Looks like there really isn't proof of Jesus, is there Suze?

Affect · 11-07-2002, 02:41 PM

You fucking moron.

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ammy · 11-07-2002, 02:43 PM

i'm probably making an ignorant remark here.. wait no I am, i know NOTHING of biblical history... but anyway..

doesn't that just prove that he was not the brother of jesus? not the lack of jesus's existance?

Affect · 11-07-2002, 03:01 PM

Proof? Other than the good book?

Samsa · 11-07-2002, 03:11 PM

excuse me?

lucky_13 · 11-07-2002, 03:15 PM

your using that one article on that one thing as your proof there was no jesus?

Affect · 11-07-2002, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by lucky_13
your using that one article on that one thing as your proof there was no jesus?

You need a little background on this first. Suze posted an article entitled "Proof of Jesus Found!!!" This is a counter post, dear.

Samsa · 11-07-2002, 03:30 PM

oh lol. i think i posted that subject title because that was the headline of the article or something. but i honestly don't remember. oooooook

Affect · 11-07-2002, 03:32 PM

OKAY???/

Samsa · 11-07-2002, 03:33 PM

um. there's something wrong with you if you seriously thought i was really that excited that they found a box that said 'jacob, son of joseph, brother of jesus' on it.

Affect · 11-07-2002, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Samsa
um. there's something wrong with you if you seriously thought i was really that excited that they found a box that said 'jacob, son of joseph, brother of jesus' on it.

Come on. Plenty of other things less important than that get you off. You're a trick like that.

Samsa · 11-07-2002, 04:00 PM

well i thought it was pretty kewl and shit but it's not like i really have/had much of a stake in it. it was more like an objective interest or what have you. and if anything that subject title was tongue-in-cheek or jocular or something (sorry for stating the obvious).

Samsa · 11-07-2002, 04:01 PM

and anyways regardless of the authenticity of that stone box it's in my opinion more definite than not that jesus existed.

sarmatianus · 11-07-2002, 04:11 PM

Even if that ossuary was genuine, it wouldn't provide any more proof than not. It's like finding an American grave that says "Tom, son of Dick, brother of Harry". Very common names.

Still, it makes you think - assuming this new report is true, there still is, as of yet, no contemporaneous archaeological or historical evidence of Jesus.

Hmm.

noir cat · 11-08-2002, 01:37 AM

I thought Judiasm excludes Jesus. They didn't like him or something?

jenn · 11-08-2002, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by undivinemartyr
I thought Judiasm excludes Jesus. They didn't like him or something?

most jews see christ as another prophet...but then there is that entire sect of so-called jews who use the title "jews for jesus"...i think they're just christians in denial though.

Samsa · 11-08-2002, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by undivinemartyr
I thought Judiasm excludes Jesus. They didn't like him or something?

most jews view jesus as a 'wise man' or you know. a reformer of the synagogue, and they don't think he was trying to start his own religion but just to fix the one he was born into. some jews see him as a blasphemer or whatever.

noir cat · 11-08-2002, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Samsa

most jews view jesus as a 'wise man' or you know. a reformer of the synagogue, and they don't think he was trying to start his own religion but just to fix the one he was born into. some jews see him as a blasphemer or whatever.

K. But they don't believe that he is the son of God. ?. Yes. ?.

Ihaman · 11-08-2002, 01:50 AM

can someone explain how jesus was a jew?

..how?

Samsa · 11-08-2002, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Ihaman
can someone explain how jesus was a jew?

..how?

his mum was a jew

Samsa · 11-08-2002, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Samsa

his mum was a jew

the last supper was a passover seder

am i right?

Irrelevant · 11-08-2002, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by Ihaman
can someone explain how jesus was a jew?

..how?

as i understand it, christ didn't seek to establish a new religion, but rather reform judaism.

Lie · 11-08-2002, 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by Samsa

the last supper was a passover seder

am i right?

I believe so, yeah.

