Official 2003 Netphorian Awards Thread

[Orchestra]

Best new phrase, 2003:

Worst new phrase, 2003:

Best new troll:

Worst new troll:

Hottest Netphorian (male):

Hottest Netphorian (female):

Funniest Netphorian, 2003:

Smartest Netphorian, 2003:

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):

Best Zinger, 2003:

Zing of the Year:

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:

Best Group (posse):

Worst Group (posse):

Best couple:

Worst couple (chat threads):

Greatest Tagteam:

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:

Most Notorious Rivals 2003:

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:

Thread of the Year:

Moderator of the Year:

Netphorian of the Year:

[Nimrod's Son]

this should be sticky

[GreenEggsNSpam]

Netphorian of the Year:
GreenEggsNSpam

[Ihaman]

Best new phrase, 2003:"I have 8 Watches and none of them are fake"

Worst new phrase, 2003:I like pizza

Best new troll:Marlon Brando

Worst new troll:The tennis guy

Hottest Netphorian (male):Thomas

Hottest Netphorian (female):Twice

Funniest Netphorian, 2003:Pastor

Smartest Netphorian, 2003:Pastor

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:Miss World

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:Devious J

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):Miss World

Best Zinger, 2003:Pastor

Zing of the Year:*shrugs*

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:Krazee Pumpkin

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:Miss World

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:Gumby

Best Group (posse):*shrugs*

Worst Group (posse):*shrugs*

Best couple:Thomas and Me

Worst couple (chat threads):*shrugs*

Greatest Tagteam:*shrugs*

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:Mr. Rhino

Most Notorious Rivals 2003:No idea

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:Samsa

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:Gumby

Thread of the Year:Movie Industry

Moderator of the Year:PAXULA!

Netphorian of the Year:Pastor

[Orchestra]

Best new phrase, 2003:That will never post

Worst new phrase, 2003:I like Pizza

Best new troll:Was Grover this year?

Worst new troll:Mr. T

Hottest Netphorian (male):Ihamatt

Hottest Netphorian (female):Nicki

Funniest Netphorian, 2003:Lee

Smartest Netphorian, 2003:Nimmy

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:Miss world & affect

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:Lee

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):Julio

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):Shaunna

Best Zinger, 2003:

Zing of the Year:

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:trykristen

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:sppunk

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:

Best Group (posse):NEWFIES

Worst Group (posse):Alokazrreeeee whatever the fuck anime bitches

Best couple:

Worst couple (chat threads):Fall down Blue and Affectation

Greatest Tagteam:Whenever Nikka or nimmy tag with someone

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:dunno yet

Most Notorious Rivals 2003:Fall down blue and Affectation

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:Suze

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:Helena Handbasket

Thread of the Year:Movie Industry

Moderator of the Year:Masonbutler

Netphorian of the Year:Nicki

[Nimrod's Son]

Best new phrase, 2003:
NSFW
Worst new phrase, 2003:
"spare"
Best new troll:
LOL
Worst new troll:
Fall Down Blue
Hottest Netphorian (male):
Nimrod's Son
Hottest Netphorian (female):
Hyperbole
Funniest Netphorian, 2003:
DeviousJ
Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
jczeroman
Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:
trykristin
Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:
Ugly
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):
******
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):
DeadSwan
Best Zinger, 2003:
Affectation
Zing of the Year:
Whichever one made KP cry
Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:
KrazeePumpkin
Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:
poor ******
Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:
spa ced
Best Group (posse):
I'll go with the newfies by a nose over the Torontans
Worst Group (posse):
The Mississippi Redneck Convention (though they lost the purple pussied one)
Best couple:
Orchestra and Mirror_Untrue
Worst couple (chat threads):
Geek USA and cap'n jazz
Greatest Tagteam:
jczeroman and Nimrod's Son
Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:
Graveflower
Most Notorious Rivals 2003:
strange_one and Affectation
Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:
guz
Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:
Fall Down Blue
Thread of the Year:
I take credit for my "Which TV/Movie Character You Are" thread. I'm thinking of doing another similar one.
Moderator of the Year:
Mason R Butthole
Netphorian of the Year:
Fattening Ass. I had to think long and hard on this one, and quite frankly, the person most involved with everything funny and fun, both on and off the boards (habbo, takeovers, gunbound, etc) would be Gil.

