your neck and i really can't afford to lose any guitar. And I research shit before i do it if i'm not 100% sure. I did daily quarter turns for 3 days. Clearly it had to be done either way as there was pretty much no spacing between the string and frets when i pressed the first and last. I messed with the bridge now, i got it closer to being in tune the whole length of the neck but not quite. i'm hoping at this point the weather change will bring it back to normal.

teh b0lly!!1 03-29-2015 02:25 AM

that's cool, reading back i sounded like an asshole. didn't mean it.
it's just all very delicate and you need to know exactly what you're doing and why you're doing it. at least in my experience - you won't get a great setup on a guitar by just experimenting.
print out some measurements, work with those.


Mals Marola 04-14-2015 09:09 AM

i'm probably going to be getting a fender tube amp of sorts, really soon

any tube-amp related advice over here? i know it's a bit more of a delicate operation & whatnot, but this one doesn't even have a standby switch or anything so... i don't want to just be blowin tubes & valves form day 1! only owned solid state up to this one (though at present i am still very much happy with my orange)

slunken 04-14-2015 11:49 AM

Of sorts...

This one...

Mals Marola 04-14-2015 01:19 PM



fender ramparte, 9w, cool & hot inputs

was really just askin about general tube amp care/maintenance since i've never owned one before, always solid state, and it doesn't have a standby switch
but i guess that would only really assist things, since it must have something built in that would handle it simultaneously
though if it's anything like the tube preamp i have it's pretty much just a turn on, wait a few minutes, let cool down after usage then turn off sort of thing

soniclovenoize 04-17-2015 01:51 PM



Rebuilt my board, swapped some pedals, etc.

Disco King 04-17-2015 03:12 PM

A while back, I picked up the Hardwire RV-7 reverb because it was the cheapest I could find with a reverse reverb function.

However, I realized that with the reverse reverb, only the wet signal comes out, and there's no dry signal. So, that means there is a delay from the time I strike a not to the time it sounds. Which is annoying as fuck for coordination, thinking "I have to play this not XXms before I actually wanna here it."

What's a cheap reverb with reverse reverb that isn't stupid like that?

slunken 04-17-2015 04:25 PM

Metal zone into the muff?

I sometimes run a blues driver after mine

soniclovenoize 04-17-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by slunken (Post 4179156)
Metal zone into the muff?

I sometimes run a blues driver after mine

Oh I rarely use those two together, it's one or the other (or the overdrive pedal preceding them)

soniclovenoize 04-17-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Disco King (Post 4179142)
A while back, I picked up the Hardwire RV-7 reverb because it was the cheapest I could find with a reverse reverb function.

However, I realized that with the reverse reverb, only the wet signal comes out, and there's no dry signal. So, that means there is a delay from the time I strike a not to the time it sounds. Which is annoying as fuck for coordination, thinking "I have to play this not XXms before I actually wanna here it."

What's a cheap reverb with reverse reverb that isn't stupid like that?



The other guitarist in two of my bands has a Line 6 Verbzilla. When he got it I totally made fun of him for having a Line 6 pedal... until I heard it. It's actually sounds great and I believe it does what you are looking for, and it's only $150 new.

slunken 04-18-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by soniclovenoize (Post 4179167)
Oh I rarely use those two together, it's one or the other (or the overdrive pedal preceding them)

i'm surprised - you can get a great pink floyd/gilmour sound using the two. surely you know of this combo? at best it adds a nice amount of bite back into the muddy muff sound.

the easiest way is to crank the muff and use the other distortion pedal (i like the blues driver) as an EQ/Tone/Volume control. or you can crank the distortion pedal and have the muff adding the appropriate amount of fuzz. endless possibilities in order

Disco King 05-23-2015 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by soniclovenoize (Post 4179168)


The other guitarist in two of my bands has a Line 6 Verbzilla. When he got it I totally made fun of him for having a Line 6 pedal... until I heard it. It's actually sounds great and I believe it does what you are looking for, and it's only $150 new.

I'll look into that. Thanks!

I've been eyeing Noisemaker Effects' pedals for a while now. They are the most inexpensive boutique brand I've ever seen, and they have some nice fuzzes. The problem is deciding which one.

Their pedals tend not to have tone knobs, so it seems like each one specializes in a tone, and then gives you volume and gain controls.

It's difficult for me to decide which one I want, because even though I can clearly hear that they are different, my ear isn't really trained well enough to really assess the timbre and deliberate what I really like and why. It's just sort of like, "Oh, this is cool. Wait, this is cool, too." Plus with the demos, it's hard to ignore the influence of the music being played on my perception on the sound and to just focus on tone. I wish there were a shootout video or something.

