Reps will have at least 51 seats :)

[tear stained glass]

Originally posted by Salena Child
the economy started slipping while clinton was in office. when bush came in he got stuck with the shit that the previous administration had left. now he is left cleaning up the mess. so i do believe that the republicans can turn our situation around. like i said earlier.

Don't you think the Enron scandal and all that stuff had a teency weency effect on the economy? And who was involved with Enron? Bush.

[cozmic]

GOOD GRIEF PEOPLE. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

Go get laid or something.

I seriously don't think you're getting enough poontang.

[killed radio star]

Originally posted by cozmic
GOOD GRIEF PEOPLE. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

Go get laid or something.

I seriously don't think you're getting enough poontang.

face it though, this is pretty important.

How can you bed-wetting liberals look in the mirror and honestly tell yourslef George W. Bush is responsible for the economic problems. Let's see, Clinton was in office from Jan 93 to Jan 01, the economy started slipping in the middle of 01 at the latest and that is Bush's fault.

I admit, I don't know enough about politics to piece together much of an argument on how the economy is Clinton's fault other than to say that it is more logical to blame it on Clinton since he was in office when the seeds of economic ruin were sown.

Explain to me how Bush caused the economic problems and I'll shut the freak up.

I'm about to majorly digress....

CAN I GET A MOTHERFUCKING HELL YEAH FOR THE NEXT SENATOR FROM THE LAND OF 10,000 LAKES. THAT'S RIGHT LIBERALS. NO PAUL WELLSTONE (HE'S DEAD AS DIRT - PROBABLY FROM THE KARMA OF RUNNING ON A TERM-LIMITS CAMPAIGN THEN ATTEMPTING TO RUN FOR A THIRD TERM WHICH HE SAID SENATORS SHOULDN'T DO). NO GRANDPA FRITZ. NO CRAZY INDEPENDENTS. NO NO NO NO NO. NORM MOTHERFUCKING COLEMAN WILL BE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR INTERESTS IN WASHINGTON. OH I'M PROUD TO BE A MINNESOTAN TONIGHT!

Whew. I feel better now.

[killed radio star]

anyone think the whole economic crisis could've been flared by the nice little problem we had with actually deciding who was president after clinton?

Originally posted by killed radio star
anyone think the whole economic crisis could've been flared by the nice little problem we had with actually deciding who was president after clinton?

No. That lasted all of a couple months. Corporate America was obviously happy at the mere possibility of Dubya gaining control of the White House. Sure it held things in limbo. But for Corporate America, limbo is a better place than Clinton or Gore in control.

[skippy]

When CNN just announced that the Republicans have taken control of the Senate, I could actually hear Darth Vadar's theme in my head. Heh.

Originally posted by killtheyouth


That's completely ignorant. Clinton did nothing to impede corporate America. He fucking campaigned as a free market free trade Democrat. Thats republican economic policy right there.

You're giving Clinton way too much credit. Besides if the election nightmare caused the economic crisis it wouldn't have anything to do with Clinton. I was just saying that Corporate America was looking forward to Bush after 8 years of Clinton. That's a true statement, so you're the ignorant one. Besides Gore certainly did not campaign as free market free trade Democrat. Remember, Gore said "I'm my own man." (Of course he also told Bill to go campaign for him but tell the people "I'm my own man.")

[Gore is the President]

yep, looks like the republicans have once again cheated their way into total control of the United States. time to start looking for apartments in canada. what is the best canadian city to live in right now?

[skippy]

Originally posted by Gore is the President
yep, looks like the republicans have once again cheated their way into total control of the United States. time to start looking for apartments in canada. what is the best canadian city to live in right now?

Alec Baldwin is that you?

Originally posted by Gore is the President
yep, looks like the republicans have once again cheated their way into total control of the United States. time to start looking for apartments in canada. what is the best canadian city to live in right now?

I'm assuming your a bone-smoker so you can't go wrong with Vancouver.

