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Old 11-14-2002, 10:01 PM   #61
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look, even I understand your issues w. some Orthodox Jews. Try driving through some parts of Brooklyn on Saturday while trying not to get hit by a rock...

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:02 PM   #62
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that's a complete oversimplification of the matter but i'm not going into it.

i can't stand people of you.

go to hell, and while there, learn proper grammar...

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:08 PM   #63
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.but here you are, coming in here and starting a debate about israel. that's what the problem is. you don't get it? israel was created because of antisemitism. many opponents of israel USE antisemitism as leverage (ie blood libel). you can't just separate the issue. opposition to israel's policies is not ALWAYS anti-semitic but oftentimes opposition to israel is manifested by antisemitism.
umm. he didnt start the debate. he merely replied to a post where YOU *******d a definition that said antisemitism is being on the side of isreal's enemies.
and opposition to israel is created by antisemitism? how about a country that continues to expand its borders into another country all the while kicking people out of their homes and killing its citizens. yeah i think thats a better reason to oppose israel. please stop playing the antisemitic card when it comes to israel.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:11 PM   #64
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umm. he didnt start the debate. he merely replied to a post where YOU *******d a definition that said antisemitism is being on the side of isreal's enemies.
and opposition to israel is created by antisemitism? how about a country that continues to expand its borders into another country all the while kicking people out of their homes and killing its citizens. yeah i think thats a better reason to oppose israel. please stop playing the antisemitic card when it comes to israel.
hm. i never put anything about israel in any of my posts. maybe i linked to a site but i never saw that definition.

siraj, listen. i didn't say 'opposition to israel is created by antisemitism', i said 'people use antisemitism to fuel opposition to israel' or whatever, i don't know the correct term. the blood libel is being reperpetrated in countries with restricted medias. you can't deny that. you can't deny there is vicious antisemitism as we speak in many countries. but i do NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT ISRAEL.

it gets me so fucking mad that you cannot MENTION JEWS without people MENTIONING ISRAEL. jesus fucking christ.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:13 PM   #65
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hm. i never put anything about israel in any of my posts. maybe i linked to a site but i never saw that definition.

siraj, listen. i didn't say 'opposition to israel is created by antisemitism', i said 'people use antisemitism to fuel opposition to israel' or whatever, i don't know the correct term. the blood libel is being reperpetrated in countries with restricted medias. you can't deny that. you can't deny there is vicious antisemitism as we speak in many countries. but i do NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT ISRAEL.

it gets me so fucking mad that you cannot MENTION JEWS without people MENTIONING ISRAEL. jesus fucking christ.
again i didnt bring it up dumbshit. you did with that definition. and what i think is hilarious is you didnt even bother to read the definition you linked. you really are stupid arent you?

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:14 PM   #66
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please stop playing the antisemitic card when it comes to israel.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:17 PM   #67
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again i didnt bring it up dumbshit. you did with that definition. and what i think is hilarious is you didnt even bother to read the definition you linked. you really are stupid arent you?
i didn't bring it up. kypper brought it up. i wasn't referring to you. i did read the definitions and i didn't see anything about israel. but as i said i was pressed for time. i most certainly wouldn't have *******d it if it had said anything about israel. i have no desire whatsoever to turn this into a discussion about israel. if the definitions mentioned israel then it's a mistake and it's just kypper's problem for being canadian.

 
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excuse me, but once again i never fucking mentioned israel. the FIRST person to mention israel at ALL in this thread was kypper. NOT ME.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:19 PM   #69
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if the definitions mentioned israel then it's a mistake and it's just kypper's problem for being canadian.
my list continues to grow by the second!

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:21 PM   #70
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anyways, the word 'zionism' is an often-skewed meeting. the UN stated in the 70s that 'zionism is racism'. since then the un has apologized for this. many people hold that that un statement was an antisemitic statement. so when that definition referred to 'opposition to zionism' it was referring to statements equating zionism to racism.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:21 PM   #71
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excuse me, but once again i never fucking mentioned israel. the FIRST person to mention israel at ALL in this thread was kypper. NOT ME.
no. again due to your stupidity you brought it up in that definition without realizing it. kypper merely responded to what he thought was your earnest attempt to ******* israel in this argument. he cant be blamed for your mistakes.
i swear. julio are you watching this?

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:23 PM   #72
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my list continues to grow by the second!
okay, whatever siraj. i'm sorry you don't realize that i'm not the one who fucking brought up israel, that it was kypper who brought up israel, and if i happened to link to a site quoting the MIRIAM WEBSTER DICTIONARY -- hey, why don't you bring up your grievance with the miriam webster dictionary. the site was basically, as i said before, trying to imply that there are many different 'types' or 'manifestations' of anti-semitism and it *******d definitions from many different sources, including the meriam-webster dictionary. it also quoted jean-paul sartre. are you going to blame me for posting a link that quoted something that someone else said? i would call that guilt by third-degree association or something.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:25 PM   #73
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no. again due to your stupidity you brought it up in that definition without realizing it. kypper merely responded to what he thought was your earnest attempt to ******* israel in this argument. he cant be blamed for your mistakes.
i swear. julio are you watching this?
i seriously doubt kypper thought i had an earnest attempt to ******* israel in my argument. there's no reason to believe it. i posted a link that mentioned among many other definitions a slight reference to israel. i hardly think that merits me bringing up israel. you people brought it up. don't fucking blame me. maybe it's not my problem that you can't go to any fucking website that can't mention 'israel' or 'zionism' whenever it mentions the word 'jew'. it's not my fucking problem people have those to things linked in their head. and as i said i wasn't going to go out of my way to find the one website that didn't mention israel when it talked about anti-semitism. you find a website that doesn't mention israel when it talks about anti-semitism and i'll give you a present.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:31 PM   #74
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i seriously doubt kypper thought i had an earnest attempt to ******* israel in my argument. there's no reason to believe it. i posted a link that mentioned among many other definitions a slight reference to israel. i hardly think that merits me bringing up israel. you people brought it up. don't fucking blame me. maybe it's not my problem that you can't go to any fucking website that can't mention 'israel' or 'zionism' whenever it mentions the word 'jew'. it's not my fucking problem people have those to things linked in their head. and as i said i wasn't going to go out of my way to find the one website that didn't mention israel when it talked about anti-semitism. you find a website that doesn't mention israel when it talks about anti-semitism and i'll give you a present.
youre seriously a fucking stupid bitch. you posted the link. you brought it up. you were the first one!!! and the fact that you didnt even know you brought it up makes all the more stupid.i cant believe this. you really are dumb. i mean, its totally beyond me why anyone would think otherwise.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:33 PM   #75
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youre seriously a fucking stupid bitch.
I think she needs to breathe slowly, calm down, and admit that to herself...

