king crimson

[cap'n jazz]

after being a "larks' tongues in aspic"/"starless and bible black"/"red"-era purist for so long, i today realised that "the construkction of light" and "the power to believe" are, in fact, good records.

my shit music taste and i thank you for your time.

[Glare Seethe]

I unfortunately don't have the new one yet (I always cite lack of funds as the reason, but I just realized I actually do have some money now... hmm), but "The ConstruKction of Light" is monstrous.

First and foremost, the title track. Unbelievable. Especially the part that starts at around 3:00. Fucking beautiful - interlocking guitars at their best. Next, ProzaKc Blues and Larks' IV are both awesome tracks, with a great Belew solo and a great Fripp solo, respectively. FraKctured... well, I don't really know what to say about it. It's pretty cool. The "fairy fingers" parts are the best, though. And how can anyone not love Heaven and Earth?

It's odd to me that this album was so hated by many fans... I think their main reason was that it didn't live up to the expectations after the ProjeKcts, but I can't comment cause I don't have the ProjeKcts boxset (once again, lack of funds). But looking at it objectively, it is a really, really good album. Quite possibly one of their best.

What I really like about King Crimson these days is the spaciness in their music. Some of it makes me feel like I'm stranded on the abandoned wrecks of a space station or something. Credit Fripp's soundscapes, I guess.

In short, yes, King Crimson today = good.

[cap'n jazz]

Originally posted by Glare Seethe
Some of it makes me feel like I'm stranded on the abandoned wrecks of a space station or something.

As silly as that analogy sounds, I understand completely. The guitar tone is quite strange in it's clarity and shimmering quality, which adds to the "space station"-esque vibe a lot.

[Glare Seethe]

Originally posted by cap'n jazz
As silly as that analogy sounds, I understand completely. The guitar tone is quite strange in it's clarity and shimmering quality, which adds to the "space station"-esque vibe a lot.

Plus the soundscapes add a lot to it, I think. Some of the pieces are more moody, more like floating in space, and some of the more ferocious ones would probably fit nicely on the soundtrack to Alien, you know? It is mostly the instrumental pieces that evoke such images for me - Heaven and Earth for example, plus all the improvisations from "Heavy ConstruKction", if you have it (if you don't, go buy it - it's great).

On TCOL specifically, the artwork obviously accommodates this as well...

[MstrGhost]

I really loved The Power to belive, actually made a thread about it while ago. Level 5 is amongst (imho) their best songs ever.

[sleeper]

ive been waiting to check out there stuff for a while. tell me where to begin, what tracks should i download?

[eyesbomb]

Originally posted by sleeper
what tracks should i download?

call me retro, but: Epitaph

[Glare Seethe]

Originally posted by sleeper
ive been waiting to check out there stuff for a while. tell me where to begin, what tracks should i download?

Separated by eras:

'69-'72: 21st Century Schizoid Man, Cirkus, Lady of the Dancing Water, A Sailor's Tale

'72-'74: Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part 2, Easy Money, The Great Deceiver, The Night Watch, Fallen Angel, One More Red Nightmare, Starless

'81-'84: Frame By Frame, Indiscipline, Thela Hun Ginjeet, Man With An Open Heart, Three of A Perfect Pair

I don't have "Thrak" yet for some reason, so I'll skip '94-'97.

'00-'03: The ConstruKction of Light, Heaven and Earth, Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part 4, ProzaKc Blues.

Can't recommend anything off the new one yet as I don't have it. I also skipped over a couple of albums that I dont have, "Beat" and "In the Wake of Poseidon". I've really been slacking...

[ZackZ]

I won't claim to be a huge King Crimson fan. I enjoy In the Court of the Crimson King and In the Wake of Poseidon. The rest I've heard from them hasn't been very enticing.

I'll throw this out there: Genesis is the best progressive band of all time.

[distance]

Originally posted by cap'n jazz
after being a "larks' tongues in aspic"/"starless and bible black"/"red"-era purist for so long, i today realised that "the construkction of light" and "the power to believe" are, in fact, good records.

my shit music taste and i thank you for your time.

how does starless compare to those other two? i own larks tongues and red.

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

Originally posted by distance


how does starless compare to those other two? i own larks tongues and red.

Uneven. Not nearly as good as the other two. Although it does have "Trio" and "Fracture" which are both classics.

[cap'n jazz]

Originally posted by Mr Snatch-O-Rama
Uneven. Not nearly as good as the other two. Although it does have "Trio" and "Fracture" which are both classics.

"Lament" is pretty good too.

[cap'n jazz]

Originally posted by ZackZ
I'll throw this out there: Genesis is the best progressive band of all time.

