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10-06-2003, 02:01 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:05 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:06 PM
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Actually I wasn't bragging. Someone posted a topic asking what drugs everyone has done, I simply replied. Start a topic about how many animals we have all fucked and I'll post my list for that too....Hey, I'm not bragging that I have fucked 27 different mammals....I would just try to help improve the accuracy of the survey by responding.
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10-06-2003, 02:06 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:07 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:08 PM
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"Dumb ugly bitch" really hurts. Really. Because I care so much about what you think. Truly. |
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10-06-2003, 02:10 PM
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You cared enough to respond. Thanks for playing. Bibi! |
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10-06-2003, 02:12 PM
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dumbest thread ever
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10-06-2003, 02:13 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:13 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:23 PM
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uh, back on track....
alcohol weed well, also things like ibuprofen (i'm tripping on it right now!!!!111) and caffeine. I'd consider trying things like shrooms under the right circumstances, but thats about it. I'm curious about LSD, but my understanding is that it can accelerate schizophrenia, and one of my uncles currently lives in a home because of that. He did alot of drugs like that when he was younger apparently, so i don't think I'll ever try it. |
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10-06-2003, 02:41 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:51 PM
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are the forums haunted?
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10-06-2003, 02:56 PM
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Heh you people post and argue a lot. At least I'll always have something to read.
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10-06-2003, 02:58 PM
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10-06-2003, 02:59 PM
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10-06-2003, 03:03 PM
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Could someone who has had experiences with 2-CT-7, 2-Cb, DMT, and foxy explain your experiences? I've read a lot about them, would love to find them and try some out
 Just want to know if they are something worth looking for. I like to open new doors from time to time.... |
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10-06-2003, 03:35 PM
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I've done 2-c-t7...i've been trying to get my hands on 2-cb and either 5-meo-DMT or just DMT (they're different from what i understand, completely different experiences) 2-c-t7 felt really uhm, speedy...but not shaken. sort of like the body high you get right before the acid kicks in, but with some caffeine in the mix. your heart flutters and you get really excited about everything, uhm, colors are vibrant....music is more interesting. i threw up about 2 hours into it because it got pretty intense and the visuals were really different, everything look vectorized and i lost my sense of depth, like...i saw a fire across the way and it just looked like a small fire, instead of one that was further away...and that's something i have never experienced under any hallucinogenic state, so i found a place to sit and waited it out. there were times when i regretted it, but it didn't last nearly as long as acid does, so you come down from it at just when you've had enough. which is cool |
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10-06-2003, 03:36 PM
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and i didn't know it was 2-c-t7 until about a week later when he said "no, i gave you foxxy, not acid"
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10-06-2003, 03:40 PM
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I've talked to people and heard that 2-CB similar to 2-C-T7 ...as far as Dmt goes...I've heard its pretty much like an intensified acid trip that lasts only 30 minutes. By intensified I mean the power of like....a vial of acid. I've also read things about Danny Carrey of Tool experimenting with DMT and meditation...It seems as if a lot of people believe that DMT really can take you places. I'm interested in DMT most out of the others. Besides that Id just like to find some good ole Lsd again
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10-06-2003, 03:48 PM
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IS LOVE A DRUG YOU GUYS???????????????????????????
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10-06-2003, 03:48 PM
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Jared (Bittertrance) did 5-meo-DMT/DMT once on accident.
Share your experience, Jared! |
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10-06-2003, 03:58 PM
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Sounds like the time I got all fucked up candy flipping and decided to take about 20 melotonin pills. They didn't harm me but I felt like I was constanly floating while spinning backwards in a vortex of space(i was sitting down) I'm not sure why I took the melotonin or what effect it had in combo with the x and lsd but I do know it was one of the wierdest times of my life. I did get sick just because I had so many pills in my stomach. Some fun decisions can also be bad ones...