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:34 PM   #76
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youre seriously a fucking stupid bitch. you posted the link. you brought it up. you were the first one!!! and the fact that you didnt even know you brought it up makes all the more stupid.i cant believe this. you really are dumb. i mean, its totally beyond me why anyone would think otherwise.
i'm dumb for assuming that people wouldn't be so obnoxious and annoying to beat a dead horse and mentiono israel when there was no desire to mention israel? you mean if i post a link to a website i'm suddenly responsible for every piece of information contained on the website? exactly how did i bring it up when i didn't even mention the word 'israel' in any of my posts. it's pretty obvious this thread had nothing to do with israel. i did NOT bring it up. it's not my fault if some website happened to post a quote by some VERY COMMON DICTIONARY making a reference to anti-zionism. it's not my fault.

 
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I think she needs to breathe slowly, calm down, and admit that to herself...
lol. breathe slowly? calm down? admit what to myself? that you're an obnoxious little boy? i could probably squish you like a little roach if you were here.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:36 PM   #78
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i'm dumb for assuming that people wouldn't be so obnoxious and annoying to beat a dead horse and mentiono israel when there was no desire to mention israel? you mean if i post a link to a website i'm suddenly responsible for every piece of information contained on the website? exactly how did i bring it up when i didn't even mention the word 'israel' in any of my posts. it's pretty obvious this thread had nothing to do with israel. i did NOT bring it up. it's not my fault if some website happened to post a quote by some VERY COMMON DICTIONARY making a reference to anti-zionism. it's not my fault.
youre stupid for blaming someone/everyone else (something you usually do i might add) for something you clearly did. youre still not taking responsibility. youre going on about how some dicitionary author mentioned israel in your definition. what you seem to be forgetting is you *******d the goddamn link.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:37 PM   #79
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lol. breathe slowly? calm down? admit what to myself? that you're an obnoxious little boy? i could probably squish you like a little roach if you were here.
no, but i bet you could make him drill a black & decker through his skull

 
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youre stupid for blaming someone/everyone else (something you usually do i might add) for something you clearly did. youre still not taking responsibility. youre going on about how some dicitionary author mentioned israel in your definition. what you seem to be forgetting is you *******d the goddamn link.
i'm not taking responsibility? didn't i say 'if i *******d the link then it was a mistake' ?? listen. if you think i'm the reason israel was mentioned then you're wrong. i think there was some topic started awhile ago about antisemitism in which no one mentioned israel or even made a link to some website that maybe mentioned israel anywhere, and still kypper came in here and made some long post about how anti-zionism is not anti-semitism. the whole reason he replied in the first place is because he wanted to talk about israel. it's not my fault. if i hadn't posted the link he would have posted about it anyways.

and as i said before, just because the website happened to reference israel is no reason for kypper to reply fucking talking about it anyways. it's obvious this thread had nothing whatsoever to do with israel. therefore his reply to the thread is absolutely unnecessary. it's about dave and how he says he doesn't like jews yet he insists he's not an anti-semite. you tell me what that has to do with israel and maybe you have a point.

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:45 PM   #81
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zionists are racist. the biggest of them all too.

 
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and anyways, it's an interesting definition to think about.

here's another link with a thousand more quotes and shit. not that i agree with the website. i should put a disclaimer. i just thought they were interesting things to read and if you read them and get mad then don't yell at me because i didn't write them, i'm just linking it.

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/antizionism.html#whatis

 
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zionists are racist. the biggest of them all too.
zionists are racists? are people who are proud of their russian heritage racist too?

 
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:50 PM   #85
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oh nevermind. here we go again. i knew it. you can't fucking mention jews without mentioning israel. and even if i did technically provide the fuel -- the link to a website that mentioned israel -- then it still is just proof that netphorians will use any excuse to talk about israel whenever jews are mentioned. it's absolutely pathetic.

 
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I give up on you people. You don't even care about the real issue. You just want to argue over petty shit and hear yourselves talk.

 
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Now watch once again as the flame war conveniently curves itself around my comments.

 
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I give up on you people. You don't even care about the real issue. You just want to argue over petty shit and hear yourselves talk.
i hope you're referring to them and not me because if you are i agree with you

 
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i hope you're referring to them and not me because if you are i agree with you
I essentially am referring to them but I think you tend to engage them in the kind of argument they want and help perpetuate it.

 
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