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Old 12-04-2003, 01:09 PM   #181
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And yes, thats their decision, but that doesn't mean it isn't selfish.
there are very few people in this world who are not selfish. people have to be selfish. they have to take care of themselves. they have to be selfish enough to get happy, so that they can exist and love others. i am selfish, but i still love doing things for other people. i like to see smiles on their faces. so that, in itself, is a selfish thing, right? seeing someone else smile because of something i did makes me feel good. but isn't that a good kind of selfish?

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:11 PM   #182
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there are very few people in this world who are not selfish. people have to be selfish. they have to take care of themselves. they have to be selfish enough to get happy, so that they can exist and love others. i am selfish, but i still love doing things for other people. i like to see smiles on their faces. so that, in itself, is a selfish thing, right? seeing someone else smile because of something i did makes me feel good. but isn't that a good kind of selfish?
Kill yourself.
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:12 PM   #183
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The only reason crimes are bad is because they are illegal.. You don't think a dog is going to go to hell for raping another dog do you. I think I will stop spreading my insane philiopshy and take the topic starter's suggestion of suicide. Bye world..
all dogs go to heaven. didn't you see the movie?

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:12 PM   #184
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:20 PM   #185
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If the frontline forces are all thinking about killing themselves rather than going into combat, the US Army is weak as fuck.
a lot of people don't realize that they weren't cut out for their jobs after the fact. emotions come into play, even for army people. they aren't machines. i can think of a lot of people who work in other fields of work that would rather kill themselves than handle the hard stuff. i'd really like some stats on the percentage of people that are truly happy to be doing what they are doing. my company must be weak as fuck too, because it doesn't seem like anyone wants to be here either.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:21 PM   #186
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:24 PM   #187
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The ignorance of the person.
we're all ignorant when we start a new job. we're all ignorant because nothing is certain. so i think that's a poor argument. i'm with beautifulloser on this one--a lot of people join the military and realize they aren't cut out for it. it's not funny--it's just something that happens that can't be predicted. you can call it ignorance, but we're all ignorant because we can predict the future.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:45 PM   #188
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i thought this was a thread about suicide?
i think it has just evolved into a general discussion about sadness, i.e. war, suicide, discontent...

war is one of the reasons people commit suicide, so it's all good here.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:54 PM   #189
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You don't know how you'll react to a situation until you're put there... and when I was put in the situation, I didn't like it. I see nothing wrong with that.
Thats only true for some people who do not fully examine the consequences of their own actions. I personally know my limits and I know exactly what I can and can't handle. It is your fault you went into the Army uninformed and ignorant of your own tolerance to such a situation. Its all about taking the responsibility of educating yourself about what you are getting into and educating yourself about what you are prepared to handle. Did it not occur to you when you joined the Army that we could go to war? That you would be trained to kill? That you might get sent into a foreign country? That you might not get out as soon as you thought? Ignorance is your own fault.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:54 PM   #190
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Kill yourself.
would that put a smile on your face?

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:59 PM   #191
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Thats only true for some people who do not fully examine the consequences of their own actions. I personally know my limits and I know exactly what I can and can't handle. It is your fault you went into the Army uninformed and ignorant of your own tolerance to such a situation. Its all about taking the responsibility of educating yourself about what you are getting into and educating yourself about what you are prepared to handle. Did it not occur to you when you joined the Army that we could go to war? That you would be trained to kill? That you might get sent into a foreign country? That you might not get out as soon as you thought? Ignorance is your own fault.
I thought I could handle it. But when faced with the situation, I realized I'm not as strong as I'd like to be. It doesn't make me stupid... it makes me human.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 01:59 PM   #192
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Old 12-04-2003, 02:00 PM   #193
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Thats only true for some people who do not fully examine the consequences of their own actions. I personally know my limits and I know exactly what I can and can't handle. It is your fault you went into the Army uninformed and ignorant of your own tolerance to such a situation. Its all about taking the responsibility of educating yourself about what you are getting into and educating yourself about what you are prepared to handle. Did it not occur to you when you joined the Army that we could go to war? That you would be trained to kill? That you might get sent into a foreign country? That you might not get out as soon as you thought? Ignorance is your own fault.
that's an ignorant argument. and you're being too idealistic. just because you know your limits, it doesn't mean everyone else does. just because you have the mental capacity and the drive to learn about your limits, it doesn't mean everyone else does. it's ignorant to think that everyone on this planet has the same thought process as you--which, it seems, is to become well-informed about everything you do. you've never walked in beatifulloser's shoes and you never will. maybe she thought she was completely informed. maybe in the moment she signed the papers and took the oath, she felt great about it. either way, nobody can ever be in that moment again. i've made stupid decisions in my life, but i can never go back and BE in that moment again where i made the bad decision. so i can never say i "should" have done anything different.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 02:05 PM   #194
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i started cutting myself again last night

I should probably still be in the hospital

I'm staying home from work because I'm sick and I'm debating slitting my throat
hi. i hope that you do whatever it takes to be happy. or, at least, to release yourself from all the sadness. if you go through with it, and there does happen to be some kind of life after death, *visit* those of us who think about suicide as an option, and let us all know whether or not it was worth it. and if you tell us that it's not worth it, please offer some other options.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 02:11 PM   #195
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that's an ignorant argument. and you're being too idealistic. just because you know your limits, it doesn't mean everyone else does. just because you have the mental capacity and the drive to learn about your limits, it doesn't mean everyone else does. it's ignorant to think that everyone on this planet has the same thought process as you--which, it seems, is to become well-informed about everything you do. you've never walked in beatifulloser's shoes and you never will. maybe she thought she was completely informed. maybe in the moment she signed the papers and took the oath, she felt great about it. either way, nobody can ever be in that moment again. i've made stupid decisions in my life, but i can never go back and BE in that moment again where i made the bad decision. so i can never say i "should" have done anything different.
Hey, that's great, that way you never have to take responsibility for any of your decisions.

