Listening to Mary Star Of The Sea...

Dead · 03-05-2005, 08:21 PM

and it's pretty good. Aside from the clipping making my speakers rumble. Paz only ruined it live, not on the album.

Dead · 03-05-2005, 08:22 PM

I will never forgive him for "with diamonds that can sing" though.

mistle · 03-05-2005, 08:27 PM

i'm gonna come out of the closet here

i think zwan was fucking awesome both live and on record and i it's a tragedy they had to break up the band

there, i said it. i love zwan

neopryn · 03-05-2005, 09:22 PM

why don't you two go have some gay sex then lol

RopeyLopey · 03-05-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by neopryn
why don't you two go have some gay sex then lol

Mister, you owe us MSOTS survivor!

union jack · 03-05-2005, 09:58 PM

msots was a good, solid, professional pop/rock album but no way near any of the pumpkins' albums...< FACT

chris_bakewell · 03-05-2005, 10:53 PM

The Zwan album ain't three bad!!!

croPUMPKINS · 03-05-2005, 11:14 PM

do you guys have your ears checked from time to time?

pumpkingrrrl · 03-06-2005, 12:44 AM

I absolutely love MSOTS. favorite songs are El Sol, Ride a Black Swan, Heartsong, and Of a Broken Heart.

Dead · 03-06-2005, 12:56 AM

The clipping still bugs my ears but it's ignorable a lot of the time.

better than new · 03-06-2005, 01:35 AM

the only problem i really have with the album was that i thought a lot of the songs sounded too much alike. i liked lyric

neopryn · 03-06-2005, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by union jack
msots was a good, solid, professional pop/rock album but no way near any of the pumpkins' albums...< FACT

there are no facts, music is subjective you piece of shit

Gollum · 03-06-2005, 04:21 AM

I too love MSOTS. Particularly, El Sol, Ride a Black Swan, Heartsong and Come with Me. Luckily you can't hear the clipping when you listen to it in your car stereo.

VoxUpDoc · 03-06-2005, 08:38 PM

Yeah, it's pretty good.

It was an odd sound to go for though, and the tracklist they went for was patchy.

Declaration of Faith, Jesus I, Heartsongs, Yeah! were all pretty mediocre (if not dire in places) whilst even Broken Heart suffered from a poor mix - you could barely here the strings.

But still...not a bad album.

El Sol and Desire are awesome.

Fathoms · 03-06-2005, 09:02 PM

I was in love with it for the first two weeks. But after the novelty wore off all it's flaws rose to the top, now I can't even listen all the way through.

Diamond Dream · 03-06-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Dead
I will never forgive him for "with diamonds that can sing" though.

why

ZWANPHONY · 03-07-2005, 03:37 AM

because diamonds can't sing you moron!

yeah i was just listening to marystar the other day, god it's great. then i put in the cafe la danse acoustic fm show...god they were awesome, well like dead said, paz kinda ruined it on that show a little...but some parts were bearable.

VoxUpDoc · 03-07-2005, 06:41 AM

Y'know what I think broke the band?

That whole laidback "we're in it for fun and having a laugh" angle Billy always talked about... well the rest of the band apparently believed that, but Billy was just trying to differentiate Zwan from the Pumpkins and sell the band to "the kids".

smashing0 · 03-07-2005, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by Fathoms
now I can't even listen all the way through.

it wasn't even that easy to do at first

DieDiemydarling · 03-07-2005, 07:26 AM

Congratulations.

Dead · 03-07-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Woody
Y'know what I think broke the band?

That whole laidback "we're in it for fun and having a laugh" angle Billy always talked about... well the rest of the band apparently believed that, but Billy was just trying to differentiate Zwan from the Pumpkins and sell the band to "the kids".

Nah, it was Paz trying to get laid by Pajo. And this other stuff. And Matt drinking too much. Oh yeah and their immorality.

sweter33 · 03-07-2005, 02:38 PM

"Freedom Ain't What it Used to be" is one of the greatest songs Billy's written. like EVER.
I know it's not MSOTS, but it's a sign how brilliant would have Djali album been if it had ever come out...

