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wHATcOLOR 07-24-2019 03:27 PM

now i feel less alone. thanks foolofatook and myosis

MyKeyZ 07-25-2019 05:56 PM

A couple of years ago they reissued the first few Deftones albums remastered and some tracks even have extra elements not found on the original releases, but HOLY FUCK these remasters are terrible sounding! They're brickwalled and blasted out to shit and absolutely grating on the ears. I can't believe they fucked them up this bad. Just avoid them at all costs. I really hope they didn't replace the original masters with the remasters on streaming services. I wish they would just remove them altogether and just let the originals be or get someone who knows what they're doing to remaster them.

Mals Marola 07-25-2019 05:58 PM

not sure if i've heard those but, it's not like the originals were exactly quiet!

MyKeyZ 07-25-2019 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mals Marola (Post 4513867)
not sure if i've heard those but, it's not like the originals were exactly quiet!

Dude...
Just so you see that I am not crazy...

Here is "Elite" off White Pony

Original 16 bit master on top / 24 bit remaster on bottom


This is BEYOND brickwalled

MyKeyZ 07-25-2019 06:22 PM

and Minerva...

original 16 bit master on top
24 bit hi-res remaster on bottom



Yea, their albums were always loud, but you still saw the details in the waveform even at the loudest parts. With the remasters, they're all gone. It's just a solid blue brick. Disappointing.

Adrenaline, Around The Fur, White Pony, Deftones, Saturday Night Wrist, Diamond Eyes 24 bit hi-res remasters are all brickwalled.

Eulogy 07-26-2019 02:09 PM

I’m kinda glad I can’t recognize things like that lol

Eulogy 07-26-2019 04:01 PM

Listening to s/t on vinyl right now and I’d sort of forgotten what a beast of a song battle axe is. One of chino’s best vocal performances. Which is saying a lot.

Mals Marola 07-26-2019 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ (Post 4513868)
Dude...
Just so you see that I am not crazy...

Here is "Elite" off White Pony

This is BEYOND brickwalled

looke myke, i didn't doubt you -- i would never! was simply speaking my peace...

but yeah, are these the current masters on spotify etc or something? i didn't even know they existed

MyKeyZ 07-26-2019 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mals Marola (Post 4513981)
looke myke, i didn't doubt you -- i would never! was simply speaking my peace...

but yeah, are these the current masters on spotify etc or something? i didn't even know they existed


Sorry, I wasn't writing as you were doubting me. I was coming more from a lighthearted, two dudes smoking a joint, being like maaaaan, did you see this shit? Just two fans who like Deftones. So my bad.

These are 24 bit lossless remasters for sale as digital downloads, not from a streaming source. They were released around when Gore came out, I believe.

I don't know which masters they use for streaming services as I absolutely hate streaming services. I am all about 16/24 bit downloads or physical music. I hate, hate, HATE lossy compression and streaming services do some atrocious shit to audio quality.

MyKeyZ 07-26-2019 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 4513975)
I’m kinda glad I can’t recognize things like that lol

See, I believe you can. I believe many people can if they know what to look for. I've had many folks who were like, "I don't know, man. I don't hear a difference," but then I A/B some stuff and explain what to focus on and look for and they pick up on it. It's one of those moments, once you hear it, you can't unhear it. I know a few folk who converted to lossless and hunting specific masters after they picked up on what lossy compression and a blown out master does to music and how it can be fatiguing to the ears.

This was an eye opening video if you want to see what streaming services do to music...


MplsTaper 07-29-2019 04:37 PM



Deftones and Hum playing a show together...

ninsp 07-30-2019 10:05 AM

Deftones and Gojira in one show? Lord

Raskolnikov 07-31-2019 12:18 AM

Another golden cut here:


Mals Marola 07-31-2019 11:44 AM


Shallowed 08-06-2019 05:27 AM

I wish I had followed this band when I was in high school.

MplsTaper 02-11-2020 10:38 AM

Deftones
23 mins ·
North America, it’s been a minute… We’re coming through this summer with special guests, Gojira and Poppy, July 27 – September 5. Tickets available Friday, 2/14, at 1PM local: Deftones.com