[Affectation]

I have no rivals.

And Orchestra, you don't have to act all sad because I called you a dumb lan playing fuckup. Grow some hair on that chest and buck up, kid.

[shaniqua]

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
Best new phrase, 2003:
"Enjoy _____"
Worst new phrase, 2003:
"I like pizza"
Best new troll:
LOL
Worst new troll:
nofxfugazi420
Hottest Netphorian (male):
noyen
Hottest Netphorian (female):
spava
Funniest Netphorian, 2003:
sickbadthing
Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
bluestar
Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:
eulogy
Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:
s. tasty
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):
the ace of aces
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):
shaunna
Best Zinger, 2003:
s. tasty
Zing of the Year:
RED TURTLENECK
Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:
KrazeePumpkin
Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:
strange_one
Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:
miss world
Best Group (posse):
toronto crew, though most of em aren't toronto
Worst Group (posse):
anearkraze or whatever
Best couple:
twice & krazee
Worst couple (chat threads):
nimrod's son and trykristin
Greatest Tagteam:
noyen and sickbadthing
Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:
Graveflower
Most Notorious Rivals 2003:
fall down blue and Affectation
Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:
Cactuar
Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:
shaunna
Thread of the Year:
"Which TV/Movie Character You Are" thread. by nimrod
Moderator of the Year:
Mason R Butler
Netphorian of the Year:
undivinemartyr

[Mooney]

b>Best new phrase, 2003:hello.

Worst new phrase, 2003:uh.

Best new troll:Fall Down Blue

Worst new troll:uh.

Hottest Netphorian (male):Mooney

Hottest Netphorian (female):Spava

Funniest Netphorian, 2003:uh.

Smartest Netphorian, 2003:pastor

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:Mooney

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:Mark Ledrew

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):Adam M

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):Eve

Best Zinger, 2003:uh.

Zing of the Year:uh.

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:Mooney

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:uh.

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:uh.

Best Group (posse):uh.

Worst Group (posse):uh.

Best couple:
uh.
Worst couple (chat threads):uh.

Greatest Tagteam:uh.

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:Mayfuck

Most Notorious Rivals 2003:Mooney vs. Netphoria

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:Hoody

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:Mooney

Thread of the Year:This one.

Moderator of the Year:uh.

Netphorian of the Year:Fall Down Blue

Netphorian that has been here almost four years but still doesn't know jack shit about anyone:Mooney

[Isaac]

Originally posted by Nimrod's Son
Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
jczeroman

Hands down.

[akaneironokaze]

satan rules!!!!

[Julian, Porn CONNOISSEUR]

Best new phrase, 2003: BUTT FUCK MY CUNT. CUM BUBBLE.

Worst new phrase, 2003: ASL?

Best new troll: STFUFUGAZIBUTTSEXEFFEXORSWHATEVER THE FUCK

Worst new troll: NIMRODS SON

Hottest Netphorian (male): TRYKIRSTIN

Hottest Netphorian (female): RANDOM FEMALE

Funniest Netphorian, 2003: SAW DUST RESTARUANTS

Smartest Netphorian, 2003: BLACKFAERIE

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003: ANDREW PAKULA

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003: THE GADDROW

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male): RANDOM FEMALE

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female): VANILLA AND AIDAN

Best Zinger, 2003: FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCK CUNT CLIT COCK SLUT BALLSACK LABIA FUCK CUNT FUCK FUCK FUCK

Zing of the Year: CREAM FILLING KIND

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003: ACE OF ACES CAME OUT OF A COMA THAT DESERVES RESPECT

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003: SPAVA

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year: BLUESTAR

Best Group (posse): S CLUB 7

Worst Group (posse): THE PMRC

Best couple: GEO AND STEVEN SEGAL

Worst couple (chat threads): JENNIFERKATE AND 13

Greatest Tagteam: HYPERBOLE AND OUI HENRI

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003: FALL DOWN BLUE

Most Notorious Rivals 2003: CUNT VS CUNT

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004: SAMSA

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004: ANDREW PAKULA

Thread of the Year: FUCK YOU

Moderator of the Year: MASON COCK AND BALLS BUTTELER

Netphorian of the Year: JULIAN PORN CONNOISSEUR

[alongdrive]

