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reprise85 10-03-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by agenda suicide (Post 3769514)
I know that medication is abused too often in this country. I find nothing wrong with it when the proper steps are taken. It is scary knowing there are general practitioners that will write a perscription simply because someone walks in and says they think they're bipolar. Just because I don't have issues myself does not mean I don't know anything about the topic. When your family and close friends deal with problems, you're a bit clued in on what's going on.
I'm simply saying you don't need to jump to medication as the first step.

I don't believe ANY psych meds should be given out by PCPs except (possibly) emergency once-in-a-while benzodiazepines

Juvenile Bipolar is definitely a thing, and one that needs meds most likely if it is effecting your life (rottenugly) - but only a psychiatrist or psychologist should be diagnosing and treating any mental or emotional issues. Especially in kids, teenagers and young adults.

So go see a therapist, tell them what's going on and see if they recommend meds, therapy, or both. Also things like dietary choices should be looked into, you should also get a check up and some routine blood tests done to check for other things causing depression (like hypothyroidism).

Feel better dude

reprise85 10-03-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duovamp (Post 3769485)
Is it like cool to be depressed or something? God damn, sounds like everybody who's had a bad day is depressed now.

No

reprise85 10-03-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bahnzah (Post 3769469)
what could a 14 year old possibly be depressed about.

yeah cause depression is always reasonable and logical and only because of bad things in your life

reprise85 10-03-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by agenda suicide (Post 3769447)
Not everyone needs medication to solve their problems, but if you are going down that route, you sure as hell don't need to start popping pills with out having done in depth research as to what is best for yourself.

I know you're not really hating but unless you're psychotic (and even then) medication doesn't solve any of your problems. It just makes it easier to deal with the problems, you know maybe to close to a normal level, instead of everything being fucking impossible because you have no energy at all and constantly thinking of suicide or whatever the out of control symptom may be...

At least for us neurotics - therapy is the real treatment.

BTW just because we're on this topic, I just got back from my psychiatrist and my meds have been stable now for about five months which I never ever thought would happen. I was pretty much a hopeless case to many people... probably still am... but things can totally get better and I appreciate that I feel better than I used to even if I have a ways to go to 'mild/no symptoms'

And I have other mental issues but whatever my mood is better and I appreciate it

So um, I guess I'm a good case of medication working? :think: So far? But I still advise much caution.

null123 10-03-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dean_r_koontz (Post 3769430)
fuck you banana, i hope agenda suicide and charmbag are proud for supporting this humongous piece of shit.

I don't get it. when did you get so thin-skinned?

Dead Frequency 10-03-2011 07:45 PM

u got to face reality bro and start thinking differently also i know of this alternative ointment that works great for depression

Sonic Johnny 10-03-2011 07:54 PM

Hey sup y'all. Depression and Generalised Anxiety Disorder over here. I take drugs for neither, but I do a heal of therapy for both. Sure isn't the easiest way to treat it bur my experiences with friends coming off their meds was enough to scare me off. Physical exercise and a balanced diet are doing me huge favours though.

duovamp 10-03-2011 07:57 PM

Is this a support group or a circle jerk?

slunken 10-03-2011 07:58 PM

everybody has problems - why focus on yours?

rottenugly 10-03-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dean_r_koontz (Post 3769448)
i'm just trying to help the guy. if you want him to continue to live in pain, that's your trip man.

>Trying to help.


Yes, because insulting me for the past few days is trying to "help", you've done nothing but made my day a living hell because you think it's funny to make people feel like shit for your own personal gain.

Dead Frequency 10-03-2011 08:53 PM

:'(

Shallowed 10-03-2011 08:57 PM

I don't know? Maybe? If I feel shitty and "depressed", it's usually for a reason. If it's chronic, then it's probably just a long string of shitty things that are or aren't happening that make me feel that way.

rottenugly 10-03-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by slunken (Post 3769576)
everybody has problems - why focus on yours?

I made this thread so I can hear about everyone's storiez about depression and how they somehow recovered from depression, I had depression when i was 9-12 because my brother would constantly verbally and emotionally abuse me to the point where I had to move down to a basement to sleep, where I am still sleeping.

Shallowed 10-03-2011 09:35 PM

Your brother doesn't sound very nice.

The Jesus 10-03-2011 09:49 PM

I rejected depression years ago and have been fine ever since.

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by agenda suicide (Post 3769514)
I know that medication is abused too often in this country.

How do you know that?

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It is scary knowing there are general practitioners that will write a perscription simply because someone walks in and says they think they're bipolar.
The only reason you'd think that is because you have no concept of what bipolar disorder is.

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Just because I don't have issues myself does not mean I don't know anything about the topic.
I dunno it kind of seems like you're operating from the stance of someone who thinks an individual has full control over their consciousness, which isn't even true for mentally "healthy" people.