If you wanna go get a good piece of ass, head on up to Ottawa because I heard that Smiley will break Netphorian males off some since Kypper can no longer get it up.

[Salena Child]

um the economy was showing signs of decline in 2000 while your beloved clinton was still in office. so it wouldn't have mattered if gore or bush was in office. bush is getting blamed because he happens to be the president. so it's unfair to blame bush. it could have been anyone's burden.

Originally posted by Salena Child
um the economy was showing signs of decline in 2000 while your beloved clinton was still in office. so it wouldn't have mattered if gore or bush was in office. bush is getting blamed because he happens to be the president. so it's unfair to blame bush. it could have been anyone's burden.

Peep this fool: The president alone has very little command over the economy. But the fact that he sucks the dick of big money corporations doesn't help us much.

[Irrelevant]

the economy fluctuates. big deal. it happens indiscriminately.

the big deal here is of course civil liberties. i'd say things look grim for the next two years.

[cozmic]

Originally posted by killtheyouth


i take comfort in the fact that you are as ugly as you are dumb. there just might be some justice left in the world.

good lord. some decency, please?

[Salena Child]

Originally posted by Mr. Rhinoceros


Peep this fool: The president alone has very little command over the economy. But the fact that he sucks the dick of big money corporations doesn't help us much.

if that is the case then why do dumb people such as yourself continue to blame him? that's all you liberals do is blame bush for everything. you don't have any actual evidence to support any of the shit you just said so you just make stuff up.

[Irrelevant]

Originally posted by Salena Child
if that is the case then why do dumb people such as yourself continue to blame him? that's all you liberals do is blame bush for everything. you don't have any actual evidence to support any of the shit you just said so you just make stuff up.

why do conservatives blame clinton for everything?

blame blame blame blah blah blah.

everyone is wrong.

[beef curtains]

Originally posted by Irrelevant


why do conservatives blame clinton for everything?

blame blame blame blah blah blah.

everyone is wrong.

conservatives blame clinton, democrats go "YOU FUCKING MORON BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH"

I'd say its about even.
That's why i voted libertarian

[beef curtains]

Oh yeah, and anyone (over 18) who didn't vote today should fucking shut their mouth up.

Originally posted by Salena Child


if that is the case then why do dumb people such as yourself continue to blame him? that's all you liberals do is blame bush for everything. you don't have any actual evidence to support any of the shit you just said so you just make stuff up.

I didn't make up shit. You just don't read anything, bitch. I don't blame him for anything, I just know his economic policy insures that the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer and that corruption runs rampant on Wall Street and in politics.

I think it's interesting that you think I'm making up lies. All this Enron stuff: TRUE. Look it up. I don't even know all the slimy details off hand. Go to google and search for "+cheaney +enron".

[Homerpalooza]

Originally posted by The Ace of Aces
NORM MOTHERFUCKING COLEMAN WILL BE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR INTERESTS IN WASHINGTON. OH I'M PROUD TO BE A MINNESOTAN TONIGHT!

As of right now (12:02 PDT) that race is still too close to call. It's 50% to 47%, but only 56% of precincts have reported. Then again, I'm getting this from MSNBC, so who knows what's really going on.

Originally posted by Homerpalooza


As of right now (12:02 PDT) that race is still too close to call. It's 50% to 47%, but only 56% of precincts have reported. Then again, I'm getting this from MSNBC, so who knows what's really going on.

Dood. I know. It was 53-45 Coleman when I opened my big fat ignorant mouth. I love election nights though. As pathetic as it may be, I will be waiting this out until Coleman proclaims victory.

Mondale really isn't that bad though. He clearly knows MN. I just don't agree with the DFL agenda. Mainly because it completely clashes with my family's agenda. I was just set on Coleman before the whole Wellstone plane crash.

Originally posted by Irrelevant
the big deal here is of course civil liberties.

I love it when you liberals throw around whatever the phrase of the day. This year it's "civil liberties."