Look, if you join the Army expect to go to war and kill people.

What's so fucking tough about that? It's like getting a job at McDonald's and then being shocked to be asked to cook hamburgers.
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Old 12-04-2003, 02:15 PM   #196
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if you go through with it, and there does happen to be some kind of life after death, *visit* those of us who think about suicide as an option, and let us all know whether or not it was worth it. and if you tell us that it's not worth it, please offer some other options.
Ok, you're kidding, right?

You're requesting, in the event of his suicide, that the ghost of Sean Casey come by and visit Netphorians to tell them whether or not it was good to commit suicide?
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Old 12-04-2003, 02:16 PM   #197
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HOLY FUCK. I think I'm starting to like Nimrod's Son.

Its all about being responsible for your own actions without feeling sorry for yourself. Are you saying that just because some people do not think about the consequences of their own actions its okay? Hell, even the law doesn't taken into consideration peoples ignorance concerning the consequences of their actions. Ie people get drunk, drive, kill people. Doesn't matter if you realized you could kill someone or not, off to jail with you. Deal with it.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 02:17 PM   #198
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Ok, you're kidding, right?

You're requesting, in the event of his suicide, that the ghost of Sean Casey come by and visit Netphorians to tell them whether or not it was good to commit suicide?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 03:59 PM   #199
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Ok, you're kidding, right?

You're requesting, in the event of his suicide, that the ghost of Sean Casey come by and visit Netphorians to tell them whether or not it was good to commit suicide?
oh, i'm not kidding at all. i'm a freak that way.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 04:06 PM   #200
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Hey everybody.

Don't kill yourself.

You're making me sad.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 04:06 PM   #201
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oh, i'm not kidding at all. i'm a fucking idiot that way.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 04:07 PM   #202
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and you're fucking clever that way.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 04:28 PM   #203
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i think if you guys were fucking anything, you wouldn't be arguing about someone's situation that can't matter to your personal existence in the slightest.

yes the military sucks, but there are great benefits from joining (ie college tuition and the retirement benefits).
i don't think jenifer was wrong at all about hating her position. she signed up for an area that was noncombative so she won't be faced with killing anyone anytime soon. Yeah she should've expected to be at the command of some idiot that wanted her to stay in iraq for longer than she'd planned, but that doesn't mean she has to be happy about it.
everyone here has a right to complain and voice their opinion. she's stating how she feels about her situation and then people start TELLING her she has no reason to feel that way?
i think it's bullshit and she can kill herself if she wants!

 
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I never said she shouldn't kill herself. I'm all for it.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 05:07 PM   #205
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It'd be one thing if she were saying that she shouldn't have to stay.

But she's not. She knows what she has to do, and she hates it, but she's doing it anyway. She's not being all 'OMG THIS IS UNFAIR.'

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 05:23 PM   #206
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It'd be one thing if she were saying that she shouldn't have to stay.

But she's not. She knows what she has to do, and she hates it, but she's doing it anyway. She's not being all 'OMG THIS IS UNFAIR.'

Actually if you saw the thread she posted a week or two ago, she was just like that.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 05:25 PM   #207
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Actually if you saw the thread she posted a week or two ago, she was just like that.
Oh. Well then.

 
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Old 12-04-2003, 05:26 PM   #208
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http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...threadid=40796


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SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING CUNT

I didn't anticipate a stupid fucktard getting put into office and fucking everything up

FUCKING SHIT FUCK COCK CUNT CLIT ASS FUCK
That was the ignorance I was reffering to.

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Old 12-04-2003, 05:28 PM   #209
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Actually if you saw the thread she posted a week or two ago, she was just like that.
It's true. And now she says she's "thinking of killing herself" which means she really isn't having any plans to do it, she's just complaining some more.

If someone in the Army really wanted to kill themselves, it wouldn't be hard.

1. Get government issued handgun.
2. Place barrel of loaded handgun in mouth.
3. Point barrel upwards toward brain.
4. Pull trigger.
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Old 12-04-2003, 05:57 PM   #210
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i think if you guys were fucking anything, you wouldn't be arguing about someone's situation that can't matter to your personal existence in the slightest.

yes the military sucks, but there are great benefits from joining (ie college tuition and the retirement benefits).
i don't think jenifer was wrong at all about hating her position. she signed up for an area that was noncombative so she won't be faced with killing anyone anytime soon. Yeah she should've expected to be at the command of some idiot that wanted her to stay in iraq for longer than she'd planned, but that doesn't mean she has to be happy about it.
everyone here has a right to complain and voice their opinion. she's stating how she feels about her situation and then people start TELLING her she has no reason to feel that way?
i think it's bullshit and she can kill herself if she wants!
i think she's amazing for saying it out loud. it's nice to know that i'm not alone.

 
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