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Old 11-05-2008, 10:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question why aren't live recordings split into multiple discs anymore

more and more i'm finding that the shows i download are not split onto multiple CDs, but instead just many continuous tracks. why is this?
are people not wanting to bother with fade in/out?
do they want us to decide where CD1 ends and CD2 begins?
are people not burning shows to CD anymore?

how do you handle these recordings?

 
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hard-drive space is cheaper these days, lots of people don't burn their flacs to CDs anymore. Just playing the whole concert without fades from start to finish is nice.

I just try to split it evenly so each CD has a reasonable amount of music on as few discs as possible.

 
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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nobody burns cd's in this age of mp3/digital audio players

 
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I just try to split it evenly so each CD has a reasonable amount of music on as few discs as possible.
i prefer a split between set and encore, if possible.

i've seen people making the split (with fades, unfortunately) in the middle of the show, just so that each cd would have an equal amount of music. that was a shame.

 
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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yeah let people do their own fades, just circulate the continuous music files.

 
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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more and more i'm finding that the shows i download are not split onto multiple CDs, but instead just many continuous tracks. why is this?
are people not wanting to bother with fade in/out?
do they want us to decide where CD1 ends and CD2 begins?
are people not burning shows to CD anymore?

how do you handle these recordings?

you basically want one of these

http://whathifi.com/Review/Naim-HDX/ (yes it plays up to 24-bit FLAC or WAV)

or a cheaper equivalent

edit: you can also connect it to a TV to browse and play your files via their own GUI

 
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In my opinion, recordings should be tracked for CDs with fade tracks that create a seamless recording when removed unless there's something like a tape flip at the disk change.

 
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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In my opinion, recordings should be tracked for CDs with fade tracks that create a seamless recording when removed unless there's something like a tape flip at the disk change.
you mean like this? http://www.archive.org/details/tsp20...22.mbho.flac16

 
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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speaking for myself mostly...
i think you should be happy that tapers take the time transfer, track, edit files at all

 
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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In my opinion, recordings should be tracked for CDs with fade tracks that create a seamless recording when removed unless there's something like a tape flip at the disk change.
this. It takes a little more time to do the editing though...it's mildly irritating, but more professional.

Sometimes when I'm recording I do have to cut over from one deck to another. Basically, if there's a cut on the master, just try to do the best you can with it.

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Naim HDX review - whathifi.com (yes it plays up to 24-bit FLAC or WAV)
Ha ha! Too bad it only costs ~$8,923.

 
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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speaking for myself mostly...
i think you should be happy that tapers take the time transfer, track, edit files at all
i wasn't complaining at all. simply wondering if there was an explanation for the change i've seen over the years.

 
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i wasn't complaining at all. simply wondering if there was an explanation for the change i've seen over the years.
Is it really that hard to figure that cutting a show up to fit on an antiquated piece technology is not a good idea. I demand we go back to making all shows fit on 2, 90 minute Maxelll tapes.

 
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:10 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Rider, I'm sure Billy agrees with you about the cassettes.

I stopped splitting shows to discs 2-3 years ago. CDs are dead. Personally I play the Flac's on my iRiver h120. When I am at home I use Cog on my Mac Mini that is hooked up to my TV and speakers.

 
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:38 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but for years many have been horrible with properly splitting a show up. I archive shows I go to & usually provide copies to the artist/band since I'm friends with them anyway. I would never give a poorly split cd. No excuse to not take the time to do it right.

 
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I would never give a poorly split cd. No excuse to not take the time to do it right.
This.

 
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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personally i dont like the fades and splits and im sure thats the reason. if you want them i image theyd figure you can do it yourself.

 
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Download a fucking free recording program like REAPER and fade it your fucking self

 
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:55 PM   #18 (permalink)
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shudduppe yaface

 
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Old 11-09-2008, 08:27 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yes, something like that.
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speaking for myself mostly...
i think you should be happy that tapers take the time transfer, track, edit files at all
Yes.

 
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Old 11-09-2008, 08:51 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Oh, Pasta. You have such a way with words.

 
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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nobody burns cd's in this age of mp3/digital audio players
depends... If you are a trader, you definatelly don't want an mp3 cause there ain't much you can do with it. Ie. I still trade and therefore don't want any mp3's. If you d'load it for your purpouse, I supposse you don't mind.

 
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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FLACs croPUMPKINS, FLACs!

 
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
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the releases from livesmashingpumpkins.com are split onto multiple discs.

 
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:40 AM   #25 (permalink)
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you think billy or the pumpkins opinion / position on a matter is going to have much influence here?

just because BC / SP do it that way means it's the best? right....

 
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:43 AM   #26 (permalink)
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