albums with astonishingly bad production: [Archive]

The Admiral

02-04-2002, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by beamish13:
all of husker du's pre-WB records.....

I'd agree that Everything Falls Apart sounds stale, but I love those razor-sharp guitars on Metal Circus, Zen Arcade and New Day Rising. To me, that's Husker Du's sound. The WB stuff is clean, but it's just not the same...

killtheyouth

02-04-2002, 12:46 AM

I love the way Zen Arcade and New Day Rising sound...

I'd have to say Machina.

Finsta

02-04-2002, 12:47 AM

VELVET UNDERGROUND THEY SOUND WEIRD

failure

02-04-2002, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by killtheyouth:
I'd have to say Machina.

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silvergeek

02-04-2002, 12:59 AM

machina

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Castro

02-04-2002, 01:01 AM

Does early Pavement count as having production?

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The Admiral

02-04-2002, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Castro:
Does early Pavement count as having production?



Stuff like Pavement's early recordings, Sebadoh III, and GBV's pre-Under the Bushes work shouldn't count. It was intentionally messy and lo-fi. From all the reading I've done about how Pavement recorded Slanted & Enchanted, I'm tempted to say that it's "production" is actually very well done--every bit of that album was deliberately engineered.

Castro

02-04-2002, 01:18 AM

Their most 'produced' album is Terror Twilight and it's no coincidence that it sounds the best.

Translucence

02-04-2002, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by silvergeek:
machina



i'd have to agree... http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif

The Admiral

02-04-2002, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by Castro:
Their most 'produced' album is Terror Twilight and it's no coincidence that it sounds the best.

Boooorrrrring...Nigel Godrich is overrated.

Graveflower

02-04-2002, 01:34 AM

Terror Twilight sucks.

Slanted and Crooked Rain are Pavement's masterpieces.

The Maverick

02-04-2002, 05:10 AM

Metallica- ...And Justice For All
the production on that album is piss poor.

also
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Californication
the highs on that album crackle and it drives me insane. esp. the high vocals on "otherside" but it creeps in at other times too. what a shame.

j o e

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Smack Me In My Mouth

02-04-2002, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by The Maverick:
Metallica- ...And Justice For All
the production on that album is piss poor.


I agree--it sounds like Lars is drumming on cardboard boxes.

The exploding boy

02-04-2002, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by Mayfuck:
Alot of early 80s stuff is really gritty.

Yes.

ShotFullOfDiamonds

02-04-2002, 03:01 PM

The foos self titled has always seemed pretty badly produced and wishy washy sounding to me if you know what i mean...

august pumpkin

02-04-2002, 03:20 PM

sadly, machina is what i thought of first...then some of the grittier early 80s REM stuff. but that is more the time it was made, not the choice of production.

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Egadsman

02-04-2002, 03:21 PM

yeah,it's been sort of said already, but....

WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT

Best/Worst Production ever!

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The Admiral

02-04-2002, 04:39 PM

There are two that I think of immediately. One, And Justice For All, has already been mentioned, but I'm surprised no one has brought up the Stooges' Raw Power. That's the king of poorly produced albums. Iggy and Bowie fucked that one up good and proper, especially in the mixing stages--the levels are all wrong. The remixed version sounds a bit better, but it's worth hunting down the pre-1997 versions of the album/CD to hear just how bad it originally was.

beamish13

02-04-2002, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by silvergeek:
machina



definitely. overproduced crap....

SomazooM

02-04-2002, 06:26 PM

Jethro Tull's "Aqualung" comes to mind. Even the remastered version doesn't really help that much. It sounds so bland. And also "Too Old To Rock 'N Roll" has an awful sound.

Fathoms (unadored)

02-04-2002, 10:57 PM

Siamese Dream
Mellon Collie
Machina

nevermind

02-04-2002, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Fathoms (unadored):
Siamese Dream

FearFactory

02-05-2002, 12:15 AM

Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar



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Finsta

02-05-2002, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by The Admiral:
Stooges' Raw Power. 

Sorry, are you fucking dumb?

Julian, Porn CONNOISSEUR

02-05-2002, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Finsta:
Sorry, are you fucking dumb?


THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF RAW POWER, ONE PRODUCED BY BOWIE, Z HANDFUL OF BOOTLEGS AND THE BRUCE ****INSON/IGGY POP PRODUCED 97 REISSUE. BOWIES PRODUCTION IS TERRIBLE ON RAW POWER, AND IT IS WIDELY KNOWN AS A BADLY PRODUCED ALBUM.

