Zwan 2001-11-16 Glass House, Pomona, CA, US

Spaldz · 02-28-2008, 01:55 PM

Ok so this is our first Zwan show which we have recorded, but SPLRA lists alot of unsurfaced sources?
http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?...Zwan2001-11-16

Does anyone have a copy of any of these unsurfaced recordings or know more info about them? I have the Roth and Halteh sources but I'd love to hear some of these others as this was back when Zwan was actually half decent.

Is the DPA 4061>M1 soundcheck source Fares'? I'm assuming this is hoarded?

redbull · 02-28-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaldz

Is the DPA 4061>M1 soundcheck source Fares'? I'm assuming this is hoarded?

iirc that might be Mike Valencia's tape. don't remember.

Nothing/everything · 02-29-2008, 01:51 AM

those were the days. I remember listening to cast a stone for the first time and having goosebumps.

Spaldz · 02-29-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by redbull

iirc that might be Mike Valencia's tape. don't remember.

Does anyone have a copy of Mike Valencia's source of the show or the soundcheck?

CrabbMan · 02-29-2008, 02:45 PM

Hehe, I went to that show. I brought blank CDs and a SASE, but I couldn't get any of the million tapers to take my discs and make me a copy. . . not that it was hard to get one online shortly thereafter.

leopheard · 03-03-2008, 06:58 AM

I remember getting goosebumps after that song "No matter what I do, I was always searching for you...". Lovely. Zwan had a very different sound back then...

TheDeuce · 03-07-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Spaldz

I have the Roth and Halteh sources

i didn't know there were two sources for this. i don't know which one i had but it wasn't very clear. are either of this very good quality-wise?

Spaldz · 03-07-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDeuce

i didn't know there were two sources for this. i don't know which one i had but it wasn't very clear. are either of this very good quality-wise?

Both are certainly listenable. The source info I have for each is as follows:

Zwan
11.16.01 The Glass House; Pomona, CA

Taper: Fares Halteh + Jason Guzman
Source: DPA-4061>M1 + SS DSM-6SL>PA-6LC3B(170)>MZR37
Location: 25 feet from stage, dead center + 2 feet in front/beneath right hanging stacks.
Conversion: PCM-R300>Coax Cable>midiman 2496 audiophile>cool edit pro + Sony Home MDS JB940 > S/PDIF > Zoltrix Nightengale > Cool Edit 2000 > CDWave
Resampling: software downsample via cooledit pre/post filter High Qaulity 999, 44.1k 16 bit stereo
Editor: Fares Halteh
Editing: paragraphic equalizer in soudforge - some bass removal on DPA source. Mixed in Cool Edit Pro 4 track
SHN: master wav's > cdwave editor > MKW Audio Compression Tool

************************************************** ******************************
THIS SHOW IS TO BE MP3'd
************************************************** ******************************

Disc 1 (74:36)
01. Intro (01:46)
02. Chrysanthemum (04:27)
03. Permanence (04:05)
04. El Sol (04:28)
05. The Empty Sea (04:53)
06. Instrumental (How Things Are) (01:53)
07. Glorious (06:06)
08. Cast a Stone (05:15)
09. Don't Let Me Down [Beatles] (04:39)
10. Jesus I (10:06)
11. The Shining Path (05:33)
12. What Have They Done to Me? (05:59)
13. Sorrow (03:10)
14. Never Give Up (03:39)
15. My Life + Times (03:37)
16. And So I Died of a Broken Heart (05:00)

and

Zwan
11/16/2001
The Glass House - Pomona, CA

Taper: Jason Roth
Source: Schoeps MK4 > Rmod2K1 > SBM-1 > M1 @ 48khz
Location: 25 feet from stage, dead center
Conversion: PCM-R300>Coax Cable>midiman 2496 audiophile>cool edit pro
Resampling: software downsample via cooledit pre/post filter High Qaulity 999, 44.1k 16 bit stereo
Editor: Fares Halteh
Editing: paragraphic equalizer in soudforge - some bass removal and minor high end/mid addition
SHN: master wav's > MKW Audio Compression Tool

Disc 1
01. Chrysanthemum
02. Permanence
03. El Sol
04. The Empty Sea
05. Glorious
06. Cast a Stone
07. Don't Let Me Down
08. Jesus I
09. The Shining Path
10. What Have They Done to Me?
11. Sorrow
12. Never Give Up
13. My Life + Times

Disc 2
01. And So I Died of a Broken Heart

jamesey · 03-07-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CrabbMan

Hehe, I went to that show. I brought blank CDs and a SASE, but I couldn't get any of the million tapers to take my discs and make me a copy. . . not that it was hard to get one online shortly thereafter.

i went to that show too. what's up harvey mudd guy!

wally · 03-07-2008, 04:30 PM

I have the valencia soundcheck

Don't ask me where it is though...