I'm thinking that the Crush and the Cold War seem fairly similar to a Muff, so I may as well get one of their more unique pedals. So I'm kind of leaning toward the Donner Party, which sounds pretty nasty, the Zero (which seems to give the user more tone control with all the knobs), and the Kill. The Freakshow is also really interesting, but the fact that it only has a level knob kind of makes it seem limited. Still, that one sound that it does is a pretty sick sound. Also, the Noise Invader and Arcade are cool.

What are your guy's recs?

http://www.noisemakereffects.com/pedals.html
http://www.cheaperpedals.com/collect...effects?page=1
https://soundcloud.com/noisemaker-effects/
(Just posting more than one link because it doesn't seem that their official site has all of them)

Disco King 05-25-2015 07:10 PM

For what it's worth, I ended up pulling the trigger on the Freakshow, the Donner Party, and the Loudmouth. I'm already planning my next purchase to be the Super Arcade, which I may get sometime after I round off my pedal board with things that aren't fuzzes.

slunken 05-25-2015 10:14 PM

IMO boutique pedals are only for boutique players.

i didn't hear anything in those samples that couldn't be achieved with a combination of big muff (any) with a tube screamer or blues driver.

Disco King 05-25-2015 11:53 PM

"Boutique player"? What's that mean?

I can see how a lot of the milder fuzzes (like the Crush) would be achievable with a Big Muff (though the Noisemaker ones sounded less muddy to me), but I've never gotten the sort of crazy breakup I was hearing in the Donner Party and Super Arcade demos out of the Tone Wicker Big Muff I had (not that that's a criticism of it; it was and will probably still be my favorite pedal). I guess I've never tried driving it with an overdrive, as I've never used one, though. So perhaps you're right (in which case, thanks a lot for giving me post-purchase remorse, buddy).

Too bad I don't still have my Muff to compare them with. I just thought I'd experiment with other fuzzes, because there is a small chance I may get my old Muff back (long story), so I didn't want to buy a duplicate. But if it turns out I won't, I'll definitely re-purchase one down the line. I like all the Noisemaker ones for what they are, but they seem to be on the more treble-ish side, whereas the Muff goes down to the apocalyptic firepits of doom.

soniclovenoize 05-26-2015 10:07 AM

They sound pretty good, I'd definitely pick one up. Big Muffs don't get that cool oscillation to them.

Also be sure to get a variable power source for whatever fuzz you get, to simulate a dying battery; you will get cooler results you wouldn't otherwise get with a constant power source.

Also I finally picked up a Fuzz Factory and I love it to death.

Disco King 05-26-2015 02:41 PM

Hmm. I've never heard about the "variable power source" thing. Sounds cool. I'll look into that!

Some of these pedals have a "starve" knob that does the dying battery thing (similar to the "stab" on the Fuzz Factory, I think). But the variable power source sounds like it'd be really cool to try with my Muff or something when I get it.

Congrats on the Fuzz Factory. From the demos I've heard, those things are really versatile and great. The sort of thing I'd buy if I weren't so cheap. I love how you can get sorta retro classic clean-gated fuzz and octavey oscillating glitchy sustaining fuzz in the same box. Thing is crazy.

I've been looking at some of Devi Ever's pedals, too. Probably not in my price range, but it's still fun to browse. One interesting one was the LP, that I assume uses variable power to get that "skipping record" sound.

soniclovenoize 05-27-2015 10:42 AM

Yep exactly, the Stab seems to control the power-in, so the Fuzz Factory pretty much has a built-in variable power supply.

Our guitarist had Devi's Disaster Fuzz, and it was very cool; it is worth mentioning that he did in fact get a variable power supply for it because it wasn't doing exactly what he wanted. So there you go.

He recently dropped it from his board for a Dwarfcraft Great Destroyer though, I'm not sure why. Both sounded great though. It probably just didn't gel well with the new Awkward Bodies songs, not sure.

The guitarist in a different band I'm in has a cool boutique fuzz that sounds fantastic. I don't remember what it is though, I'll check it out tonight at practice.

Disco King 06-07-2015 06:24 PM

Does anybody know what effects Iha used in his MCIS Pumpkins solos? Like in "Zero" and "Fuck You"? I'm thinking it's a Digitech Whammy in octave up mode or something, but just want to be sure.

I used to not be interested in getting a Whammy pedal, because I'm not big on pitch shifting. However, the cool shit that can be done with octave shifts is making me rethink that.


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