Iowa Update Thread Here

[beef curtains]

Originally posted by Pumpkins23836
Is that a typo? Seriously?

Good god you're irritating

[Netphorian Gadabout]

Originally posted by So very sad about me


Good god you're irritating

Good god your mother is a whore.

[Mayfuck]

Originally posted by So very sad about me


Good god you're irritating

Actually that's the only sense that troll has made in this thread. GOP too far left? I don't want to think of what Nimrod's idea of too far right is.

Gephardt dropped out. No one care.

[sppunk]

Democratic primary dates:

January
• 1/19: Iowa Caucuses
• 1/27: New Hampshire Primary
• 1/31: Delaware "non-binding" Primary


February
• 2/03: South Carolina Primary
• 2/03: Missouri Primary
• 2/03: Arizona Primary
• 2/03: Washington Primary
• 2/07: Michigan Caucuses
• 2/10: Virginia Primary
• 2/17: Oklahoma Primary
• 2/24: Michigan Primary

March
• 3/02: Super Tuesday (Much of the NE, New York, and California)
• 3/09: Super Tuesday, Florida, Texas, and the South)

[sawdust restaurants]

Originally posted by sppunk
Dean shot himself in Iowa, but not NH and not NM. His ads have been running in NH, he's still a favorite there. NH is in a week ... Edwards has little if any support there currently, it'lll be a long shot for him to finish in the top 3.

So, let's say Clark upsets everyoen and Dean finishes in 2nd, Kerry in 3rd and Edwards in 4th. What happens then?

1. Yes, he's still a favorite, but like I said, his numbers are dropping like third-class passengers on the Titanic. You're just being silly if you think his comments in Ia aren't going to affect New Hampshire and New Mexico. Yes, NH is an entirely different realm, but stupidity is universal.

2. Pay attention to polls. Edwards' support has been rising very quickly, as has Kerry's. Their rise there basically coincided with their rise in Iowa.

3. I don't think that's going to happen. But if it does, get ready for a dogfight on Feb. 3 among the four of them. Whoever emerges from that will have a huge head of steam for the rest of the campaign. Obviously, the key state there is SC. If Edwards loses that, he's gone, and so is Clark's biggest competition in the South.

[Netphorian Gadabout]

Originally posted by Mayfuck


Actually that's the only sense that troll has made in this thread.

Thank you. (I'll take what I can get.)

[mpp]

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son [B/]
Basically, the GOP is generally too far left for me. [/b]

they really have gotten a lot more liberal over the past few months

that immigration thing has got to bug the hell out of you, eh?

[beef curtains]

Originally posted by Mayfuck


Actually that's the only sense that troll has made in this thread. GOP too far left? I don't want to think of what Nimrod's idea of too far right is.

Gephardt dropped out. No one care.

he's been *GASP*ing throughout the whole thread and to be like "is that a typo?" when Nimrod clearly wasn't is just a bit OTT (OVER THE TOP)
He's just looking to start some sort of vague, non fact based, insult slinging argument. All the rest of us liberals and conservatives just wanna be friends!

[mpp]

Originally posted by Mayfuck


I don't want to think of what Nimrod's idea of too far right is.

somewhere out to the right of hitler from what i can see

[Netphorian Gadabout]

Originally posted by So very sad about me


he's been *GASP*ing throughout the whole thread and to be like "is that a typo?" when Nimrod clearly wasn't is just a bit OTT (OVER THE TOP)

I legitimately didn't know if he was trying to be over the top or mistyped and meant to say the DNP was too far left for him.

Originally posted by So very sad about me
All the rest of us liberals and conservatives just wanna be friends!

I think the leftwing needs alot more mudslinging. This "we're all working for the good of the country, the republicans just think differently" bullshit is just that. Right wingers have hatemongers like Ann Coultier, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, etc - we need someone to call them hateful racists and murderers to balance things out. Al Frakken is the closest thing we've got.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally posted by mpp


they really have gotten a lot more liberal over the past few months

that immigration thing has got to bug the hell out of you, eh?

That as well as expanding social programs, increased spending of new programs (that aren't traditionally conservative) and the corporate welfare are prime examples. There are some Republicans I like, and in general I trust them a lot more than the Dems, but there are very few "Goldwater Republicans" anymore.

[mpp]

Originally posted by sawdust restaurants


Obviously, the key state there is SC. If Edwards loses that, he's gone, and so is Clark's biggest competition in the South.

Edwards will win SC.

[mpp]

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
There are some Republicans I like, and in general I trust them a lot more than the Dems, but there are very few "Goldwater Republicans" anymore.

If I had your views, I'd share the same sentiments.

It's interesting that I think I can understand where you're coming from, but I don't think you can even entertain the thoughts in my mind. Not b/c you're a dumbass but because you're so out there on the political spectrum. But maybe I'm wrong about you Nimrod.

[sawdust restaurants]

Originally posted by mpp
Edwards will win SC.

I think so, too, but a lot of that depends on NH. If Clark runs really strong there, he has a very good shot at it.

[sppunk]

Originally posted by sawdust restaurants


1. Yes, he's still a favorite, but like I said, his numbers are dropping like third-class passengers on the Titanic. You're just being silly if you think his comments in Ia aren't going to affect New Hampshire and New Mexico. Yes, NH is an entirely different realm, but stupidity is universal.

2. Pay attention to polls. Edwards' support has been rising very quickly, as has Kerry's. Their rise there basically coincided with their rise in Iowa.