As for msots, I love "desire" and "baby let's rock" (weird as it sounds, I really do!!!)

KingJeremy · 03-07-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by union jack
msots was a good, solid, professional pop/rock album but no way near any of the pumpkins' albums...< FACT

Fact - I believe that it is a better album than either Gish or Machina.

Spaldz · 03-07-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by sweter33
"Freedom Ain't What it Used to be" is one of the greatest songs Billy's written. like EVER.
I know it's not MSOTS, but it's a sign how brilliant would have Djali album been if it had ever come out...

I agree totally. I loved Djali stuff. It was great.

ZackZ · 03-07-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by ciGarki
whats clipping? cutting the track too soon?

The top of the sound wave gets chopped off because it's more than the equipment can handle. It can make a very harsh hissing or popping sound, which some people claim to hear loudly on Zwan.

Corganist · 03-07-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by KingJeremy
Fact - I believe that it is a better album than either Gish or Machina.

Yikes. I like to think I'm one of the bigger MSOTS defenders...but I don't know if even I would go this far in singing its praises.

It was better than Adore though.

tcm · 03-07-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Corganist

Yikes. I like to think I'm one of the bigger MSOTS defenders...but I don't know if even I would go this far in singing its praises.

It was better than Adore though.

you were so right, but then you stopped being right.

alisonmonster · 03-07-2005, 08:33 PM

i liked it enough when it came out - the zwan show i went to was okay i guess. Jesus I i liked a lot - got sick of the album pretty fast - then pawned it off on my b/f who now has it constant irritating rotation in his car.

Luke de Spa · 03-07-2005, 09:51 PM

This is the first time I've listened to it in a long while, and I have to say it's gotten worse.

I can tolerate the production but most of the songs are just boring. "Declarations of Faith" would be good with an, uh, appropriate chorus, and "Of a Broken Heart" is still nice (but doesn't quite seem sincere on record), but otherwise it's a bit of a bomb.

2.5 stars at any volume!

Prima Materia · 03-09-2005, 12:47 AM

MSOTS is definately not quite as good as ANY SP albums. Personally I can't choose a fav. pumpkins album or worst. They are all so different. I mean, siamese dream and pisces are the most simular out of all the albums, but what do you expect, Pisces is all siamese dream b-sides. I hate when people diss adore though...

03-05-2005, 08:21 PM	#1
Dead Deaddy is your daddy! Location: Veronica Mars played with my Wii. Posts: 39,173	Listening to Mary Star Of The Sea... and it's pretty good. Aside from the clipping making my speakers rumble. Paz only ruined it live, not on the album. __________________ I like video games, Spider-Man, and long walks on the beach.

03-07-2005, 03:37 AM	#17
ZWANPHONY Apocalyptic Poster Location: SC USA Posts: 1,350	because diamonds can't sing you moron! yeah i was just listening to marystar the other day, god it's great. then i put in the cafe la danse acoustic fm show...god they were awesome, well like dead said, paz kinda ruined it on that show a little...but some parts were bearable. __________________ "I reach for God like I reach for Ketchup" --billy corgan To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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03-05-2005, 08:22 PM	#2
Dead Deaddy is your daddy! Location: Veronica Mars played with my Wii. Posts: 39,173	I will never forgive him for "with diamonds that can sing" though.

03-05-2005, 08:27 PM	#3
mistle bonnie stars Location: saxophone Posts: 12,077	i'm gonna come out of the closet here i think zwan was fucking awesome both live and on record and i it's a tragedy they had to break up the band there, i said it. i love zwan

03-05-2005, 09:22 PM	#4
neopryn let's see your penis! Location: i had a few beers, but i'm cool to drive Posts: 31,847	why don't you two go have some gay sex then lol

03-05-2005, 09:58 PM	#6
union jack Demi-God Posts: 300	msots was a good, solid, professional pop/rock album but no way near any of the pumpkins' albums...< FACT

03-05-2005, 10:53 PM	#7
chris_bakewell Apocalyptic Poster Location: I choose the banjo! Posts: 3,197	The Zwan album ain't three bad!!!

