So I'm thinking of killing myself.

[Dr_Grotesque]

Originally posted by BeautifulLoser


Aaah.

[MisterSquishyHalo]

Good luck in Iraq.

are you in frontline combat force?

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by vanilla
i'm sick of people blaming God for everything. don't they realize that the devil is the one that steals, kills and destroys?

I'm sick of everyone blaming the devil everytime something goes wrong, and praising god whenever it goes right. People have nothing to do with it I suppose?

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by MisterSquishyHalo
Good luck in Iraq.

are you in frontline combat force?

If the frontline forces are all thinking about killing themselves rather than going into combat, the US Army is weak as fuck.

[Dr_Grotesque]

hey...My sisters fiance is in Iraq, and has been in Iraq since March.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by machinaddict

If the frontline forces are all thinking about killing themselves rather than going into combat, the US Army is weak as fuck.

No, I'm not. I'm a chick, I can't be on the frontline.

Alot of guys do it. The Army pays quite a bit of money to have counselors and psychologists available to them over there. Suicide is the 11th highest cause of death in regular society, but 3rd in the Army.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by Dr_Grotesque
hey...My sisters fiance is in Iraq, and has been in Iraq since March.

Sucky. 4th Infantry Division?

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by BeautifulLoser


No, I'm not. I'm a chick, I can't be on the frontline.

Alot of guys do it. The Army pays quite a bit of money to have counselors and psychologists available to them over there. Suicide is the 11th highest cause of death in regular society, but 3rd in the Army.

All respect for the American Military is lost. And since when couldn't women be on the front line? Last time I checked, women's rights had made quite a few advances in letting women do what they pleased in the miltary. Not having them on the frontline because they are women is pretty sexist to me.
You people are trained to go into combat and not be afraid. Obviously, its not working anymore.

[MisterSquishyHalo]

Originally posted by machinaddict

If the frontline forces are all thinking about killing themselves rather than going into combat, the US Army is weak as fuck.

scary enough there has been a alarming amount of suicides and wounds over in Iraq.

Its kinda depressing really.

[Dr_Grotesque]

Originally posted by BeautifulLoser


Sucky. 4th Infantry Division?

Yeah. But he gets to write emails all the time to my sister and his family and friends.

[MisterSquishyHalo]

Originally posted by machinaddict

All respect for the American Military is lost. And since when couldn't women be on the front line? Last time I checked, women's rights had made quite a few advances in letting women do what they pleased in the miltary. Not having them on the frontline because they are women is pretty sexist to me.
You people are trained to go into combat and not be afraid. Obviously, its not working anymore.

Women have never been allowed to be on the front lines...

Just because someone is trained to go into combat..doesnt mean that they cant have breakdowns

they are NOT robots.

You want robots? Look for the navy seals or Dboys.

Not your general run of the mill boot camp soldiers.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by machinaddict

All respect for the American Military is lost. And since when couldn't women be on the front line? Last time I checked, women's rights had made quite a few advances in letting women do what they pleased in the miltary. Not having them on the frontline because they are women is pretty sexist to me.
You people are trained to go into combat and not be afraid. Obviously, its not working anymore.

Women not being on the front line is actually a pretty good idea. Men would be more likely to get emotionally attached to the women in their unit, and could lose their composure if their female comrade were shot in battle.

Women can do alot of things, but still can't be in the Infantry and Field Artillery.

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by MisterSquishyHalo


scary enough there has been a alarming amount of suicides and wounds over in Iraq.

Its kinda depressing really.

Jesus Christ, you know how overpowered the US military is? Missions are practically a cakewalk. Look at the comparision of resources and training. Iraq was barely a war, and yet troops are shitting their pants at the thought of going there.
Its a good thing this isn't world war three, or the US would be fucked.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by Dr_Grotesque


Yeah. But he gets to write emails all the time to my sister and his family and friends.

Very cool. I wasn't sure if they'd gotten the internet over there yet or not.

[Lola The Slut]

Originally posted by Mirror_Untrue
making the decision to end your life and stop from existing with no idea where things go after that is anything but weak, it's actually a pretty ballsy move. many people chicken out of suicide, moron. whats weak is not being able to admit you have a problem that you need help/support for in order to make your life better and just doing nothing when you're experiencing extreme distress.

Suicide is a weak move, an easy way out. Yes, life sucks but its up to you to make it better, because being happy doesn't just happen to you. You have to deal with the shit that life puts you through, and understand that it is only gonna make you stronger.

[MisterSquishyHalo]

Originally posted by machinaddict

Jesus Christ, you know how overpowered the US military is? Missions are practically a cakewalk. Look at the comparision of resources and training. Iraq was barely a war, and yet troops are shitting their pants at the thought of going there.
Its a good thing this isn't world war three, or the US would be fucked.

