Let’s talk about the primary - Page 3

vixnix · 02-17-2019, 07:50 PM

Definitely. My understanding is that the magnitude of her financial reward is much larger than his, but I could well be wrong.

In my mind that’s part of what makes her a good politician. The heart feeds itself first, guise.

Elphenor · 02-17-2019, 10:44 PM

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I think that’s the thing about Hillary Clinton. She’s a good politician. Some people think good politicians are the best people to elect to the legislature. Some people think they are the worst people to elect to a legislature. I guess it depends on your own boundary for where pragmatism turns into soul selling

that'd be all well and good but she lost to Donald Trump

Elphenor · 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

Still waiting for the amendment king examples btw.

here's 90 that passed on a spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...nkM/edit#gid=0

just so you know I didn't make the term up or something

roll call amendment king to be fair

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-king-1995-2/

nothing as sexy as the Consumer Financial Protection Agency I suppose, but kinda puts into perspective this idea that the former political scientist is just a grand-stander

Elphenor · 02-17-2019, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

What are you even talking about. The bankruptcy legislation that passed when Hillary Clinton didn’t hold elected office?

yes...well no the first time around she actually convinced Bill to Veto it

then when she became a senator herself...

it's Warren's criticism "the impact of money" I'm asking if you think it's fair

TuralyonW3 · 02-17-2019, 11:59 PM

This primary could be a real shitshow

Eulogy · 02-18-2019, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Elphenor

here's 90 that passed on a spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...nkM/edit#gid=0

just so you know I didn't make the term up or something

roll call amendment king to be fair

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-king-1995-2/

nothing as sexy as the Consumer Financial Protection Agency I suppose, but kinda puts into perspective this idea that the former political scientist is just a grand-stander

That link sort of seems to undermine your point a little?

And I just don’t want to talk about Clinton anymore. If we relitigate 2016 during this process we will all die.

I think we need a constitutional amendment to undo citizens united. Won’t happen any time soon. But I don’t think we disagree on this issue.

Elphenor · 02-19-2019, 05:30 AM

I think Kamala Harris is a good candidate

Elphenor · 02-19-2019, 05:38 AM

Tulsi Gabbard's comments on torture and her previous homophobia makes her really difficult to support

Elphenor · 02-19-2019, 10:00 AM

oh Bernie is running now

Eulogy · 02-19-2019, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Elphenor

Tulsi Gabbard's comments on torture and her previous homophobia makes her really difficult to support

Among other things

buzzard · 02-19-2019, 12:15 PM

What, roughly, is a typical number of Democrat candidates?

MplsTaper · 01:42 PM

Good question, here's 2016 and 2020. Seems to be around a dozen.

Edit: Wikipedia has a button near the upper right hand corner that goes all the way back to 1912. Not as many folks running for the nomination back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_D...tial_primaries

ninsp · 02-19-2019, 01:59 PM

why the fuck is bernie running again

he's like 90. i was a bernie bro first go around, but it's over. ffs

smashingjj · 02-19-2019, 03:02 PM

the primary what

Disco King · 02-19-2019, 04:31 PM

Kamala "Prison Slave Labour is a-okay" Harris

A true progressive

Eulogy · 02-19-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Disco King

Kamala "Prison Slave Labour is a-okay" Harris

A true progressive

Sigh. Can we not

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkpr...68fd447a4/amp/

If you think this is disqualifying then great but I don’t want everything reduced to a sound bite about how everyone but Bernie is impure. Especially when Bernie’s statements accompanying his rollout seem pretty racist and sexist and tone deaf.

vixnix · 02-19-2019, 05:08 PM

Ber-nie! Ber-nie! Ber-nie!!!

FEEL THE BERN!!!

FEEL THE BERN!!!!!!!!

yo soy el mejor · 02-19-2019, 08:44 PM

ironically, "good politicians" aren't fit leaders.

Elphenor · 02-19-2019, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

Especially when Bernie’s statements accompanying his rollout seem pretty racist and sexist and tone deaf.

I don't get that vibe at all

I sort of understood it in 2016 with the BLM fiasco

Elphenor · 02-19-2019, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ninsp

why the fuck is bernie running again

he's like 90. i was a bernie bro first go around, but it's over. ffs

he's a whopping 2 years older than Trump

and doesnt eat fast food 2 meals a day

Elphenor · 02-19-2019, 09:30 PM

hashtag Bernie would have won

Run To Me · 02-19-2019, 11:16 PM

Are there any candidates that are good or great and excellent and very loud, maybe the best and loudest ever of all time? Any where people are saying, many people are talking about how creative they are with the insults and diminutive nicknames? Do the men have big hands/penises and how are the thighmeats of the ladies? Lookin for a candidate with larger than life nigh cartoonish antics that will entertain me nonstop with a sort of feverdream sensation of “this can’t really be happening right” like the dreams i have most nights of careening off the freeway at top speed toward the tops of the trees waiting to catch me in the comforting silent gloom of the gulch below

ninsp · 02-20-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Elphenor

he's a whopping 2 years older than Trump

and doesnt eat fast food 2 meals a day

Exactly. Haven’t we had enough of elderly dementia-riddled white dudes

Disco King · 02-20-2019, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

Sigh. Can we not

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkpr...68fd447a4/amp/

If you think this is disqualifying then great but I don’t want everything reduced to a sound bite about how everyone but Bernie is impure. Especially when Bernie’s statements accompanying his rollout seem pretty racist and sexist and tone deaf.

