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Old 01-21-2004, 09:40 PM   #31
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I am just fucking happy right now. And, whether or not it sounds conceited, I am so proud of myself. And, I am also a little drunk right now.

 
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Old 01-21-2004, 09:49 PM   #32
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Old 01-21-2004, 09:50 PM   #34
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I am just fucking happy right now. And, whether or not it sounds conceited, I am so proud of myself. And, I am also a little drunk right now.
I'm drunk too. I had an equally cool day
And that is quite an accomplishment ...

 
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Old 01-21-2004, 11:31 PM   #35
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-the albino cow farm

-waving to the people in the oncoming cars as you pass by each other
I want to see the cow farm. and I love it when that happens. congratulations on your hard work paying off and stuff

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 02:50 AM   #36
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If you wind up in SC permanently, I'm visiting. Or helping. Either one.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:26 AM   #37
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that's really nice

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 06:51 AM   #38
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I used to agree with that viewpoint until very recently, when someone opened my eyes to a new way of thinking. The South is going to vote Republican no matter who runs as a Democrat. Bush's support is strongest in the South; they like his racist warmongering, and no ammount of campaigning is going to change that.
i'm sorry, but personally, i think its total bs to say that every southerner is racist and Republican(and also, Baptist). i mean, my grandmother and aunt, who are native southerners on my dad's side of the family, and've always lived in Georgia(the latter born in South Carolina, but lives in GA now) their whole lives are Democrats, and are NOT racist(they're both NOT baptist, either). i also have many other southern friends that think the same way too(and aren't Republican), so please, wake up and realize that not all southerners are the same, like you may be easily mislead to think by movie stereotypes(and unfortunately as much as i hate to say it, the media).

btw, keep in mind that i'm an independent who typically leans towards the Democratic Party and the Green Party a lot more than i do any other political parties.

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Old 01-22-2004, 06:57 AM   #39
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I will find that out tomorrow at noon. It all hinges on how we do tonight and how much money the campaign has left.

But, I have a couple of interviews lined for higher up field positions for some other campaigns and non-profits when I get back to DC (I'm heading out back there tomorrow morning).
speaking of political campaigns, i'm VERY SERIOUSLY thinking about volunteering for Wesley Clark's presidental campaign. could anyone by any chance be nice enough to tell me where i could find his Chicago campaign office, so i could sign up to help his campaign?? pretty please, someone help me out w/this?

and btw, i really admire Edwards personally, even though i'm still supporting Clark.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:20 AM   #40
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speaking of political campaigns, i'm VERY SERIOUSLY thinking about volunteering for Wesley Clark's presidental campaign. could anyone by any chance be nice enough to tell me where i could find his Chicago campaign office, so i could sign up to help his campaign?? pretty please, someone help me out w/this?

and btw, i really admire Edwards personally, even though i'm still supporting Clark.
He doesn't have an office in Chicago yet. If he does, it is strictly a fundraising office. Basically, the only states with non-fundraising offices are states with primaries between now and Feb. 17th...and those are only for Edwards, Clark, and Dean. Kerry only has an office in New Hamshpire right now. (When he started losing in NH, he pulled all his resources and staff out of NH and South Carolina and put them into IA. Now he has an NH office again. But, he still has no significant office in SC, Oklahoma, Virginia, or any other early primary state.)