Best new phrase, 2003: douchebag

Worst new phrase, 2003: jerkoff

Hottest Netphorian (male): Orchestra

Hottest Netphorian (female): Mirror_Untrue

Funniest Netphorian, 2003: alongdrive

Smartest Netphorian, 2003: alongdrive

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003: Orchestra

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003: Orchestra

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male): Orchestra

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female): Mirror_Untrue

Best Zinger, 2003: alongdrive

Zing of the Year: "Douchebag!"

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003: alongdrive

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003: alongdrive

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year: alongdrive

Best Group (posse): alongdrive, orchestra, mirror_untrue

Worst Group (posse): linkin park

Best couple: jen and ben

Worst couple (chat threads): mirror_untrue & orchestra

Greatest Tagteam: hulk hogan & macho man

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003: alongdrive

Most Notorious Rivals 2003: alongdrive & ashortdrive

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004: Orchestra

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004: Mirror_Untrue

Thread of the Year: this one

Netphorian of the Year: alongdrive

[Fletcher]

Best new phrase, 2003: "I have eight watches.... None of them are fake."

Worst new phrase, 2003: "Fag."

Best new troll: 2Marlon2Brando

Worst new troll: That "nofxsomethingfugazi" dumbass.

Hottest Netphorian (male): Matt.

Hottest Netphorian (female): Holla! I have no idea...

Funniest Netphorian, 2003: -.

Smartest Netphorian, 2003: Adam (Silent1).

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003: See "Worst new troll".

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003: Geek USA haha.

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male): ******.

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female): That Lola slut.

Best Zinger, 2003: Dunno.

Zing of the Year: "Listen to Mayonaise!" was actualy really funny.

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003: There are a few...

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003: Fletcher.

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year: See "Dumbest Netphorian, 2003".

Best Group (posse): The latino group (we rock ).

Worst Group (posse): The canadian haters.

Best couple: Me and Geo (even if it seems to be over now...).

Worst couple (chat threads): See "Best Zinger, 2003".

Greatest Tagteam: See "Worst couple (chat threads)".

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003: Helena Handbasket.

Most Notorious Rivals 2003: Dunno.

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004: See above.

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004: There are a few too...

Thread of the Year: That "If Netphoria was the Movie Industrie" one was quite a laugh...

Moderator of the Year: Mason, without doubt!

Netphorian of the Year: I dither between Adam (without "M") and Matt.

[Elvis The Fat Years]

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:Krazee Pumpkin

You guys make it sound like she finally kicked a heroin habit.

[yo soy el mejor]

Best new phrase, 2003:
I have 8 Watches and none of them are fake
Worst new phrase, 2003:

Best new troll:
fall down blue
Worst new troll:
sg boi!
Hottest Netphorian (male):
RYAN PATRICK AND MATT!
Hottest Netphorian (female):
meow!
Funniest Netphorian, 2003:
pastor
Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
jczeroman
Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:
the ace of shit
Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:
GEEK USA! LOLOOL!
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):
TOBY
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):
MISS WORLd
Best Zinger, 2003:
uh.
Zing of the Year:
:waah waah im a princess
Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:
???
Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:
miss world.
Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:
SPPUNK!
Best Group (posse):

Worst Group (posse):
those kaze girls
Best couple:
ORCHESTRA AND GEEK USA
Worst couple (chat threads):
nimrod son and jczeroman!
Greatest Tagteam:
twice and krazee unf.
Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:

Most Notorious Rivals 2003:
affectation and tessellation
Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:
desi
Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:
me.
Thread of the Year:
:erm
Moderator of the Year:
mason butthead
Netphorian of the Year:
2MARLON2BRANDO

damnit. i fucked it up. i cant do anythign!

[mirrar]

Originally posted by yo soy el mejor
Best couple:
ORCHESTRA AND GEEK USA

A+.

