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Old 12-03-2003, 08:03 PM   #61
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I don't know exactly where, I don't remember... but I'm pretty positive it says it.

I have to disagree with the "mental illness" thing to an extent. People nowadays use the term "mental illness" to get away with murder. Do you think that woman in Texas that killed all her kids was "mentally ill" so she shouldn't be punished?
what sane person kills all of their kids? obviously she was mentally ill. yes, she should be punished. just like it's a crime to kill yourself. p.s. show me where in the bible it says you go to hell if you kill yourself, then maybe i'll believe it.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:04 PM   #62
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what sane person kills all of their kids? obviously she was mentally ill. yes, she should be punished. just like it's a crime to kill yourself. p.s. show me where in the bible it says you go to hell if you kill yourself, then maybe i'll believe it.
Hmmph. I'll get back to you... I don't even know where to start.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:09 PM   #63
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Hmmph. I'll get back to you... I don't even know where to start.
not to be rude, but you shouldn't believe something just because someone has told you. i'm guessing you're christian, catholic? you shouldn't believe everything that you're told. you need to look it up in the bible yourself. actually this is something my brother told me.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:10 PM   #64
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Yeah, like me for example.
You were in my dream last night.
You were a HUGE jerk to me.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:11 PM   #65
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not to be rude, but you shouldn't believe something just because someone has told you. i'm guessing you're christian, catholic? you shouldn't believe everything that you're told. you need to look it up in the bible yourself. actually this is something my brother told me.
i'm sorry you lost your brother
it sounds like he was a great guy
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:13 PM   #66
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not to be rude, but you shouldn't believe something just because someone has told you. i'm guessing you're christian, catholic? you shouldn't believe everything that you're told. you need to look it up in the bible yourself. actually this is something my brother told me.
I'm looking it up right now, thanks.

I don't go to church anymore because I got tired of people telling me what to believe. The subject of suicide has never come up before, so I've never bothered looking it up until now.

From what I'm reading so far, as long as you accepted Jesus in your life, you go to heaven. But there's some verse about "murderers will never have eternal life" or something, but that's kind of a stretch.

I suppose you're right. But in my head, I don't think God would want me to waste a gift such as Life.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:14 PM   #67
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i'm sorry you lost your brother
it sounds like he was a great guy
=/
he was the coolest guy. just had a lot of struggles.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:16 PM   #68
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making the decision to end your life and stop from existing with no idea where things go after that is anything but weak, it's actually a pretty ballsy move. many people chicken out of suicide, moron. whats weak is not being able to admit you have a problem that you need help/support for in order to make your life better and just doing nothing when you're experiencing extreme distress.
the only post I agree with in this thread. Very well done. Everyone esle-your gay..

I have thought about suicide, even a few days ago I contemplated doing it. Of course I never get far enough to even stop before actually jumping or putting my neck in a rope, but it haunts my mind often. Its not so much direct problems as it is mental problems and state of being. Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me and I begin to think its better to end it, and all my sense are wacked. I know that taking one's own life is a HUGE deal.. Heaven, no such thing, so eternal sleep, are you ready?

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:16 PM   #69
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whats sad though is that many people who are driven to suicide honestly believe that no one gives a shit about them or would care less if they died. this percieved lack of social support can of course contribute to a persons wanting to take their life in the first place. in that respect, it's not a selfish act because it's their reality.
Regardless, they are selfish in that they are only thinking about it for themselves and not caring for what happens to people surrounding them. Its their life, but their life *******s many other people, not solely themselves.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:18 PM   #70
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From what I'm reading so far, as long as you accepted Jesus in your life, you go to heaven. But there's some verse about "murderers will never have eternal life" or something, but that's kind of a stretch.

I suppose you're right. But in my head, I don't think God would want me to waste a gift such as Life.
believe in the lord jesus chris and you shall be saved. it's as simple as that. God wants all of us to live a full happy life. i'm sick of people blaming God for everything. don't they realize that the devil is the one that steals, kills and destroys?

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:19 PM   #71
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believe in the lord jesus chris and you shall be saved. it's as simple as that. God wants all of us to live a full happy life. i'm sick of people blaming God for everything. don't they realize that the devil is the one that steals, kills and destroys?
True.

