when did you start drinking and using drugs?

[ilikeplanets]

Originally Posted by Disco King

I've still got some MDMA kicking around, but I'm yet to try it.

I honestly don't know how someone has the restraint to leave something like mdma just sitting there. i admire but do not possess that trait. it'd be loooooong gone if it was in my possession.

[ilikeplanets]

Originally Posted by reprise85

soon hydros became shit of course because oxy rules the day

hydros are so much worse for your liver, actually. percs are too but they feel at least a little better. but in terms of pills dilaudid>oxy and if you can do it right opana>dilaudid. but dillies are the best bet. be hard to catch me turn down an M Box regardless, back in the day. even an op which was supposed to be uninjectable but of course it wasn't. ugh what a horrible habit

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

how do you guys even find people who sell all that shit

srs question

just finding a good weed guy is difficult enough

I believe it's quite a bit easier to find drugs in the US. I can't say for sure, but people told me it was much harder to find any sort of hard drug in Israel. Of course I randomly found ecstasy there, but like most of my drug experiences, the drugs kind of found me.

but yeah weed can often lead to other things IME, and a weed dealer is at least more likely to be able to tell you where to get something harder. I also tend to break the drug barrier with new acquaintances fairly quickly because if you don't like or at least tolerate drugs, you probably won't like me very much as a person. Once people know you are "down" you are more likely to encounter an opportunity to get some fuckin shrooms or whatever

[vixnix]

I'm bipolar so I spend money as quickly as I receive it when I'm not medicated. Anybody who wants drugs and can't afford them, knows how to hook someone like me up, for a small reward. I don't ask for it, they approach me, because of what's in it for them.

I was 19 when I left NZ, boarding a one-way flight to London with a 60 day stopover in NY, $180 USD in my pocket, given to me by my boyfriend. It sounds ridiculous but I was that manic, and that psychotic, that I figured everything would work out somehow.

I was 19, in NY, with a bright blue acoustic guitar I'd dragged from NZ, a fully manual Nikon slung around my neck, who chain smoked Marlboro lights, quoted Noam Chomsky, enjoyed a good game of chess, rolled a good joint, wore all black. A walking, obnoxious cliche, who happened to also have a nice smile.

It was a popular and very uncommon schtick in the U.S. at that time, so I was invited as a kind of circus attraction to a lot of places. Just luck, I guess.

Incredible luck really, because it was 1999. So nobody was uploading photos and videos of all my terrible and degrading decisions.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

hydros are so much worse for your liver, actually. percs are too but they feel at least a little better. but in terms of pills dilaudid>oxy and if you can do it right opana>dilaudid. but dillies are the best bet. be hard to catch me turn down an M Box regardless, back in the day. even an op which was supposed to be uninjectable but of course it wasn't. ugh what a horrible habit

well it's the APAP that is a liver killer

i never did dilaudid/opana etc. oxy, hydro, methadone, suboxone (which you can get high as shit on if you don't have a high tolerance to opiods at the time), tramadol (which i like a lot). also i only injected one time and was like what the fuck am i doing. the methadone was dumb but it was a short lived thing when i was afraid of doing roxys, lol. my friend who went to rehab for xanax (and later died from prob opiates or a mix) was like "methadone is the WORST promise me no matter what you'll stop the methadone" and at that point i wasn't physically addicted yet so i agreed. i probably did it 20-30 times or something total.

i knew these two brothers joe and josh, one of them ODed on methadone and xanax one night, the brother found him when he woke up (they were doing shit together). a month later the brother blew his brains out after leaving detox. they were waaaay gone, always high as shit and have abscesses and getting in car accidents etc like it wasn't exactly a surprise. and although i didnt know them that well i still think of them fairly often

[ilikeplanets]

that's really fucking horrible and i'm sorry to hear that. it's always the damn methadone, somehow. my friend/friend's mom (same person, i was friends with both) gave herself a stroke and permanent paralysis, almost complete paralysis, by injecting methadone incorrectly somehow. Actually it was my roommate at the time who pushed the shot but she was a major fiend and wouldn't stop shaking and freaking out until he did it. He was super reluctant because shooting methadone is obviously a DUMB DUMB idea, and he followed the ambulance to the hospital and stayed there for days feeling guilty. Not a bad guy, but same guy who got me into shooting up, too. Just messed up but kind hearted underneath, when he's not consumed with his own addiction problems. Then he's a serious lying bastard. The daughter is still close with him, too. I don't know how, I guess they just knew each other too long and are all fucked up people quite honestly. And she has two kids under age 4, the youngest just one month older than my daughter. She doesn't have custody though, thankfully. I really hope I'm not so blinded and disgusting anymore. Parents like that have always sickened me even when I was in the midst of it. Reliving this shit is nauseating sometimes. And sometimes it's nostalgic. Tonight it's definitely nauseating. Progress.

[reprise85]

you're doing good now with your kid. the past is the past

[ilikeplanets]

Thank you. There's a lot of bad stuff not related to drugs happening to me and my family so nice words are nice. <3

[smashingjj]

Uh today?

[FlamingGlobes]

Wow, the last page of this thread makes me really glad I never explored beyond weed.