You must not be following the news, Iraq might have been a cake walk in the first month of war, but now its guerilla warfare. Its scary shit going on over there.

we actually would do better in a world war three enviroment, at least there we would know our enemy. Here we are fighting against a blanket terror.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by machinaddict

Jesus Christ, you know how overpowered the US military is? Missions are practically a cakewalk. Look at the comparision of resources and training. Iraq was barely a war, and yet troops are shitting their pants at the thought of going there.
Its a good thing this isn't world war three, or the US would be fucked.

Do you watch the news? More people have died after the war than while it was going on because of the guerrilla warefare going on there. You can't tell a regular civilian from the people attacking. It's not as easy as you think.

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by MisterSquishyHalo
Just because someone is trained to go into combat..doesnt mean that they cant have breakdowns

they are NOT robots.

You want robots? Look for the navy seals or Dboys.

Not your general run of the mill boot camp soldiers.

some breakdowns among soldiers are predicted. But to have huge numbers of people who are supposed to go into battle? Its not like they are even fighting a real army.
You should never sign those papers if you don't think that one day you may have to kill someone that is trying to kill you.

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by BeautifulLoser


Do you watch the news? More people have died after the war than while it was going on because of the guerrilla warefare going on there. You can't tell a regular civilian from the people attacking. It's not as easy as you think.

While this was true, military leaders should have planned to have a backlash instead of blindly thinking that Iraqis would just welcome an invasion from country they have been trained to hate for years.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by machinaddict

some breakdowns among soldiers are predicted. But to have huge numbers of people who are supposed to go into battle? Its not like they are even fighting a real army.
You should never sign those papers if you don't think that one day you may have to kill someone that is trying to kill you.

You think war is a fucking joke or something? People are DYING. You do'nt know how to react to that until you see it. See: Guy in special forces that had a nervous breakdown after seeing a man cut in half by machine gun fire, then got charged with cowardice. Special Forces are trained to be killers... but that guy had never been in combat before, it freaked him out.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by machinaddict

While this was true, military leaders should have planned to have a backlash instead of blindly thinking that Iraqis would just welcome an invasion from country they have been trained to hate for years.

You're right. The pentagon didn't plan it. I think they're fucking idiots.

But us little people can't do much about that, can we?

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by MisterSquishyHalo


You must not be following the news, Iraq might have been a cake walk in the first month of war, but now its guerilla warfare. Its scary shit going on over there.

The US should have learned their lesson from Somalia, but they didn't.

[MisterSquishyHalo]

Originally posted by machinaddict

some breakdowns among soldiers are predicted. But to have huge numbers of people who are supposed to go into battle? Its not like they are even fighting a real army.
You should never sign those papers if you don't think that one day you may have to kill someone that is trying to kill you.

I agree, but if you filter out just people who like to go to war, and people who want job's/college tuition, the army would be very small.

I think if they were fighting a real army, I think we would be having a easier time. Again, the enemy we now fight, does not have a face, and is a more of a troublesome enemy, than a army that you can battle on a field.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by machinaddict

The US should have learned their lesson from Somalia, but they didn't.

You really think it's easier than it is.

[MisterSquishyHalo]

Originally posted by machinaddict

The US should have learned their lesson from Somalia, but they didn't.

The US fucked up in Somalia, I grant you that, we should have NEVER pulled out of somalia, especially after going in in the first place.

Al Qaeda 1 US 0

[Orchestra]

The idea of war isn't to die for your country. It's to make some other sorry bastard die for his.

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by MisterSquishyHalo
I agree, but if you filter out just people who like to go to war, and people who want job's/college tuition, the army would be very small.

see this is the problem right here. There shouldn't be anyone in the miltary for money/college. Ulterior motives among troops just breaks down cohesion.

I think if they were fighting a real army, I think we would be having a easier time. Again, the enemy we now fight, does not have a face, and is a more of a troublesome enemy, than a army that you can battle on a field.

Once again, this should have been planned. The US has a long history of problems in warfare such as this. Vietnam anyone?
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[machinaddict]

Originally posted by BeautifulLoser


You really think it's easier than it is.

please explain what you mean.

[machinaddict]

Originally posted by MisterSquishyHalo


The US fucked up in Somalia, I grant you that, we should have NEVER pulled out of somalia, especially after going in in the first place.

Al Qaeda 1 US 0

not only that, but after invading and then being defeated during several strategic battles (think Blackhawk Down) they just pulled out, leaving the UN peacekeepers with little defence.
That's pretty fucking nice.
Now they face the same situation in Iraq, only without the help of the UN.

[BeautifulLoser]

Originally posted by machinaddict


see this is the problem right here. There shouldn't be anyone in the miltary for money/college. Ulterior motives among troops just breaks down cohesion.

You're right, but if they didn't have a gimmick, hardly anyone would join the Army. There would be thousands less than there are now. They figure that numbers are better than quality.