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The Admiral

02-05-2002, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Julian, Porn CONNOISSEUR:
THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF RAW POWER, ONE PRODUCED BY BOWIE, Z HANDFUL OF BOOTLEGS AND THE BRUCE ****INSON/IGGY POP PRODUCED 97 REISSUE. BOWIES PRODUCTION IS TERRIBLE ON RAW POWER, AND IT IS WIDELY KNOWN AS A BADLY PRODUCED ALBUM.



Like he said...

azvd

02-05-2002, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by The Maverick:
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Californication


Wow, I thought I was the only one who considered it a bad produced album. I really don't know why they hired Rick Rubin to put out an album with the crappiest sound. The songs are good, they deserved something better - but they decided to give them this "analog sound".

AZVD.

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The Maverick

02-05-2002, 06:44 AM

Creed's first and only decent album My Own Prison. the production on that album is horrid.

j o e

Egadsman

02-05-2002, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by SomazooM:
Jethro Tull's "Aqualung" comes to mind. Even the remastered version doesn't really help that much. It sounds so bland. And also "Too Old To Rock 'N Roll" has an awful sound.



The record companys weren't really thinking when they put out the TULL CD issues. A lot of them are not from master tapes, but an inferior source. From what I hear, the Vinyl and the Gold Disc of Aqualung sound pretty good. Don't know, haven't heard them. Still, Aqualung is great album, nonetheless.
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Mooney

02-05-2002, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by FearFactory:
Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar





was that one produced by trent reznor?

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Fathoms (unadored)

02-05-2002, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by The Maverick:
Creed's first and only decent album My Own Prison. the production on that album is horrid.

j o e

Have you listened to it lately? I thought it was decent when it came out but the last time I tried listening to it I was so overwhelmed with its badness that I sold it the next day.

The Maverick

02-05-2002, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Fathoms (unadored):
Have you listened to it lately? I thought it was decent when it came out but the last time I tried listening to it I was so overwhelmed with its badness that I sold it the next day.


well, no, no i haven't. but at last check i think there were like 4 songs i really liked off of it. but all of that doesn't change the fact that the production sucks ass.

j o e

FearFactory

02-06-2002, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by Mooney:
was that one produced by trent reznor?



Antichrist Superstar was conceived and created by Marilyn Manson.

Produced by Trent Reznor & Dave "Rave" Oglivie.

Co-produced by M. Manson except tracks 3 & 11 produced by M. Manson and Sean Beavan.



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mjnova

02-06-2002, 01:39 AM

Damn, I'm always the only the person who likes Machina. The producing adds LAYERS of SOUND. Which are GOOD. I thought Adore was too sparce until I heard it live, then I appreicated it more.

I kinda have trouble seperating bad production for bad albums (Just glancing at my cds, I see 10,000Hz Legend. Sure Air produced it, but it's the songs that suck).

Max

bloop

02-06-2002, 09:19 PM

Just because an album isn't produced to appeal to you doesn't mean it is horribly overproduced. Some of us actually liked Machina. It is layered, but at its best moments also brilliant.

mjnova

02-06-2002, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by bloop:
Just because an album isn't produced to appeal to you doesn't mean it is horribly overproduced. Some of us actually liked Machina. It is layered, but at its best moments also brilliant.

Damn skippy.

trine

02-06-2002, 09:38 PM

I love over-produced music.

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McCollum

02-07-2002, 01:16 AM

the stokes is this it. stupid gimmicky fucktards. "lets make it sound like were authentic and indie when actually we're a bunch of rich kids"

if there is a llama

02-07-2002, 03:25 AM

Anything by the Frogs.

David

Fish

02-08-2002, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by The Maverick:
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Californication
the highs on that album crackle and it drives me insane. esp. the high vocals on "otherside" but it creeps in at other times too. what a shame.


I agree. Loads of Rick Rubin's albums do that.. System of a Down's first album and renegades by R.A.T.M. have the same problem. Rick Rubin sucks.

The Maverick

02-08-2002, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by Fish:
renegades by R.A.T.M. 

wow, i never noticed it on Renegades, i guess maybe it's because de la Rocha doesn't have the vocal range keidis (sp?) does. i'll have to go back and listen to that now.

j o e

Egadsman

02-08-2002, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Fish:
[B}Rick Rubin sucks.[/B]

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