TheDeuce · 03-07-2008, 11:16 PM

which source is better quality. i might have to get this again and give it another spin. it's been ages since i listened to early (read better) zwan.

Spaldz · 03-08-2008, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wally

I have the valencia soundcheck

Don't ask me where it is though...

Damnit wally, think!! It would be so good to hear this.

gjackx · 03-18-2008, 09:53 AM

I have a SS DSM-6S>D8 version of this that has never seen the light of day. No idea where it is though. I think I popped it in once and it sounded pretty good. I may come across it one of these years...

All I recall about that recording experience from this gig is that I was one of the few that didn't get the word about the taping policy, so I was stealthing like I had always done. Dooooh!

Snail* · 03-20-2008, 10:48 AM

There were at least a few recordings of the souncheck.

http://www.hoarder.net/glasshouse-sc.jpg

wally · 03-20-2008, 11:55 AM

It will be a great year if we all work together.

Spaldz · 03-20-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snail*

There were at least a few recordings of the souncheck.

http://www.hoarder.net/glasshouse-sc.jpg

Fancy enlightening us?

Slurpee · 03-20-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaldz

Fancy enlightening us?

It's a picture of SP hoarding superstars at the Zwan show, duh.

PJ & Fares are both there... don't know anyone else.

The Gaddrow · 03-20-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Slurpee

PJ & Fares are both there... don't know anyone else.

Apparently, you don't know anyone.

The Gaddrow · 03-20-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gaddrow

Apparently, you don't know anyone.

Though, I can't remember who is standing behind Chris.

wHATcOLOR · 03-20-2008, 05:00 PM

was this when they had the deer in the band?

wally · 03-20-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snail*

There were at least a few recordings of the souncheck.

http://www.hoarder.net/glasshouse-sc.jpg

roll call from left to right...

The Gaddrow · 03-21-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wHATcOLOR

was this when they had the deer in the band?

Yes, he's standing behind Chris.

Spaldz · 03-21-2008, 10:21 AM

Who are they all? Looks like they've dressed for the occasion.....

The Gaddrow · 03-21-2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaldz

Who are they all? Looks like they've dressed for the occasion.....

They are the OG's.

Slurpee · 03-21-2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaddrow

Apparently, you don't know anyone.

Haha sorry, apparently I can no longer tell which scrawny nerd or swarthy arab is which.

The Gaddrow · 03-21-2008, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slurpee

scrawny nerd or swarthy arab is which.

Class.

02-28-2008, 01:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Spaldz Record every show Posts: 3,064	Zwan 2001-11-16 Glass House, Pomona, CA, US Ok so this is our first Zwan show which we have recorded, but SPLRA lists alot of unsurfaced sources? http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?...Zwan2001-11-16 Does anyone have a copy of any of these unsurfaced recordings or know more info about them? I have the Roth and Halteh sources but I'd love to hear some of these others as this was back when Zwan was actually half decent. Is the DPA 4061>M1 soundcheck source Fares'? I'm assuming this is hoarded?

03-07-2008, 11:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
TheDeuce Apocalyptic Poster Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 1,291	which source is better quality. i might have to get this again and give it another spin. it's been ages since i listened to early (read better) zwan. __________________ the one... the only... TheDeuce

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02-29-2008, 01:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nothing/everything ghost of a bad friend Location: Groningen; Netherlands Posts: 7,942	those were the days. I remember listening to cast a stone for the first time and having goosebumps.

02-29-2008, 02:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
CrabbMan Amish Hoe Fighter Location: Humboldt, CA, USA Posts: 906	Hehe, I went to that show. I brought blank CDs and a SASE, but I couldn't get any of the million tapers to take my discs and make me a copy. . . not that it was hard to get one online shortly thereafter.

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leopheard Pledge Location: Northwest, UK Posts: 62	I remember getting goosebumps after that song "No matter what I do, I was always searching for you...". Lovely. Zwan had a very different sound back then...

03-07-2008, 04:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
wally cibohplaicos Posts: 10,316	I have the valencia soundcheck Don't ask me where it is though...

03-18-2008, 09:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
gjackx Oblivious Virgin Posts: 34	I have a SS DSM-6S>D8 version of this that has never seen the light of day. No idea where it is though. I think I popped it in once and it sounded pretty good. I may come across it one of these years... All I recall about that recording experience from this gig is that I was one of the few that didn't get the word about the taping policy, so I was stealthing like I had always done. Dooooh!

03-20-2008, 10:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
Snail* Pledge Location: Minneapolis-ish Posts: 55	There were at least a few recordings of the souncheck. http://www.hoarder.net/glasshouse-sc.jpg

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