2pac appreciation post - Page 2

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Dead

I know and dislike a lot of those, so give me some money.

Whic ones? Have you listened extensively to Wu Tang Clan and their solo albums? Like Rza and Method Man? If that doesn't move you I'm surprised. I mean listen to a whole album from these artists. Tehy are all way better than Eminem. Eminem ain't worth a food stamp.

cap'n jazz · 08-03-2004, 02:25 PM

maynard

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey
Eazy E - I'd Rather Fuck You is the best rap song ever

I'd rather fuck with you all goddamned night cause your pussy's good, now I'm fuckin' all your friends cause you ran your mouth like I knew you would.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey
i own like 10 Wu Tang related albums and I still like Eminem

Maybe I should just stop. White rappers suck and Eminem's songs do not differ in their lyrical ideas. They all have the same underlying anger and lack of focus.

silent1 · 08-03-2004, 02:30 PM

lol. it's funny how em's name always get's brought up in ANY rap discussion. he's just a copy cat anyways! anyone ever hear of ESHAM?

cap'n jazz · 08-03-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey
DMX is trash
he just yells a lot of stupid cliche bullshit
he's a parody

isn't that the one that barks?

ERRBODY IN THE CLUB GETTIN TIPSY!

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey
eminem is hysterical, and obviously technically a great rapper

what the hell is the problem? why does every rapper have to be "street?" come on

I don't think every rapper has to be street. I listen to a Tha Pharcyde and nothing they rap about involves gangsta culture. Quite the opposite, actually. Most of the rap I like could not be described as gangsta.

Eminem's music just reminds me of why I hate rap culture today. It's all about money and anger.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by silent1
lol. it's funny how em's name always get's brought up in ANY rap discussion. he's just a copy cat anyways! anyone ever hear of ESHAM?

Yeah, he's that Detroit Pscyhopathic posse guy, right? I have a few friends that dig him.

SuckSuckStyle · 08-03-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by The Light
White rappers suck

not beastie boys.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by SuckSuckStyle

not beastie boys.

They're all right but they'll never compare to Public Enemy. When I think Beastie Boys I think Public Enemy cause of their tours together.

SuckSuckStyle · 08-03-2004, 02:39 PM

yeah but they're so different....but not politically.

i went to see chuck D speak last march. it was really really good.

Dead · 08-03-2004, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by The Light
Whic ones? Have you listened extensively to Wu Tang Clan and their solo albums? Like Rza and Method Man? If that doesn't move you I'm surprised. I mean listen to a whole album from these artists. Tehy are all way better than Eminem. Eminem ain't worth a food stamp.

I haven't listened extensively to those, and I know I would hate them a lot. And Eminem is a great rapper whether you like him or not. I'm not saying those guys are bad rappers, but I sure don't like them.

Dead · 08-03-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by The Light
It's all about money and anger.

I thought all rap was about this. Or at least the anger part.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey
What does Eminem have to do with rap culture? He's completely out there compared to anything else

Isn't most of the stuff you're recommending angry?

What do you mean out there? I want you to continue that, it sounds interesting but I don't get where out there is.

Yeah, some of it is angry. However it goes beyond "My mom's a bitch who never gave me what I wanted and was always all cracked out and my girlfriend's just as bad."

I don't see the entertainment or depth in anything Eminem does. Like that I am song. I remember what a big deal that was and I thought it was whiny, boring and self righteous.

Dead · 08-03-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by The Light

Yeah, some of it is angry. However it goes beyond "My mom's a bitch who never gave me what I wanted and was always all cracked out and my girlfriend's just as bad."

Eminem goes beyond that as well.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Dead

I haven't listened extensively to those, and I know I would hate them a lot. And Eminem is a great rapper whether you like him or not. I'm not saying those guys are bad rappers, but I sure don't like them.

How do you know you would hate them? That doesn't make sense. If you hate rap other than Eminem I don't know why I'm bothering anyway. You have no idea how often I get into bottomless arguements with people who refuse to see past Eminem.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Dead

Eminem goes beyond that as well.

How? I really want to know. He is so transparent it's funny.

Dead · 08-03-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by The Light
How? I really want to know. He is so transparent it's funny.

Have you listened to his albums or just the singles?

Dead · 08-03-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by The Light
How do you know you would hate them? That doesn't make sense. If you hate rap other than Eminem I don't know why I'm bothering anyway. You have no idea how often I get into bottomless arguements with people who refuse to see past Eminem.

Cause I hate their voices and style and subject matter. How can I like the rest of their stuff? Unless they do other stuff that's completely different from what I've heard.

And I gave examples of other stuff I like besides Eminem so quit exaggerating.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey
it's just entertaining

he's consitently funny. and he frequently assumes characters and does these story songs...i mean, how is something like 'Stan' a typical rap song

i guess i shouldn't really be talking about this. i'm a white dude from the 'burbs, i don't know hip hop

Rza assumes other identities too. This is not unique to Eminem.

