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ninsp 11-09-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4564875)
^really?

Absolutely.

smashingjj 11-09-2020 06:54 PM


ninsp 11-09-2020 08:05 PM

I was obsessed with SNW when it came out but I really think it’s their worst.

smashingjj 11-09-2020 08:12 PM


FlamingGlobes 11-09-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4564891)
I was obsessed with SNW when it came out but I really think itís their worst.

It's the sound of the band falling apart. But damn if it doesn't have some moments of true greatness. Like pizza, even bad Deftones is good Deftones.

FlamingGlobes 11-09-2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Greatvegetable (Post 4564884)
I don't get all the love for Diamond Eyes. It's so simplistic and lacks depth. Self Titled, Saturday Night Wrist and Koi No Yokan are the magical triumvirate for me (which means its objective) White Pony is awesome but it's kind of easy listening, like a greatest hits. I don't think Deftones became Deftones until White Pony, the first two are good, but sound like a garage band in comparison to their massive, layered sound from WP onwards.

It's weird that you say Diamond Eyes is simplistic and lacks depth while also heaping praise upon its follow-up, which was a retread with a fresh coat of paint but half as many hooks and/or memorable riffs. Gore and Ohms continue that sort of aimless streak they've been on. I don't hate any of it, but man I want them to blow my mind again.

smashingjj 11-09-2020 08:30 PM


smashingjj 11-09-2020 09:24 PM


ninsp 11-09-2020 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4564894)
It's weird that you say Diamond Eyes is simplistic and lacks depth while also heaping praise upon its follow-up, which was a retread with a fresh coat of paint but half as many hooks and/or memorable riffs. Gore and Ohms continue that sort of aimless streak they've been on. I don't hate any of it, but man I want them to blow my mind again.

I donít understand how you can be a Deftones fan and not absolutely fucking adore Ohms. I just donít see how you can see faults.

FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Greatvegetable (Post 4564901)
Koi No Yokan was not aimless, they clearly had the aim to make a big, beautiful, subtle record. There's a reason I call Diamond Eyes their Disney album - the melodies sound like they were written for nursery school kids.

Oh, right. I forgot. You're pretty infamous for that.

FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4564904)
I donít understand how you can be a Deftones fan and not absolutely fucking adore Ohms. I just donít see how you can see faults.


ninsp 11-10-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4564915)
Oh, right. I forgot. You're pretty infamous for that.

Isnít he the guy with the album?

Joey Goldberg 11-10-2020 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4564904)
I donít understand how you can be a Deftones fan and not absolutely fucking adore Ohms. I just donít see how you can see faults.

this is pretty much where i stand, but i probably would have said the same thing for DE or maybe even Koi (i say "maybe even" because even though i love it i could see how some of the more "knuckle-headed" fans would not quite click with it)

Ohms is like the band returning home after a decade-long journey, reuniting with their beloved old producer & just making that sweet, sweet music :stan:

FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ninsp (Post 4564918)
Isnít he the guy with the album?

Can you rephrase the question?

FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg (Post 4564922)
this is pretty much where i stand, but i probably would have said the same thing for DE or maybe even Koi (i say "maybe even" because even though i love it i could see how some of the more "knuckle-headed" fans would not quite click with it)

Ohms is like the band returning home after a decade-long journey, reuniting with their beloved old producer & just making that sweet, sweet music :stan:

YOU'RE A KNUCKLEHEAD!

*runs from thread*

FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 07:59 AM

White Pony
Diamond Eyes
Around the Fur

---

self-titled
Saturday Night Wrist

---

Koi No Yokan
Adrenaline
Gore
Ohms

Eat it, friends. :)

smashingjj 11-10-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Greatvegetable (Post 4564963)
Top Tier:

Self Titled
Saturday Night Wrist (even though it features that dickbag from soad)
Koi No Yokan

-

Excellent but not quite as magical:

White Pony

-

Hashed out in a week with the odd excellent moment:

Gore
Ohms

-

Disney:

Diamond Eyes.

First two not included as they may as well be by a different band.

That is objective, my furry friends.


FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by smashingjj (Post 4564968)

Can you rephrase the question?

FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatvegetable (Post 4564963)
Top Tier:

Self Titled
Saturday Night Wrist (even though it features that dickbag from soad)
Koi No Yokan

-

Excellent but not quite as magical:

White Pony

-

Hashed out in a week with the odd excellent moment:

Gore
Ohms

-

Disney:

Diamond Eyes.

First two not included as they may as well be by a different band.

That is objective, my furry friends.

Dickbag from SOAD? Do tell. What did he do that has you so upset?

smashingjj 11-10-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4565008)
Can you rephrase the question?


smashingjj 11-10-2020 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4565009)
Dickbag from SOAD? Do tell. What did he do that has you so upset?

Greatvegatable is from Azerbijan and does not agree one bit with Serj pro-Armenia sentiments

Joey Goldberg 11-10-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes (Post 4564956)
White Pony
Diamond Eyes
Around the Fur

---

self-titled
Saturday Night Wrist

---

Koi No Yokan
Adrenaline
Gore
Ohms

Eat it, friends. :)

solid top 3 & i would also put Adrenaline & Gore in the bottom tier, but your inclusion of Koi & Ohms there as well is just baffling

the type that shit that just makes a Goldberg shrug & say "you do you"

FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 05:53 PM


FlamingGlobes 11-10-2020 05:53 PM

As I said, Deftones, like pizza, are good even when they're bad. I don't hate any of their albums.

buzzard 11-10-2020 06:53 PM

What about when you try to liven up an oven pizza by adding to the toppings only to overload it to the point that nothing cooks and the whole thing is still soggy even after going four times over the suggested timing?

smashingjj 11-10-2020 07:29 PM



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