03-05-2005, 11:14 PM	#8
croPUMPKINS Ownz Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 629	do you guys have your ears checked from time to time?

03-06-2005, 12:44 AM	#9
pumpkingrrrl Apocalyptic Poster Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,007	I absolutely love MSOTS. favorite songs are El Sol, Ride a Black Swan, Heartsong, and Of a Broken Heart.

03-06-2005, 12:56 AM	#10
Dead Deaddy is your daddy! Location: Veronica Mars played with my Wii. Posts: 39,173	The clipping still bugs my ears but it's ignorable a lot of the time.

03-06-2005, 01:35 AM	#11
better than new Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,606	the only problem i really have with the album was that i thought a lot of the songs sounded too much alike. i liked lyric

03-06-2005, 04:21 AM	#13
Gollum Pledge Posts: 191	I too love MSOTS. Particularly, El Sol, Ride a Black Swan, Heartsong and Come with Me. Luckily you can't hear the clipping when you listen to it in your car stereo.

03-06-2005, 08:38 PM	#14
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,881	Yeah, it's pretty good. It was an odd sound to go for though, and the tracklist they went for was patchy. Declaration of Faith, Jesus I, Heartsongs, Yeah! were all pretty mediocre (if not dire in places) whilst even Broken Heart suffered from a poor mix - you could barely here the strings. But still...not a bad album. El Sol and Desire are awesome.

03-06-2005, 09:02 PM	#15
Fathoms Pledge Location: omnipresent Posts: 196	I was in love with it for the first two weeks. But after the novelty wore off all it's flaws rose to the top, now I can't even listen all the way through.

03-07-2005, 06:41 AM	#18
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,881	Y'know what I think broke the band? That whole laidback "we're in it for fun and having a laugh" angle Billy always talked about... well the rest of the band apparently believed that, but Billy was just trying to differentiate Zwan from the Pumpkins and sell the band to "the kids".

03-07-2005, 07:26 AM	#20
DieDiemydarling Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,679	Congratulations.

03-07-2005, 02:38 PM	#22
sweter33 Apocalyptic Poster Location: a point or extent in space Posts: 1,160	"Freedom Ain't What it Used to be" is one of the greatest songs Billy's written. like EVER. I know it's not MSOTS, but it's a sign how brilliant would have Djali album been if it had ever come out... As for msots, I love "desire" and "baby let's rock" (weird as it sounds, I really do!!!)

03-07-2005, 08:33 PM	#28
alisonmonster Minion of Satan Location: gasoline alley Posts: 9,017	i liked it enough when it came out - the zwan show i went to was okay i guess. Jesus I i liked a lot - got sick of the album pretty fast - then pawned it off on my b/f who now has it constant irritating rotation in his car.

03-07-2005, 09:51 PM	#29
Luke de Spa someone more...punk rock? Location: Ice cream pig out in M1-aud is why i don't play plug in baby the wrong way, like you Posts: 22,182	This is the first time I've listened to it in a long while, and I have to say it's gotten worse. I can tolerate the production but most of the songs are just boring. "Declarations of Faith" would be good with an, uh, appropriate chorus, and "Of a Broken Heart" is still nice (but doesn't quite seem sincere on record), but otherwise it's a bit of a bomb. 2.5 stars at any volume!

03-09-2005, 12:47 AM	#30
Prima Materia Amish Rake Fighter Location: Placerville, California, USA Posts: 12	MSOTS is definately not quite as good as ANY SP albums. Personally I can't choose a fav. pumpkins album or worst. They are all so different. I mean, siamese dream and pisces are the most simular out of all the albums, but what do you expect, Pisces is all siamese dream b-sides. I hate when people diss adore though...