His skits and story songs just seem so full of modern pop culture references that it would be almost impossible for them to be relevant to a lot of people. This brings me right back to Public Enemy. For me it's all about having a message for everyone.

guz · 08-03-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by The Light
I don't see the entertainment or depth in anything Eminem does. Like that I am song. I remember what a big deal that was and I thought it was whiny, boring and self righteous.

this is how i feel about most of Pac's stuff.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Dead

Cause I hate their voices and style and subject matter. How can I like the rest of their stuff? Unless they do other stuff that's completely different from what I've heard.

And I gave examples of other stuff I like besides Eminem so quit exaggerating.

You're right, you did. I apologize.

To answer your question, I have listen to evrything of Eminem's aside form the most recent album. I would never assert such a strong opinion if I did not know his material. Listening to his music is what made my dislike so strong.

Um, I really hope you don't think I'm coming off as a bitch. I just love to argue about this kind of shit. But I need to ask: How can you like a whiny white asshole's voice over a voice like Method Man's?

I hope you will listen to Birth of a Prince by Rza. The whole thing,start to finish. And then we can talk about that.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey

I'm aware of that, I did just say that Dr. Octagon was my favorite rap album

it's just the way he does it. Songs like Guilty Conscience and Stan

I can't think of songs exactly like that. Funny songs about pop culture speak more to me than Public Enemy

i don't see how there's any one group that could have a message for EVERYONE

Well then you know what Eminem does has already been done in many ways.

I don't really understand. World issues speak more to me than pop culture issues. But more power to you.

sawdust restaurants · 08-03-2004, 02:58 PM

Yeah, seriously, all of you are fucking stupid and should just shut up and be white and listen to Sean Casey. Nigga knows what he's talking about.

sawdust restaurants · 08-03-2004, 03:00 PM

Don't be such a fucking pussy, Tasty.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 03:01 PM

There's nothing wrong with it. I'm the minority here. Eminem sold like ten hundred thousand million albums or whatever. Where I live a lot of people like him, also. I think I'm the one who doesn't get it.

I give Dre props for pimping the white bitch and Eminem props for actually being a white guy that sold that many albums but like I said, I don't even speak Eminem's language.

sawdust restaurants · 08-03-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Casey
Do u speak my language? http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/stastymusic.htm

Nobody speaks the language of a mental midget.

sawdust restaurants · 08-03-2004, 03:06 PM

What kind of shitty rapper backs down from a white boy? Come on, Tasty, fuck me up. I want you to come down here and try to fuck me up.

noyen · 08-03-2004, 03:07 PM

i'd only make u cry.

The Light · 08-03-2004, 03:07 PM

"When I stick my dick in their eager faces."

Hahahaha. That was entertaining at best.

08-03-2004, 02:25 PM	#32
cap'n jazz Socialphobic Location: FUCKING HELL Posts: 11,689	maynard

08-03-2004, 02:30 PM	#35
silent1 Minion of Satan Location: detroit, mi Posts: 7,158	lol. it's funny how em's name always get's brought up in ANY rap discussion. he's just a copy cat anyways! anyone ever hear of ESHAM?

08-03-2004, 02:39 PM	#41
SuckSuckStyle Socialphobic Location: you look like you like to hang out. you look like you like to hang out and drink soda Posts: 12,677	yeah but they're so different....but not politically. i went to see chuck D speak last march. it was really really good.

08-03-2004, 02:58 PM	#54
sawdust restaurants Fucking Creep Location: On the East Coast Posts: 5,992	Yeah, seriously, all of you are fucking stupid and should just shut up and be white and listen to Sean Casey. Nigga knows what he's talking about.

08-03-2004, 03:00 PM	#55
sawdust restaurants Fucking Creep Location: On the East Coast Posts: 5,992	Don't be such a fucking pussy, Tasty.

08-03-2004, 03:01 PM	#56
The Light Apocalyptic Poster Location: turn my headphones up man turn them shits up!!! Posts: 3,892	There's nothing wrong with it. I'm the minority here. Eminem sold like ten hundred thousand million albums or whatever. Where I live a lot of people like him, also. I think I'm the one who doesn't get it. I give Dre props for pimping the white bitch and Eminem props for actually being a white guy that sold that many albums but like I said, I don't even speak Eminem's language.

08-03-2004, 03:06 PM	#58
sawdust restaurants Fucking Creep Location: On the East Coast Posts: 5,992	What kind of shitty rapper backs down from a white boy? Come on, Tasty, fuck me up. I want you to come down here and try to fuck me up.

08-03-2004, 03:07 PM	#59
noyen Immortal Posts: 26,816	i'd only make u cry.