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i guess "metal" is number two on the list of redbre's biggest failures on his musical sojurn
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cliched probably, but this is in A# tuning. literally heavy.
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legalise drugs & murder
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actually this, from about the 3 minute mark
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and let's not forget our old friends
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Who cares what it sounds like, it's impressive! Its like gymnastics. not much to do with music. Unfortunately a lot of people (actually make that guys mainly) who ever pick up an instrument, especially guitar, have a pretty big ego (which is used to hide insecurity) and the worst that could happen is if someone called what they play easy. Hence shredding solos. |
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without sabbath there's not much for any of those bands to stand on
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sheer ignorance. none of those bands is heavier than black sabbath and also their music is not anywhere near as good or innovative
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for one thing neurosis is built on swans |
omg do you like swans i never would have guessed
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omg you've never listened to a swans record i never would have guessed
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YES IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT SABBATH PAVED THE WAY FOR HEAVY METAL BANDS
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so fucking what? what exactly is it that makes Sabbath 'heavier' than any of those tracks i posted?
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what makes those tracks heavier than sabbath? you were the one who wanted to challenge my assertion so the burden of proof is on you.
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actually don't I really don't care.
most heavy metal music is derivative/heavily influenced by sabbath though and I think that would be pretty difficult to argue with. another thing that hasn't really been brought up in this thread is that it's bullshit that "metal" gets a monopoly on the adjective heavy. there are plenty of heavy bands that aren't metal at all, but for some reason heavy is synonymous to many people with metal music. |
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"burden of proof" you reckon. well, lets take the Bardo Pond track as an example. 1). it's louder 2). there are 2 guitars 3). it has been recorded at a lower frequency, therefore making it sound heavier 4). Sabbath sounds tinny and watery in comparison am i missing anything? |
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but you can't use the recordings of a precursor band to simply say "THIS IS THE HEAVIEST SHIT EVER" simply because it came first, or whatever. using this argument - is Glenn Branca the most "experimental" guitarist ever? were Throbbing Gristle more "industrial" than Wolf Eyes ever were? |
WHO IS MORE METAL THAN WHO???? ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN
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though one could say that while TG "invented" industrial a band like wolf dudes was able to draw on 20+ additional years of other types of zonked sound therefore making them less industrial simply by the level of purity ??? |
that reminds me i need to re-download tg24 so i burn some cds for my car. long hazy drives to work in the morning with the sun coming up style.
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I saw Wolf Eyes play an insane set earlier this month. It was a festival type thing so it was great seeing all the people who had no idea who they were leave after like half a song. By the end of their set it was only like, me and possibly 15 or 20 people. It was a magical set, though.
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This has been in my rotation all week
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interestingly, the first known labeling of a band as "heavy metal"
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hands up who likes to deal with young children? not me.
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wilco is derivative of something from the 60s and 70s, probably the byrds or the yardbirds or whatever
he sounds like an old person with this "what does it matter, they were the original" shut up, grandpas. |
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