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:22 AM   #41
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He doesn't have an office in Chicago yet. If he does, it is strictly a fundraising office. Basically, the only states with non-fundraising offices are states with primaries between now and Feb. 17th...and those are only for Edwards, Clark, and Dean. Kerry only has an office in New Hamshpire right now. (When he started losing in NH, he pulled all his resources and staff out of NH and South Carolina and put them into IA. Now he has an NH office again. But, he still has no significant office in SC, Oklahoma, Virginia, or any other early primary state.)
i wouldn't wonder if you had some sattelites up there spying on your opponents.....
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Old 01-22-2004, 11:33 AM   #42
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The South is going to vote Republican no matter who runs as a Democrat. Bush's support is strongest in the South; they like his racist warmongering, and no ammount of campaigning is going to change that.
Besides your needless hyperbole about "racist warmongering" which is truly sad and ridiculous, do you remember the last 3 Democratic presidents elected? Clinton (Arkansas), Carter (Georgia), LBJ (Texas). JFK in 1960 was the last non-southern Dem elected, and that was just because he was cuter than Nixon on TV.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 11:37 AM   #43
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This is one of those races that is going to make it into all of the textbooks. It was nothing short of historical. The two front-runners (Dean and Gephardt) finished a DISTANT 3rd and 4th. And there were all those reporters and poltical pundits talking about how the Dean and Gephardt campaigns had the man power and field operation that was necessary to win, that the Edwards campaign didn't have enough money, enough staff, etc., etc. Well, I guess we showed them.
I realize you're really proud of yourself and all, but no Iowa caucus is going to "make the textbooks." In a few years, nobody care.

Does anyone other than the McCain family remember/care that John was the frontrunner through New Hampshire in 2000?

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 11:58 AM   #44
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Does anyone other than the McCain family remember/care that John was the frontrunner through New Hampshire in 2000?
i do b/c i would've voted for him over gore any day of hte week; i was excited that mccain was doing well

in 2000, i voted for 9 republicans and one sorry democrat (gore)

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 01:06 PM   #45
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i do b/c i would've voted for him over gore any day of hte week; i was excited that mccain was doing well

in 2000, i voted for 9 republicans and one sorry democrat (gore)
I voted for McCain in the primary.. mainly because he wanted to do something about the illegal immigration.

PS his appearance on the Daily Show yesterday was fantastic.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 01:12 PM   #46
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I voted for McCain in the primary.. mainly because he wanted to do something about the illegal immigration.
since i'm a registered democrat, i wouldn't have been able to vote for him in the primary

i thought he was the best candidate in teh field




also, a PS, it seems edwards' stances are beginning to unravel www.drudgereport.com

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 01:23 PM   #47
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since i'm a registered democrat, i wouldn't have been able to vote for him in the primary

i thought he was the best candidate in teh field




also, a PS, it seems edwards' stances are beginning to unravel www.drudgereport.com
I like to switch party allegience in order to vote in primaries. I trust the Libs to put a candidate that believes standard Libertarian beliefs.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 02:05 PM   #48
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Looks like Drudge is at it again. A skewing of the facts, or a worthwhile piece of gotcha?

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU JAN 22, 2004 09:54:20 ET XXXXX
EDWARDS BACKED STOCK MARKET GAMBLE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY
[RESULTS OF A DRUDGE REPORT INVESTIGATION INTO THE MAN OF MYSTERY, DEM HOPEFUL JOHN EDWARDS, WILL BE APPEARING IN THE COMING DAYS IN THIS SPACE...]
**Exclusive**
Iowa darling and Dem presidential hopeful John Edwards easily flips and flops on major issues, a DRUDGE REPORT investigation can reveal.
First up:
The senator from North Carolina "strongly opposes investing Social Security in the stock market," according to his campaign website.
In a page titled "seniors," Edwards takes a stand on the controversial issue, declaring how he "strongly opposes recent efforts to privatize Social Security, which would jeopardize benefits by risking our Social Security funds in the stock market."
But before he decided he was going to seek the Democratic presidential nomination, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal, Edwards supported investing Social Security funds in the stock market!
In a speech on October 6, 1998 in Raleigh, Senator Edwards told a group of senior citizens that Social Security surpluses - money not needed immediately to pay benefits - should be invested and kept separate. A portion of the money, up to 10 percent, could be invested in the stock market and the remainder put in secure investments such as treasury bills, Edwards explained.
On September 27, 1998, Edwards told a gathering at Elon College how a small part of the Social Security fund should be invested in stocks and bonds "to see the kind of returns it would produce."
Investment brokers and not Washington bureaucrats should decide how the money should be invested, Edwards said.
Edwards advocated setting up a new commission to invest "5 to 10 percent of Social Security reserves in private markets. "
The Wilmington Star-News reported on the Edwards speech at Elon under the headline: "Many in poll fear uncertain future on social security."
Edwards's presidential campaign theme is "There Are Two Americas."
But now, the question must be asked, are there two John Edwards?