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I'm simply saying you don't need to jump to medication as the first step.
If you have a true neurological disorder then medication is a very important component to help regulate your brain chemistry. If you're sad because something bad happened to you, you don't need prozac.

bahnzah 10-03-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3769493)
boy this is the dumbest fucking thing you've said this week

you can't possibly think i was being serious.

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta of Muppet (Post 3769602)
I don't know? Maybe? If I feel shitty and "depressed", it's usually for a reason. If it's chronic, then it's probably just a long string of shitty things that are or aren't happening that make me feel that way.

congratulations you're normal

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bahnzah (Post 3769642)
you can't possibly think i was being serious.

oh i absolutely do

i mean since you're the one lecturing people about how even jokes & irony are harmful

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rottenugly (Post 3769604)
I made this thread so I can hear about everyone's storiez about depression and how they somehow recovered from depression, I had depression when i was 9-12 because my brother would constantly verbally and emotionally abuse me to the point where I had to move down to a basement to sleep, where I am still sleeping.

by the way guys i'm betting 20 bucks this is order 66

dean_r_koontz 10-03-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rottenugly (Post 3769595)
>Trying to help.


Yes, because insulting me for the past few days is trying to "help", you've done nothing but made my day a living hell because you think it's funny to make people feel like shit for your own personal gain.

i'm coaching you into becoming a man.

bahnzah 10-03-2011 10:39 PM

my personal advice to rottenugly would be to speak with a LMHC or therapist or psychologist. cognitive behavioral therapy is going to be the path of most resistance in dealing with your problem, but in my humble opinion, you should get with them to assess exactly how hard it will be. they will help you contextualize your problem and help you identify triggers in your life, if any, that instigate your episodes.

and by the way i've been struggling with depression since i was in the single digits. i've been on and off prozac and zoloft. i'm currently giving welbutrin a whirl.

and natalie is totally correct in saying that GP's will often prescribe these things without questioning it. to get on the welbutrin all i had to say was "this lmhc said i probably have disthymia and he said that welbutrin wouldn't affect my sex drive". and then she gave me a scrip for 150mg daily.

on the followup visit i let her know that my depressive episodes had been greatly alleviated but i was also having more trouble staving off anxiety attacks. she then doubled the welbutrin dosage and wrote a script for thirty 1-mg xanax pills to take "as needed". sort of scary actually.

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:42 PM

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and natalie is totally correct in saying that GP's will often prescribe these things without questioning it. to get on the welbutrin all i had to say was "this lmhc said i probably have disthymia and he said that welbutrin wouldn't affect my sex drive". and then she gave me a scrip for 150mg daily.
Yeah it's because these doctors have things called "charts" so you don't have to continually get re-diagnosed.

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on the followup visit i let her know that my depressive episodes had been greatly alleviated but i was also having more trouble staving off anxiety attacks. she then doubled the welbutrin dosage and wrote a script for thirty 1-mg xanax pills to take "as needed". sort of scary actually.
Not at all. Small doses of xanax are very popular for periodic anxiety treatment. I have them so I can sleep at night when I'm feeling anxious. I've taken one in two months. Yet again, one man's personal universe is the golden standard for all of reality and you just assume that the only time the doctor ever even considers your case is when you're in the office telling them things. Right. They keep notes just for the fuck of it.

bahnzah 10-03-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious (Post 3769640)
How do you know that?

probably because abuse exists and any amount of it is too much?

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:48 PM

First of all, that point is unverifiable and generally the result of popular culture's war on medication. The concept that the individual is wholly in control of their brain and facilities is important for the neo-conservative, social darwinistic model and when something comes along to challenge that, like psychotherapy and brain science, the impulse for the powers-that-be is to squash it by creating a feeling of shame in people for taking pills. Consider all the television shows, music, and movies that have a specifically anti-psychotherapy stance, the popular wisdom that "you can be ok if you try hard enough, loser." It's not true and that crap led me to lose a lot of my youth to depression and self-loathing. I feel good now and I'm on prozac and I've decided to be a crusader for this subject, because people act like they know everything about it when they are entirely operating on the basis of personal experience and popular idiom and have absolutely zero factual claims to back it up.

dean_r_koontz 10-03-2011 10:48 PM

high on fucken prozac man.

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:49 PM

completely and holy shit does it ever give me the dire rear

Eulogy 10-03-2011 10:52 PM

...you think there is a giant movement afoot by conservatives to deprive the pharmaceutical companies of revenue.....?

i don't know shit about shit here when it comes to the technical/medical aspects of all this but that doesn't sound right at all.

dean_r_koontz 10-03-2011 10:53 PM

eulogys dick just turned into a tree.

Trotskilicious 10-03-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy (Post 3769665)
...you think there is a giant movement afoot by conservatives to deprive the pharmaceutical companies of revenue.....?

no, i think the capitalist powers-that-be determine cultural values, it's a pretty basic communist concept

it's not a deliberate conspiracy theory, it's more of a general collective direction of culture by the means of production. They have the money and they determine how you get it.

they also own every single media outlet and control the government which determines the indoctrination/propaganda that is used in our public schools


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