[Ghetto_Squirrel]

Best new phrase, 2003:
Less than three

Worst new phrase, 2003:
The introduction and consequent mainstreaming of the word 'Metrosexual' ... and I know that isn't a phrase

Best new troll:
2Marlon2Brando, though he's graduated to post-troll status

Worst new troll:
Fall Down Islekaze

Hottest Netphorian (male):
scouse_dave

Hottest Netphorian (female):
mirror_untrue

Funniest Netphorian, 2003:
Pastor

Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
That's like trying to determine who is least high at Denny's at midnight

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:
Isle or Luke1

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:
I think Tessa turned emo or something

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):
******

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):
Ihaman

Best Zinger, 2003:

The Ace of Aces to Geek USA

Get a job.

Enroll at a university.

Quit obssessing over 17-year old Mormons who you don't even have the guts to talk to.

Quit IMing me to ask me to IM people who have you blocked.

Try sex or at least perhaps date someone of the opposite sex.

Lose some weight.

Drop the emo haircut.

Quit hanging out with chola trash like Never Leave Me.

Don't spend 18 hours a day online e-flirting with people you'll never know in real life.

Then give me a call and we'll go fuck.

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:
Nimrod's Son

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:
Julio got meeean

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:
Ihaman

Best Group (posse):
T-dot Crips

Worst Group (posse):
The Minnesotans?

Best couple:
Mooney and left hand

Worst couple (chat threads):
mirror_untrue and Orchestra. I heart them both, but e-PDA is a mite excessive

Greatest Tagteam:
?

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:
meow

Most Notorious Rivals 2003:
?

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:
Undone, or non-sporadic posting by Baden

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:
You

Thread of the Year:
Invariably some Photoshop one

Moderator of the Year:
Hyperbole

Netphorian of the Year:
jczeroman

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally posted by Elvis The Fat Years
Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:Krazee Pumpkin

You guys make it sound like she finally kicked a heroin habit.

hahahahaha <3

[sawdust restaurants]

Best new phrase, 2003: Enjoy (fill in the blank)
Worst new phrase, 2003: Penis smile
Best new troll: Has there been one?
Worst new troll: All of them.
Hottest Netphorian (male): $ Tasty
Hottest Netphorian (female): It's hard to choose. Netphoria is a bitchin' place for lovely ladies. Rowr.
Funniest Netphorian, 2003: pastor
Smartest Netphorian, 2003: I'm kind of worried that in 8 years, we'll still all be posting here and Stefanie will somehow have eclipsed the Colins and Samanthas and Daves of the world in intelligence. That would be a double bitchslap.
Dumbest Netphorian, 2003: Fall Down Blue?
Geekiest Netphorian, 2003: This is like asking who the biggest alcoholic is at an AA meeting.
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male): Julian, Porn Connoisseur
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female): Nobody on here is really a huge slut. Maybe Eve used to be, but then she got pregnant and had a beautiful baby and by all indicators is a fantastic mom.
Best Zinger, 2003:
Zing of the Year: I don't want to answer either of these two due to that God-awful SNL skit from a couple of months back. It ruined the word "zing" forever and made me hesistant to even attempt to zing anybody ever again.
Netphorian Most Improved in 2003: KP
Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003: Ihaman
Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year: There's 4 or 5 contenders, and all of them know who they are.
Best Group (posse): The music board "indie snobs," even though that's not really a posse
Worst Group (posse): I dunno
Best couple: eyesbomb and his ego
Worst couple (chat threads): Miss World and palidor
Greatest Tagteam: The Legion of Doom
Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003: Helena Handbasket
Most Notorious Rivals 2003: mpp and jczeroman
Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004: My dearest Undone. At least she has AIM.
Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004: The annoying ones
Thread of the Year: The videogame Photoshop one. Or that 40-page chat thread, which is impressive due to sheer girth.
Moderator of the Year: Mason R. Butler, king of the mods
Netphorian of the Year: Baby Aidan

[scouse_dave]