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10-06-2003, 04:03 PM
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However, to placate you, I did a Google search and this is the first result. I didn't look at any other links. http://www.infoline.org/Teens/YellowPages/Alcohol.asp ALCOHOL is the most abused drug in the United States in all age groups. It is a depressant. It slows the heart rate and respiration and affects the part of the brain that controls mood and emotions. Time is the only cure for the effects of alcohol on the body. It takes about one hour to eliminate the alcohol in one shot of whiskey, one beer, or one glass of wine (all contain approximately the same amount of alcohol). Mixing alcohol with other drugs is especially dangerous. People troubled by alcohol use often have social, physical, financial or emotional problems. COCAINE When snorted, injected, or smoked, acts as a stimulant to the central nervous system, increasing blood pressure, heart rate, respiration and body temperature. The dangers of cocaine vary. First-time use can cause death. Lesser dangers can ******* serious physical and psychological problems. Psychotic episodes from cocaine abuse are not uncommon. It is also addictive and expensive. |
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10-06-2003, 04:10 PM
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Alcohol- is rapidly absorbed into the bloodstream from the small intestine, and less rapidly from the stomach and colon. In proportion to its concentration in the bloodstream, alcohol decreases activity in parts of the brain and spinal cord. The drinker's blood alcohol concentration depends on: the amount consumed in a given time the drinker's size, sex, body build, and metabolism the type and amount of food in the stomach. Once the alcohol has passed into the blood, however, no food or beverage can retard or interfere with its effects. Fruit sugar, however, in some cases can shorten the duration of alcohol's effect by speeding up its elimination from the blood. In the average adult, the rate of metabolism is about 8.5 g of alcohol per hour (i.e. about two-thirds of a regular beer or about 30 mL of spirits an hour). This rate can vary dramatically among individuals, however, depending on such diverse factors as usual amount of drinking, physique, sex, liver size, and genetic factors. Effects : The effects of any drug depend on several factors: the amount taken at one time the user's past drug experience the manner in which the drug is taken the circumstances under which the drug is taken (the place, the user's psychological and emotional stability, the presence of other people, the concurrent use of other drugs, etc.). It is the amount of alcohol in the blood that causes the effects. In the following table, the left-hand column lists the number of milligrams of alcohol in each decilitre of blood - that is, the blood alcohol concentration, or BAC. (For example, an average person may get a blood alcohol concentration of 50 mg/dL after two drinks consumed quickly.) The right-hand column describes the usual effects of these amounts on normal people - those who haven't developed a tolerance to alcohol. BAC (ma/dL) Effect __________________________________________________ _______________ 50 Mild intoxication Feeling of warmth, skin flushed; impaired judgment; decreased inhibitions 100 Obvious intoxication in most people Increased impairment of judgment, inhibition, attention, and control; Some impairment of muscular performance; slowing of reflexes 150 Obvious intoxication in all normal people Staggering gait and other muscular incoordination; slurred speech; double vision; memory and comprehension loss 250 Extreme intoxication or stupor Reduced response to stimuli; inability to stand; vomiting; incontinence; sleepiness 350 Coma Unconsciousness; little response to stimuli; incontinence; low body temperature; poor respiration; fall in blood pressure; clammy skin 500 Death likely __________________________________________________ _______________ Drinking heavily over a short period of time usually results in a "hangover" - headache, nausea, shakiness, and sometimes vomiting, beginning from 8 to 12 hours later. A hangover is due partly to poisoning by alcohol and other components of the drink, and partly to the body's reaction to withdrawal from alcohol. [Erowid Note: Hangover are also partially due to dehydration.] Although there are dozens of home remedies suggested for hangovers, there is currently no known effective cure. [Erowid Note: A common technique for reducing or eliminating hangovers is simply to drink 10-30 ounces of water after any alcohol use and before sleep. This can dramatically reduce lasting unpleasant effects of heavy alcohol ingestion.] Combining alcohol with other drugs can make the effects of these other drugs much stronger and more dangerous. Many accidental deaths have occurred after people have used alcohol combined with other drugs. Cannabis, tranquillizers, barbiturates and other sleeping pills, or antihistamines (in cold, cough, and allergy remedies) should not be taken with alcohol. Even a small amount of alcohol with any of these drugs can seriously impair a person's ability to drive a car, for example. Long-term effects of alcohol appear after repeated use over a period of many months or years. The negative physical and psychological effects of chronic abuse are numerous; some are potentially life-threatening. Some of these harmful consequences are primary - that is, they result directly from prolonged exposure to alcohol's toxic effects (such as heart and liver disease or inflammation of the stomach). Others are secondary; indirectly related to chronic alcohol abuse, they ******* loss of appetite, vitamin deficiencies, infections, and sexual impotence