July 27 – Portland, OR
July 28 – Seattle, WA
July 30 – San Francisco, CA
Aug 01 – Las Vegas, NV
Aug 02 – Los Angeles, CA
Aug 04 – Phoenix, AZ
Aug 05 – Albuquerque, NM
Aug 07 – Bonner Springs, KS
Aug 08 – Milwaukee, WI
Aug 09 – Minneapolis, MN
Aug 11 – Chicago, IL
Aug 12 – Sterling Heights, MI
Aug 14 – Boston, MA
Aug 15 – Laval, QC
Aug 17 – Toronto, ON
Aug 19 – New York, NY
Aug 20 – Asbury Park, NJ
Aug 22 – Philadelphia, PA
Aug 23 – Washington, DC
Aug 24 – Bridgeport, CT
Aug 26 – Pittsburgh, PA
Aug 27 – Indianapolis, IN
Aug 29 – Atlanta, GA
Aug 30 – Nashville, TN
Sep 01 – San Antonio, TX
Sep 02 – Houston, TX
Sep 03 – Irving, TX
Sep 05 – Denver, CO

Eulogy 02-11-2020 01:18 PM

I cannot believe how much these tickets are. $25 fee?! Haven’t seen them
In a headline spot since 2006 though so I bit the bullet : (

MplsTaper 02-11-2020 01:36 PM

Eulogy where are you seeing $25 fees? Ticketbastard? eventticketscenter.com wants $8.95 just to deliver a ticket via email... I'm passing for now.

Subtotal: $101.00
Service Fee: 1 x $31.82
Delivery: $8.95
---------------
$141.77

Eulogy 02-11-2020 02:01 PM

Ticketmaster for the Chicago show. Doesn’t specify whether it’s the venue or tm or both

Eulogy 02-11-2020 02:02 PM

And I think it’s physical tickets. I had to select a shipping method. Which also was extra. Show better be really good!!!

Joey Goldberg 02-11-2020 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MplsTaper (Post 4529970)
Eulogy where are you seeing $25 fees? Ticketbastard? eventticketscenter.com wants $8.95 just to deliver a ticket via email... I'm passing for now.

Subtotal: $101.00
Service Fee: 1 x $31.82
Delivery: $8.95
---------------
$141.77

god fuck, that's for one ticket?

i saw them twice 3 years ago for a combined price that was less than that

wHATcOLOR 02-11-2020 06:10 PM

poppy opening for the deftones.. that is really quite something

smashingjj 02-11-2020 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MplsTaper (Post 4529970)
Eulogy where are you seeing $25 fees? Ticketbastard? eventticketscenter.com wants $8.95 just to deliver a ticket via email... I'm passing for now.

Subtotal: $101.00
Service Fee: 1 x $31.82
Delivery: $8.95
---------------
$141.77

fucking e-mail delivery? who makes that shit up?

MplsTaper 02-12-2020 09:38 AM

It was really strange, the 2 options were email or mobile. I left it on email and at the end of it all it still said Delivery: $8.95. So $8.95 to send an email eh? That was on eventticketscenter which I don't trust anyway so I'm going to see what happens on ticketbastard this morning. You had to have a citi credit card to buy yesterday so even if I wanted to pay those absurd fees I wouldn't have been able to. Buying big tickets is so fucked these days.

MplsTaper 02-12-2020 09:51 AM

Meet and Greet: $395 + fees = $461.08

lol. Maybe if there were some drinks and a little blow involved. It was free to wait out in the rain December 2000. Caught the worst cold but all 5 Deftones were very kind about making small talk and signing two promo pics I got at the record store down the street. My gf at the time was a huge fan and had seen them a bunch going back to '96 but couldn't make the trip to St. Louis.

If you check out some of the groups/boards where the really die hard fans hang out a bunch of people are spending $400+ for these and some get a second for their partner.

Eulogy 02-12-2020 10:02 AM

Guys as I already said I think it’s physical tickets. Email option was probably just an error.

MplsTaper 02-12-2020 10:36 AM

This was not on ticketmaster and I think it was for some fancy early entry vip ticket. General sale for non-citi card or meet & greet folk is this morning.

I don't care, my poor ass just wants to spend $65-$85 to be able to show up whenever with a GA floor ticket. They can send me the ticket by bird if they want.

MplsTaper 02-12-2020 10:39 AM

ok, ok, it's Friday at 1 pm for everyone else. ok

"Tickets go on sale to the general public this Friday, February 14 at 1:00 p.m. local time.

Citi is the official presale credit card of the DEFTONES summer tour 2020. As such, Citi cardmembers will have access to purchase presale tickets beginning Tuesday, February 11tat 12 p.m. EST/9 a.m. PST until Thursday, February 13 at 10 p.m. local time through Citi"

Eulogy 02-12-2020 11:24 AM

There are other presales as well. Saw some codes on reddit yesterday.

FlamingGlobes 02-12-2020 05:33 PM

Hey guys. What about Far. Water & Solutions, right?


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