[b]Best new phrase, 2003:
hiyoooooo
Worst new phrase, 2003:
Penis smile
Best new troll:
i suppose Fall Down Blue qualifies
Worst new troll:
that new fugazi one
Hottest Netphorian (male):
Mooney
Hottest Netphorian (female):
Dusty
Funniest Netphorian, 2003:
Sickbadthing
Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
Nimrod's Son - even tho i disagree with him more often than not
Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:
strange_one
Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:
strange_one
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):
******
Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):
Bluestar
Best Zinger, 2003:
Pastor
Zing of the Year:
i don't remember this kinda stuff
Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:
******
Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:
strange_one
Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:
strange_one
Best Group (posse):
um...dunno
Worst Group (posse):
same..no clue
Best couple:
Meow and Feefer
Worst couple (chat threads):
Dusty/******
Greatest Tagteam:
jczeroman and Nimrod's Son
Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:
Irrelevant
Most Notorious Rivals 2003:
Fall Down Blue and Affectation
Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:
Desi
Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:
strange_one
Thread of the Year:
there's been a few hilarious photo-shopping ones...i'll go for one of them. if netphoria was a movie?
Moderator of the Year:
Mason R Butler
Netphorian of the Year:
2Marlon2Brando

[meow]

BEST GROUP: ********, ******, CALUM, MAGGIE, KIM

[Fattening Ass]

it was a bad year in funneh for me.

[Mooney]

Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel

Best couple:
Mooney and left hand

how'd you know i am left handed?! :erm

[Ghetto_Squirrel]

Originally posted by Mooney
how'd you know i am left handed?! :erm

Found your homemade AVIs on Kazaa.

[vanilla]

Originally posted by Ghetto_Squirrel
Worst Group (posse):
The Minnesotans?

boooo. but at least we were recognized.

[Eulogy]

Hottest Netphorian (male):
peabody

Hottest Netphorian (female):
no idea

Funniest Netphorian, 2003:
Pastor

Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
pastor....or maybe sawdust.

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:
ha.

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:
Irrelevant. It's that damn 'stache.




Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:
KrazeePumpkin...or Ace

Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:
sp aced

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:
sp aced


Worst couple (chat threads):
palidor and miss world



Most Notorious Rivals 2003:
FDB and Affect?

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:
Samsa or Cactuar

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:
sp aced

Netphorian of the Year:
hmmmmmmmmm....... pastor

[Fall Down Blue]

Don't you worry netphoria, i'm working on my list this very instant.

[vanilla]

Best new phrase, 2003:
i'd hit it... new for me

Worst new phrase, 2003:
the pizza one

Best new troll:
marlon brando was funny

Worst new troll:
fall down blue, and i'm sticking to it.

Hottest Netphorian (male):
killed radio star

Hottest Netphorian (female):
mirror_untrue

Funniest Netphorian, 2003:
nosebomb

Smartest Netphorian, 2003:
mason butler

Dumbest Netphorian, 2003:
falldownblue

Geekiest Netphorian, 2003:
geekusa, why not

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (male):
el savior?

Sluttiest Netphorian, 2003 (female):
krazee, due to peer pressure

Best Zinger, 2003:
ace of aces, due to ghetto squirrles vote and example. very funny

Zing of the Year:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Netphorian Most Improved in 2003:
not sure. i like trykristin a little better. eh


Netphorian Most Downhill in 2003:
miss world, i just think she was in a little slump

Most Annoying Netphorian of the Year:
falldownblue, the is pretty annoying too

Best Group (posse):
texans, why not

Worst Group (posse):
texans

Best couple:
geekusa and capnjazz

Worst couple (chat threads):
falldownblue and affect

Greatest Tagteam:
i'd like killedradiostar and mirror_untrue to tag team me . errr

Most Sterotypical Netphorian 2003:
tasty

Most Notorious Rivals 2003:
i will vote for vanilla and lizardqueens 4 week rivalry. it was fun for me.

Netphorian you'd like to return in 2004:
imploding_poptart

Netphorian you'd like to leave in 2004:
everyone

Thread of the Year:
personally i enjoyed the palidor penis pic. that was funny. hehe

Moderator of the Year:
mason jar!

[miss world]

i don't see how i could be most downhill, i never started out good. :erm