or menstrual irregularities. The risk of serious disease increases with the amount of alcohol consumed. Early death rates are much higher for heavy drinkers than for light drinkers or abstainers, particularly from heart and liver disease, pneumonia, some types of cancer, acute alcohol poisoning, accident, homicide, and suicide. No precise limits of safe drinking can be recommended. According to 1988 figures from Statistics Canada, 2,828 deaths were directly attributable to alcohol in that year. There were, however, an estimated 13,870 more deaths - five times as many - indirectly caused by alcohol. Tolerance and Dependence : People who drink on a regular basis become tolerant to many of the unpleasant effects of alcohol, and thus are able to drink more before suffering these effects. Yet even with increased consumption, many such drinkers don't appear intoxicated. Because they continue to work and socialize reasonably well, their deteriorating physical condition may go unrecognized by others until severe damage develops - or until they are hospitalized for other reasons and suddenly experience alcohol withdrawal symptoms. Psychological dependence on alcohol may occur with regular use of even relatively moderate daily amounts. It may also occur in people who consume alcohol only under certain conditions, such as before and during social occasions. This form of dependence refers to a craving for alcohol's psychological effects, although not necessarily in amounts that produce serious intoxication. For psychologically dependent drinkers, the lack of alcohol tends to make them anxious and, in some cases, panicky. Physical dependence occurs in consistently heavy drinkers. Since their bodies have adapted to the presence of alcohol, they suffer withdrawal symptoms if they suddenly stop drinking. Withdrawal symptoms range from jumpiness, sleeplessness, sweating, and poor appetite, to tremors (the "shakes"), convulsions. hallucinations. and sometimes death. Alcohol and Pregnancy : Pregnant women who drink risk having babies with fetal alcohol effects (known as fetal alcohol syndrome or FAS). The most serious of these effects ******* mental retardation, growth deficiency, head and facial deformities, joint and limb abnormalities, and heart defects. While it is known that the risk of bearing an FAS-afflicted child increases with the amount of alcohol consumed, a safe level of consumption has not been determined. Who Uses Alcohol : In a 1990 nation-wide Gallup poll, 79% of adults reported they had at some point drunk alcohol. A 1989 survey of adults in Ontario found that 83% reported ever having used alcohol, with 55% saying they have five drinks or more at a single sitting and 10% reporting daily drinking. Among young people between 12 and 19 years, a 1985 national survey recorded 73% using alcohol at least once in the past year. Of Ontario students in grades 7, 9, 11, and 13 polled in 1989, 66% admitted to alcohol use, with more than 80% of the grade 11 and 13 students saying they drank. More than one in five of all those who drank said they did so more than once a week. Since the legal drinking age in Ontario is 19, it appears that alcohol has a high degree of social acceptance, whether legal or not. Total alcohol consumption in Canada during 1988/89 reached 202.9 million litres. This corresponds to an average annual consumption of 9.9 L of alcohol for each Canadian over the age of 15 - that is to say, about 11 drinks per week or a little under two drinks a day. Beer, making up 52% of the total volume, was the most popular drink, with spirits in second place at 31 %, and wine a distant third at 17%. In recent years, Canadians have spent about $9.6 billion a year for alcohol in retail stores and another estimated $2.6 billion for alcohol consumed in taverns and restaurants. There is a direct relationship between the overall level of consumption within a population and the number of alcohol- dependent people. A nation with a low per capita consumption rate has a lower number of heavy users, whereas one with widespread use and high per capita consumption has a proportionately higher rate of alcohol-related diseases and deaths. Most researchers agree that one in 20 drinkers in North America has an alcohol dependency problem.   |
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10-06-2003, 04:20 PM
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The conclusion I want you to draw is, there are just about as many long term physical/psychological effects for alcohol as there are cocaine. The only difference between the two is people justify alcohol with its legality. And last time I checked the law and mind are two completely seperate entities. One might think "Why would 'they' make it legal if it was bad for you". Simply put, too many people are addicted to it or use it as a basic social necessity. You're justifying your use of alcohol as "at least it isn't cocaine". You've never done cocaine so you're also using this as a basis for judgement. You might have seen plenty of people become addicted to it, but I can guarantee you've seen far more become addicted to alcohol, you just shrug it off or laugh...because stuff like that is usually considered funny.
More people per-year die from alchohol or alcohol related deaths each year than cocaine, it's a fact. The percentage of people who blindly ingest alchohol is far higher than any other substance on the planet. It's clearly more addictive than any amount of cocaine because it's blinded the administrative eyes through "We simply cannot make something like this illegal". Every other substance is illegal except the ones that you simply cannot make illegal due to mass addiction or some degree of dependancy. Does that strike you as funny? |
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