I don't pretend to know everything about my religion... I have alot to learn.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:19 PM   #72
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for those who don't even have mental problems, you wouldn't understand and shouldn't be "dissing" people who do. Although, everyone feels normal and "un"normal at times. Depression is a huge factor and I would classifu depression as a mental problem.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:20 PM   #73
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True.

I don't pretend to know everything about my religion... I have alot to learn.
me too. and i don't believe that anyone knows the real meaning. i don't think were supposed to.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:20 PM   #74
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for those who don't even have mental problems, you wouldn't understand and shouldn't be "dissing" people who do. Although, everyone feels normal and "un"normal at times. Depression is a huge factor and I would classifu depression as a mental problem.
Are you talking to me?

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:22 PM   #75
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Yeah, like me for example.
Tasty,

Our differences from many things aside, that would suck bro. Im pretty sure people would care. I would.



plus i wouldn't have anyone's life to risk.

wang's def. is too high to risk :/

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:22 PM   #76
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Are you talking to me?
no. i was talking to myself.. Honestly, I don't know who that was directed to.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:23 PM   #77
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no. i was talking to myself.. Honestly, I don't know who that was directed to.
hmm.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:23 PM   #78
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And my fiance told me yesterday he was considering breaking it off because he didn't think he could "handle it".
Hmph. For him to say such a thing should raise lots of red flags for you, regardless if he took it back or not.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:24 PM   #79
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Regardless, they are selfish in that they are only thinking about it for themselves and not caring for what happens to people surrounding them. Its their life, but their life *******s many other people, not solely themselves.
but people have to be selfish. nobody can be inside anyone else's head. so each person should make their own decision for their own mind and body.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:24 PM   #80
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hmm.
ya. I know..




The only reason crimes are bad is because they are illegal.. You don't think a dog is going to go to hell for raping another dog do you. I think I will stop spreading my insane philiopshy and take the topic starter's suggestion of suicide. Bye world..

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:25 PM   #81
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Hmph. For him to say such a thing should raise lots of red flags for you, regardless if he took it back or not.
It has, don't worry... but I'm also keeping in mind that he's not very "relationship experienced", and he has a history of saying the wrong shit at the wrong time.

I'm trying to give him the benifit of the doubt... he's been great otherwise.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:28 PM   #82
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but people have to be selfish. nobody can be inside anyone else's head. so each person should make their own decision for their own mind and body.
And yes, thats their decision, but that doesn't mean it isn't selfish.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:28 PM   #83
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Nothing is certain about death besides the rotting and decaying of you body. This is the only life known, and who is to say that one can even comprehend what happens after death?

I almost suceeded in commiting suicide...I have depression that will never go away, I get to live with eternal sadness the rest of my life (which does not quite make it eternal..heh..) but I have accepted it. My life is a gillion times better than most peoples, it is just that my emotional status sucks. And you know, living a suicidal life is much more kickass than being known as some stupid sob story.. so, Rock on.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:29 PM   #84
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Nothing is certain about death besides the rotting and decaying of you body. This is the only life known, and who is to say that one can even comprehend what happens after death?

You think that.

Some people have faith in other things. Even though it's not a scienitific proven certainty, I still believe in life after death.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:30 PM   #85
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On a side note, I think its funny when a dumb bitch joins the army then realizes she can't handle it and wants to kill herself.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:30 PM   #86
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On a side note, I think its funny when a dumb bitch joins the army then realizes she can't handle it and wants to kill herself.
Alot of people join the Army and realize they can't handle it. What's so funny about that?

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:35 PM   #87
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The ignorance of the person.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:42 PM   #88
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You think that.

Some people have faith in other things. Even though it's not a scienitific proven certainty, I still believe in life after death.
Nah, I am not saying that. It is just that I cannot speak for everyone. There are so many different beliefs about what happens after death. I believe a soul is laid to rest until the end, but their spirit lives on.

 
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:44 PM   #89
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Nah, I am not saying that. It is just that I cannot speak for everyone. There are so many different beliefs about what happens after death. I believe a soul is laid to rest until the end, but their spirit lives on.
Aaah.

 
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The ignorance of the person.
You don't know how you'll react to a situation until you're put there... and when I was put in the situation, I didn't like it. I see nothing wrong with that. You're just trying to start an arguement.

 
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