3. I don't think that's going to happen. But if it does, get ready for a dogfight on Feb. 3 among the four of them. Whoever emerges from that will have a huge head of steam for the rest of the campaign. Obviously, the key state there is SC. If Edwards loses that, he's gone, and so is Clark's biggest competition in the South.

I agree with just about everything you wrote. I will make a few comments out of the sake of just babbling:

Kerry and Edwards have done really well in the past two weeks ... but you saw Dean fall flat and without any known support in the Northeast, California and Michigan, Edwards really has an uphill battle. He can possibly do it, but I don't see it happening. Kerry and Dean have that broad support, and the money to strengthen themselves.

I don't see that circumstance with Clark and Edwards happening, but NH will be interesting, and 2nd place in SC will be interesting. But, it will go down to the first Super Tuesday, with I believe those four battling just like they were this past weekend.

If Edwards drops quickly, Clark becomes a very formidable opponent.

[sawdust restaurants]

And someone on CNN just pointed something out that I've yet to point out: Saddam Hussein's capture gave Dean a major hit, for reasons that should be obvious.

[sppunk]

Originally posted by sawdust restaurants
And someone on CNN just pointed something out that I've yet to point out: Saddam Hussein's capture gave Dean a major hit, for reasons that should be obvious.

Yeah, but another point, again, is money and how much the campaigns have. Of course Dean and Kerry are loaded, but Edwards has little left in Iowa. I wonder how much will come in now and how much Clark will have after his campout in NH.

[Netphorian Gadabout]

I think Dean's "hit" came not so much from the Saddam thing, or even the "attack" thing, but from the fact he set himself up as this darkhorse, new age, not from Washington candidate with all this synergy and new ideas, and then all these inside Washington types like Gore and others like 10 days ago gave him their support publicly. This made Dean look exactly like what he was claiming not to be, and it was then that his drop started to come in the polls.

[Jaggie]

I'm voting Reagan!

http://www.ronaldreagan.com/images/title_main2.jpg

[sppunk]

Originally posted by Jaggie
I'm voting Reagan!

http://www.ronaldreagan.com/images/title_main2.jpg

I'm sorry.

[sppunk]

Another interesting tidbit:

BC-US-Deleg-Sum,100
By The Associated Press
The current breakdown of the presidential preferences of delegates to the Democratic and Republican national conventions. The numbers are based on party and state rules, delegate interviews and analysis of election results by The Associated Press. The first column shows the delegate total for each candidate; the others show delegates gained or lost during the last day, week and month.
DEMOCRATIC
Changes
Total Monday 7days 30days
Dean 100 ***00 ***00 ***00
Clark 29 +29 +29 +29
Kerry 62 +62 +62 +62
Lieberman 25 +25 +25 +25
Gephardt 59 +59 +59 +59
Edwards 21 +21 +21 +21
Kucinich 2 +2 +2 +2
Sharpton 4 +4 +4 +4
Other 1 *** *** ***
Uncommitted 0 0 0 0

Needed to nominate 2162
Total Delegate Votes 4322

Chosen thus far 303
Yet to be chosen 4,019

REPUBLICAN
Total Changes
Monday 7days 30days
Bush 0 0 0 0
Other 0 0 0 0
Uncommitted 0 0 0 0

Needed to nominate 1255
Total Delegate Votes 2509

Chosen thus far 0
Yet to be chosen 2,509

[mpp]

hell if clark gets the nomination, i might as well flip a fucking coin to see who i'm going to vote for

i don't vote for a person just b/c they call themselves a democrat



oh and dean is a complete nut - i can't believe anyone would vote for him - he sounded and looked like an idiot in his speech in des moines tonight - what a loser

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by mpp

oh and dean is a complete nut - i can't believe anyone would vote for him - he sounded and looked like an idiot in his speech in des moines tonight - what a loser

Yes. I can't wait for The Daily Show to get ahold of that one.

[sppunk]

Originally posted by mpp

oh and dean is a complete nut - i can't believe anyone would vote for him - he sounded and looked like an idiot in his speech in des moines tonight - what a loser

I call it passion.

[mpp]

Originally posted by sppunk


I call it passion.

maybe you're joking, maybe you're not

i'll respond as if you aren't joking:


you're a fucking nut; he's so fucking transparent; passion is what edwards had when he thanked gephardt for the great job he did; passion is not naming states one after the other and shouting like a lunatic

[BlueStar]

WE kicked Dean's fucking ass!!!!! I delivered all 5 of my counties and ALL the precincts in those counties!! I got my job done!!! Rural Iowa went for fucking Edwards!!!!!!! Gephardt and Dean weren't even viable in a lot of my areas!!!!

[Jaggie]

Originally posted by BlueStar
WE kicked Dean's fucking ass!!!!! I delivered all 5 of my counties and ALL the precincts in those counties!! I got my job done!!! Rural Iowa went for fucking Edwards!!!!!!! Gephardt and Dean weren't even viable in a lot of my areas!!!!

Congrats to you, job well done. Did anyone ever say that your candidate looks like John Ritter?

[sppunk]

Originally posted by BlueStar
WE kicked Dean's fucking ass!!!!! I delivered all 5 of my counties and ALL the precincts in those counties!! I got my job done!!! Rural Iowa went for fucking Edwards!!!!!!! Gephardt and Dean weren't even viable in a lot of my areas!!!!

Next stop: Urban New Hampshire.

[killed radio star]

Originally posted by Jaggie


Congrats to you, job well done. Did anyone ever say that your candidate looks like John Ritter?

REINCARNATION~

[Isaac]

I'm going Clark all the way. I like all the candidates, but he is my pick.