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 02:09 PM   #49
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But now, the question must be asked, are there two John Edwards?
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:38 PM   #50
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I realize you're really proud of yourself and all, but no Iowa caucus is going to "make the textbooks." In a few years, nobody care.
Uhh...there are plenty of Iowa caucus races in many textbooks and non-fiction books.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:54 PM   #51
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Even if Edwards did flipflop, that was 6 years ago. Drudge is so fucking stupid.

(But he makes up for it by putting Dean audio clips on his site.)

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:58 PM   #52
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Uhh...there are plenty of Iowa caucus races in many textbooks and non-fiction books.
You're forgetting that Nimrod knows everything.

 
Old 01-22-2004, 04:24 PM   #53
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You're forgetting that Nimrod knows everything.
Yes, it will be in a textbook if you take Caucuses 101.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 04:27 PM   #54
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ok, so what's happening down here in SC?

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 04:37 PM   #55
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ok, so what's happening down here in SC?
Kerry's getting a huge endorsement today, and he'll likely end up a close 2nd (possible 1st) in the primary.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 04:38 PM   #56
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Yes, it will be in a textbook if you take Caucuses 101.
Like, duh, guys. Nobody really majors in political science.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:06 PM   #57
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Kerry's getting a huge endorsement today, and he'll likely end up a close 2nd (possible 1st) in the primary.
Just like when Gore, Bradley, and Harkin endorsed Dean and then Dean went on to win 1st...oh wait, nope, those endsorements didn't mean a damn thing.

Each candidate has a long list of endorsements. The endorsements that mean the most are key local officials (i.e. county supervisors). High-profile endorsements are best for raising money, not getting more votes (and yes, believe it or not, those are two different things).

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:18 PM   #58
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Just like when Gore, Bradley, and Harkin endorsed Dean and then Dean went on to win 1st...oh wait, nope, those endsorements didn't mean a damn thing.

Each candidate has a long list of endorsements. The endorsements that mean the most are key local officials (i.e. county supervisors). High-profile endorsements are best for raising money, not getting more votes (and yes, believe it or not, those are two different things).
His endorsement will give him a name in the state he doesn't have one right now. That's one less than anyone else, which can't hurt. Edwards I see is pulling a big nine percent, one up from Lieberman in NH, I wouldn't be surprised if that dropped and he came in fourth. And, if that happens, what happens? Again, I say, Super Tuesday decides it.

 
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:19 PM   #59
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His endorsement will give him a name in the state he doesn't have one right now. That's one less than anyone else, which can't hurt. Edwards I see is pulling a big nine percent, one up from Lieberman in NH, I wouldn't be surprised if that dropped and he came in fourth. And, if that happens, what happens? Again, I say, Super Tuesday decides it.
Shhh... remember Dean was a "distant third" but Edwards' 9% makes him "in the mix."

 
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Shhh... remember Dean was a "distant third" but Edwards' 9% makes him "in the mix."

Yes, Dean was a distant 3rd in the Iowa caucuses...what the hell else do you call 34% for 2nd place and then 18% for 3rd place? Close? Dean was never distant in any of the Iowa polls. The polls and the caucus are two DIFFERENT things. All the Iowa polls during the last month leading up to the caucuses, no matter who landed where in that particular poll, had a margin of error of +/- 4%, which, in every poll, put all the candidates in a statistical dead heat. And I have never commented on any particular NH poll...which is where that 9% is being pulled from.

 
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