I don't really think it would be "disqualifying," I'd literally support any Democratic nominee against any Republican nominee in any situation short of realignment.

Also, yeah, looks like I was wrong about Harris making those comments, and, according to her, she was unaware the Attorney General's office was arguing for It's continuation in court.

I don't think Sanders, or anyone, is pure. I think everyone is worthy of criticism and, regardless of who wins, should be held accountable so that people know what they are dealing with. You can support and even vote for somebody without overlooking their flaws.

FoolofaTook · 02-20-2019, 01:20 PM

Jesus is pure.

Boris is pure.

Chris Johnson is pure.

Check yourself.

Elphenor · 02-20-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ninsp

Exactly. Haven’t we had enough of elderly dementia-riddled white dudes

"old and white, male" is not the best reason to overlook a very strong candidate imo

it'd be the first Jewish president how about that

plus wtf he was still old as dirt when you were a self-proclaimed Bernie Bro

ninsp · 02-20-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Elphenor

"old and white, male" is not the best reason to overlook a very strong candidate imo

it'd be the first Jewish president how about that

plus wtf he was still old as dirt when you were a self-proclaimed Bernie Bro

I was idealistic before Trump

Elphenor · 02-20-2019, 04:02 PM

I became an anarchist

redbreegull · 02-20-2019, 04:09 PM

bottom line is one of these folks is gonna be the nominee, and whoever it is is going to have some baggage and not be ideologically pure enough for whatever segment of the electorate

however anyone who does not cast a vote for this person, regardless of who it winds up being, is an abject moral failure, a cognitively stunted troglodyte, and should be drug out into the street at the crack of dawn and shot

buzzard · 02-20-2019, 04:12 PM

Hillary was meant to hack all those voting machines and win before immediately succumbing to degenerative illness. What happened?

02-19-2019, 01:27 PM	#72
MplsTaper Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,000	Good question, here's 2016 and 2020. Seems to be around a dozen. Edit: Wikipedia has a button near the upper right hand corner that goes all the way back to 1912. Not as many folks running for the nomination back then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_D...tial_primaries Last edited by MplsTaper : 02-19-2019 at 01:42 PM.

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02-17-2019, 07:50 PM	#61
vixnix Socialphobic Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria Posts: 12,035	Definitely. My understanding is that the magnitude of her financial reward is much larger than his, but I could well be wrong. In my mind that’s part of what makes her a good politician. The heart feeds itself first, guise.

02-17-2019, 11:59 PM	#65
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	This primary could be a real shitshow

02-19-2019, 05:30 AM	#67
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	I think Kamala Harris is a good candidate

02-19-2019, 05:38 AM	#68
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	Tulsi Gabbard's comments on torture and her previous homophobia makes her really difficult to support

02-19-2019, 10:00 AM	#69
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	oh Bernie is running now

02-19-2019, 12:15 PM	#71
buzzard Minion of Satan Posts: 6,519	What, roughly, is a typical number of Democrat candidates?

02-19-2019, 01:59 PM	#73
ninsp Apocalyptic Poster Location: “Honkie.” - yo soy Posts: 2,880	why the fuck is bernie running again he's like 90. i was a bernie bro first go around, but it's over. ffs

02-19-2019, 03:02 PM	#74
smashingjj that person Location: LOL Party Centre Posts: 35,615	the primary what

02-19-2019, 04:31 PM	#75
Disco King Minion of Satan Location: Banned Posts: 7,689	Kamala "Prison Slave Labour is a-okay" Harris A true progressive

02-19-2019, 05:08 PM	#77
vixnix Socialphobic Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria Posts: 12,035	Ber-nie! Ber-nie! Ber-nie!!! FEEL THE BERN!!! FEEL THE BERN!!!!!!!!

02-19-2019, 08:44 PM	#78
yo soy el mejor Banned Location: all over the Internet Posts: 43,693	ironically, "good politicians" aren't fit leaders.

02-19-2019, 09:30 PM	#81
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	hashtag Bernie would have won

02-19-2019, 11:16 PM	#82
Run To Me Minion of Satan Location: Where the frog spoils the leaf Posts: 5,992	Are there any candidates that are good or great and excellent and very loud, maybe the best and loudest ever of all time? Any where people are saying, many people are talking about how creative they are with the insults and diminutive nicknames? Do the men have big hands/penises and how are the thighmeats of the ladies? Lookin for a candidate with larger than life nigh cartoonish antics that will entertain me nonstop with a sort of feverdream sensation of “this can’t really be happening right” like the dreams i have most nights of careening off the freeway at top speed toward the tops of the trees waiting to catch me in the comforting silent gloom of the gulch below

02-20-2019, 01:20 PM	#85
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Posts: 35,701	Jesus is pure. Boris is pure. Chris Johnson is pure. Check yourself.

02-20-2019, 04:02 PM	#88
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	I became an anarchist

02-20-2019, 04:09 PM	#89
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: WILD BOY Posts: 32,027	bottom line is one of these folks is gonna be the nominee, and whoever it is is going to have some baggage and not be ideologically pure enough for whatever segment of the electorate however anyone who does not cast a vote for this person, regardless of who it winds up being, is an abject moral failure, a cognitively stunted troglodyte, and should be drug out into the street at the crack of dawn and shot

02-20-2019, 04:12 PM	#90
buzzard Minion of Satan Posts: 6,519	Hillary was meant to hack all those voting machines and win before immediately succumbing to degenerative illness. What happened?