My friend played me some of their stuff yesterday; it's good. The keyboard-heavy bits remind me of my beloved Yes, too

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

Originally posted by cap'n jazz


"Lament" is pretty good too.

Yar, i'd say that that's the best of the rockier songs - both "Night Watch" (classic solo) and "Great Deciever" (classic riff) are great too. The main problem i have with SABB are the other improvs though - We'll Let You Know, The Mincer and especially the title track have never done anything for me.

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

And I would have to agree that Genesis is the best prog band. Go and hear "Supper's Ready" if you haven't already...but you have to hear "Musical Box", "Return of the Giant Hogweed", "Fountain of Salmacis", "Watcher of the Skies", "The Lamia", "Dancing With The Moonlit Knight" as well....anything from Trespass to Wind and Wuthering will do just fine.

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

Oh, yes. And DON'T EVER EVER EVER EVER even think about buying Calling All Shit-stains.

[ZackZ]

I love all of Selling England by the Pound and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. I think Duke is ok. Duke's Travels/Duke's End have some EXTREMELY good drumming.

Cinema Show is my favorite track.

[cap'n jazz]

NEWSFLASH:

Yes from about 1970-72 pwnz every band, ever.

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

Originally posted by cap'n jazz
NEWSFLASH:

Yes from about 1970-72 pwnz every band, ever.

Incorrect. Sure, the Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge all rule, but they're not Nursery Cryme, Selling England By The Pound and Lamb Lies Down on Broadway!

[aldango]

Originally posted by Mr Snatch-O-Rama


Incorrect. Sure, the Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge all rule, but they're not Nursery Cryme, Selling England By The Pound and Lamb Lies Down on Broadway!

However, Yes pwzned over Genesis with Tales From Topographic Oceans & Relayer.

(They both rule. Yum)

[cap'n jazz]

Originally posted by zekix
However, Yes pwzned over Genesis with Tales From Topographic Oceans & Relayer.

(They both rule. Yum)

Yeah, they're good, but CLOSE TO THE EDGE?!?!?!? HELLO?!?!?!? SIBERIAN KHATRU!?!?!?!?!? WHA~~~???????

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

SUPPER'S READY? LIKE, HELLO????

[cap'n jazz]

Originally posted by Mr Snatch-O-Rama
SUPPER'S READY? LIKE, HELLO????

LOL,. LIKE PHIL COLLINS?!?! I CAN'T FUCKEN WALK SO I'LL WRITE A SONG/ALBUM ABOUT IT!?!?!?!?

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

LOL, LIKE 'OWNER OF A LONELY HEART', LOL? LOL LIKE 'RICK WAKEMAN'S MYTHS AND LEGENDS OF KING ARTHUR' LOL? LOL LIKE 'ANDERSON BRUFORD WAKEMAN HOWE' LOL? LOL LIKE 'UNION' LOL? LOL LIKE 'EVERY SINGLE SONG YES RECORDED AFTER GOING FOR THE ONE' LOL? LOL!!!!!

[cap'n jazz]

[cap'n jazz]

I'm going to keep this thread going FOREVAR.

Some more prog-jhkhfzsnashjks:

Gentle Giant ('In A Glass House' is a really fine record, I decided last week)
Van Der Graaf Generator (A friend gave me 'Pawn Hearts'; it's enjoyable)
Jethro Tull (awesome)

Um, discuss these bands as well? I guess. This can be the official prog-nonsense thread. Yeszzdscf

[Glare Seethe]

In the end, King Crimson own all of those bands cause they never turned into shit and are the only ones of the prog bands that are still making relevant music.

Unless you consider Jethro Tull prog. I don't. But if you do, they destroy pretty much all of the others... it's true that they've seriously gone downhill from the mid-80s and on (yeah, okay, they suck now), but the good stuff is so good that it doesn't matter. I'm of those who believe that they were only really prog in '72-'73. The rest of the stuff has lots of progressive elements in it, but in the end is also so different from the others that I don't really think they should count.

There's also Gong - lots of fun. And Camel are awesome. But Tull and Crimson rule all.

It's interesting how there's a similar pattern with a lot of 70s artists, the way their career progressed through the last three decades: the 70s were awesome, the 80s sucked horribly and the 90s brought some sort of a return to form, although none of it ever came close to the golden years.

[cap'n jazz]

I have MU: The Best Of Jethro Tull. It's good, but NOW I WANT MORE so tell me an album and i'll try and get it.

[PMPkInBoi331979]

king crimson sucks, man

[Mr Snatch-O-Rama]

Originally posted by cap'n jazz
I have MU: The Best Of Jethro Tull. It's good, but NOW I WANT MORE so tell me an album and i'll try and get it.

Benefit's my favourite. Stand Up and Thick As A Brick are also excellent.