And I don't mean that to shit upon anyone or their experiences, but dayum. I can't imagine the shambles my already tenuous existence would be in if I had given into any of those substances.

Glad you guys...err, gals survived it.

[FoolofaTook]

Hard drugs can go to hell. I almost killed myself on Dexadrine. Fuck that shit yo.

Today is one week since I bought an eighth and haven't smoked so much as a tidbit bowl.

[ilikeplanets]

good job. yay for goals!

[ilikeplanets]

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

Wow, the last page of this thread makes me really glad I never explored beyond weed.

And I don't mean that to shit upon anyone or their experiences, but dayum. I can't imagine the shambles my already tenuous existence would be in if I had given into any of those substances.

Glad you guys...err, gals survived it.

thanks. and for all the scary shit i've seen i also had a helluva lot of fun. it just depends on how far you take it and if you can stop. i couldn't always and that was the problem. but i always had a blast with non addictive hard drugs like psychedelics and dissociatives. they aren't problem free though. it's probably best to stay away if you think you should. i wouldn't trade my experiences, as they shaped me, but different decisions might have made my life easier now. meh.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

Wow, the last page of this thread makes me really glad I never explored beyond weed.

And I don't mean that to shit upon anyone or their experiences, but dayum. I can't imagine the shambles my already tenuous existence would be in if I had given into any of those substances.

Glad you guys...err, gals survived it.

yeah man. from 2004 to 2010 was really tenuous for me, although worst was like 2005-2007. i never was proper addicted to opiates after about 2009. i did suboxone maintenance for a few months and came off it pretty easy. i sporadically did them since then but no physical addiction or it running my life so it's been a while since all that happened. the crack smoking all happened within a 1-3 month period in 2008. crack is the shittiest drug ever, it feels great for about 3 minutes and then the rest of the time you are doing it just trying to not feel like shit. and you will spend all of your money on this. i didnt have money at this time though so i never spent much on it, i got some from driving a dealer around (prob the most dangerous thing i did b/c of possibility of being caught) but i soon realized i'd rather my payment in weed. this dude was actually a pretty nice guy besides being a crack dealer (he legit sent all his money to his mom in another state, at least i heard him talking to his mom on the phone about it), but there was another dealer that hung around the crackhouse who always had a gun in his lap it was scary shit

the whole crackhouse stuff was only from like idk like dec 2007-feb 2008 or something. and it was probably the nicest crackhouse ever it wasn't even in the ghetto, but it was still a crackhouse

[noyen]

13

[toase]

20, 21

I'm always late

[Run To Me]

19 = first beer
21 = first weed
22 = full blown alcoholism, weed still mostly used for curing hangovers and/or listening to siamese dream on headphones
23 = first shrooms, get so enthusiastic about them that i briefly grow them in my closet, resulting in eating them nearly every day for a month or so
28 = quit drinking, but to compensate, start smoking weed all/ever night + all weekend
30 = crippling depression forces moving weed to only fri/sat nite, some sat daytimes
34 = microhits or no hits

cig/chews: somewhere during the full-blown drinkin from 22-28 got hooked on nicotine for a few years, needed to chew off-brand nicorettes for like a whole year to kick it

still would like to do shrooms @ least once a year but can never find them, just lsd, which scares me, still haven't tried

[FoolofaTook]

You quit drinking completely?

[Run To Me]

correct, i havent had one drop of booze since 10-5-10

[FoolofaTook]

Nice! And quit tobacco too huh. You give me hope.

[FoolofaTook]

I also want to try lsd and hope to do shrooms again. but not now. my head is so fucked i. scared of what will happen when i finally break my fast and hit this 20% indica optimus prime.

[Run To Me]

thank you, yes, there's always hope; soldier on my brother

i think shrooms helped me quit drinking, honestly

there's no hiding from yourself on them: breaks the poison mirage of denial which is perhaps the most fundamental psychological component of my personal brand of suicidal alcoholism

[cork_soaker]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

first shrooms, get so enthusiastic about them that i briefly grow them in my closet, resulting in eating them nearly every day for a month or so

this bit gave me laffs

[Run To Me]

What sucks of daily shroomin is how your tolerance skyrockets

So basically have to pile a big barf-inducing pile of em onto an entire plate of French toasts to get even kinda weird

[cork_soaker]

i, too, abandoned alcohol in 2013, namely because any amount, regardless of variety or context, seemed to make me feel considerably less than ideal

much of adult life, i find, revolves around noting which tools actually work for managing stress, and, just as importantly, prioritizing time to use them

i like walks

[cork_soaker]

and talks

[cork_soaker]

and ginger lemon tea

[FoolofaTook]

I too like walks. I have seen falling stars, senescent sunsets/rises, and hella roadkill.

Yesterday a pickup roared past me thru a puddle of slush, drenching my left side from beanie to boot. Americans...

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

What sucks of daily shroomin is how your tolerance skyrockets

So basically have to pile a big barf-inducing pile of em onto an entire plate of French toasts to get even kinda weird

[FoolofaTook]

Raspberry rose > ginger lemon