What "civil liberties" are you actually worried about Republicans taking from you?

If Democrats were so concerned about civil liberties, why did the candidates not make that a major issue during this year's election?

[BlueStar]

Originally posted by Salena Child

the budget, dealing with the war on terrorism and improving our economy.

This is going to make all of those things WORSE.

And MSNBC is being cautious...they still have the Repubs at 49 seats.

The bright side of all this... The chances of a backlash in 2004 are very likely...Democrat for president. And now the chances of Gephardt and Daschle seeking the Democratic nomination are significantly greater.

I'm scared for what it is going to happen.

[BlueStar]

Originally posted by The Ace of Aces


If Democrats were so concerned about civil liberties, why did the candidates not make that a major issue during this year's election?

Democrats are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can't come across as being too against the president and against the war. And if they vote against the tax cuts, they will be seen as "raising taxes". etc., etc., etc. Things are weird right now. And I think the Dems are being overly cautious...they are all thinking too much about the presidency in 2004.

Originally posted by BlueStar

And now the chances of .... Daschle seeking the Democratic nomination are significantly greater.

LMFAO. Dashcle is done on the national level. Fair or not, his popularity has taken the biggest hit since 9-11 of any major political figure in the U.S. The fact that the South Dakota Democrat candidate will be lucky just to eek out a victory should tell you somethign about Daschle.

Maybe Gephart though.

Gephart and John Edwards may not have the balls to run against W. if things proceed as they have been. Daschle has the balls at least.

Daschle will defintely seek the nomination, but if things don't change soon, I don't see how he can beat Bush.

Gore still looks like the best candidate to me, especially if he comes out speaking his mind. Representing the truly left-side of things and not the center. The Republicans have cornered the market on the political center. How, I'll never understand.

[BlueStar]

Originally posted by The Ace of Aces

Gephart and John Edwards may not have the balls to run against W. if things proceed as they have been. Daschle has the balls at least.

Daschle has been one of the loudest voices of dissent/against the president. 2004 is two years away. It is impossible to predict. However, I do believe that the Democrat mantra will be, once again, "it's the economy stupid". And, once again, I do believe that a war with Iraq will cost a Bush the presidency. And I think the two front runners for the Dem nomination for 2004 are John Edwards and John Kerry (but Gephardt, Daschle, Gore, and Clinton cannot be counted out). These next two years are going to be really interesting.

[Homerpalooza]

Originally posted by The Ace of Aces


Dood. I know. It was 53-45 Coleman when I opened my big fat ignorant mouth. I love election nights though. As pathetic as it may be, I will be waiting this out until Coleman proclaims victory.

Mondale really isn't that bad though. He clearly knows MN. I just don't agree with the DFL agenda. Mainly because it completely clashes with my family's agenda. I was just set on Coleman before the whole Wellstone plane crash.

Dood. Ok.

[The Omega Concern]

i think there's a much stronger case that current Democrats are far more fascist in nature then Republicans, which is saying a lot. But, Cedric the Entertainer exposed the fallacy that minorities are monolithic in their political thought. That Barbershop scene had the guts to show this and the resulting cries for censorship from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton is evidence to my initial statement (y'all might wanna try something other than boring statistics for political persuasion).

Moreover, and more importantly, the Democratic party is in need of, and slowly getting, a purge. Its a faction of elitist anymore driven by a demogogic ethic that stands for mainly negative ideas.

That political rally in Minnesota that was supposed to be a memorial of someones life exposed a big part of the Democratic party that needs to be purged. Clinton needs to fade away and be gone or the Party will continue to be in disarray (nice Florida strategy). He hasnt done that yet. He probably won't. The Factioned Dems continue to drink his coolade, and the liberals still see nothing but red and blame Bush from reflex. *shakes head* Bush got the mandate today that he didnt get in the election of 2000. All things considered, I tend to think that's a good thing. But dont hold to it...:P