Irrelevant · 11-08-2002, 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by Irrelevant

as i understand it, christ didn't seek to establish a new religion, but rather reform judaism.

oh wait suze already said that. but from a secular point of view, i agree with her.

Samsa · 11-08-2002, 03:27 AM

a secular point of view? what the fuck?

Irrelevant · 11-08-2002, 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by Samsa
a secular point of view? what the fuck?

when did you get so dumb?

Samsa · 11-08-2002, 03:41 AM

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Originally posted by Irrelevant

when did you get so dumb?

care to elaborate on that? you agree with me on a secular point of view? i don't fucking understand. why don't you elaborate on that.

Samsa · 11-08-2002, 03:43 AM

i wasn't aware 'jesus wanted to reform judaism' carried a religious bias

hereisnowhy · 11-08-2002, 03:44 AM

Am I the only one who doesn't understand how Jesus could have had a brother? Wasn't he an only son?!

Irrelevant · 11-08-2002, 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by Samsa
care to elaborate on that? you agree with me on a secular point of view? i don't fucking understand. why don't you elaborate on that.

i mean: you gave the jewish viewpoint of jesus's intentions, and i think that a secular review of what jesus said would reach the same conclusion as to his intentions. so from a secular viewpoint, i agree, as opposed to speaking from a jewish viewpoint.

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11-07-2002, 02:43 PM	#2
ammy yer mom Posts: 23,180	i'm probably making an ignorant remark here.. wait no I am, i know NOTHING of biblical history... but anyway.. doesn't that just prove that he was not the brother of jesus? not the lack of jesus's existance?

11-07-2002, 03:01 PM	#3
Affect Fuck Location: xxx Posts: 5,360	Proof? Other than the good book?

11-07-2002, 03:11 PM	#4
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	excuse me?

11-07-2002, 03:15 PM	#5
lucky_13 Apocalyptic Poster Location: for joke! Posts: 2,235	your using that one article on that one thing as your proof there was no jesus?

11-07-2002, 03:30 PM	#7
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	oh lol. i think i posted that subject title because that was the headline of the article or something. but i honestly don't remember. oooooook

11-07-2002, 03:32 PM	#8
Affect Fuck Location: xxx Posts: 5,360	OKAY???/

11-07-2002, 03:33 PM	#9
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	um. there's something wrong with you if you seriously thought i was really that excited that they found a box that said 'jacob, son of joseph, brother of jesus' on it.

11-07-2002, 04:00 PM	#11
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	well i thought it was pretty kewl and shit but it's not like i really have/had much of a stake in it. it was more like an objective interest or what have you. and if anything that subject title was tongue-in-cheek or jocular or something (sorry for stating the obvious).

11-07-2002, 04:01 PM	#12
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	and anyways regardless of the authenticity of that stone box it's in my opinion more definite than not that jesus existed.

11-07-2002, 04:11 PM	#13
sarmatianus Apocalyptic Poster Location: Charm City Posts: 1,033	Even if that ossuary was genuine, it wouldn't provide any more proof than not. It's like finding an American grave that says "Tom, son of Dick, brother of Harry". Very common names. Still, it makes you think - assuming this new report is true, there still is, as of yet, no contemporaneous archaeological or historical evidence of Jesus. Hmm.

11-08-2002, 01:37 AM	#14
noir cat Socialphobic Location: Hicksville, NY Posts: 11,699	I thought Judiasm excludes Jesus. They didn't like him or something?

11-08-2002, 01:50 AM	#18
Ihaman Sometimes, though. Location: Hazard, California Posts: 21,274	can someone explain how jesus was a jew? ..how?

11-08-2002, 03:27 AM	#24
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	a secular point of view? what the fuck?

11-08-2002, 03:43 AM	#27
Samsa Banned Location: A theater near you Posts: 7,929	i wasn't aware 'jesus wanted to reform judaism' carried a religious bias

11-08-2002, 03:44 AM	#28
hereisnowhy Minion of Satan Posts: 7,621	Am I the only one who doesn't understand how Jesus could have had a brother? Wasn't he an only son?!

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