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Old 12-16-2017, 08:50 PM   #1
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Default What was Billy's Siamese Dream?

Yeah it's the album title.

Yeah there's a reference to a dream Billy had where he is a siamese twin connected at the wrist, referenced in Geek USA.

Yeah there's actually a song called "Siamese Dream".

But what exactly was this Siamese Dream? Is it all there in the lyrics for Geek USA?

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In a dream
We are connected
Siamese twins
At the wrist
And then I knew we'd been forsaken
Expelled from paradise
I can't believe them
When they say that it's alright
I can't really make sense of it and want to know why the hell Billy was having a dream of being a siamese twin. Connected at the wrist...like lovers holding hands??

 
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:58 PM   #2
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Lover, lover let's pretend we were born as innocents

 
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:13 PM   #3
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It's a romantic poetry directed at his feelings for Courtney Love

 
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:20 PM   #4
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I think I found a valuable clue to the "Siamese Dream Mystery" in these lyrics to Bring The Light:

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Light
Bring the light
I never felt so good and right
But tonight
You'll never need another sound
Oh bring the light
Bring the light to me
What do you think? I think this is a clue to the identity of the "siamese twin".

 
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Old 12-17-2017, 01:23 AM   #5
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Yet another clue?


 
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:34 AM   #6
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His Siamese Dream was to form a tag-team with Hulk Hogan. The song Geek USA is about the Hulkster.

 
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Old 12-17-2017, 04:54 PM   #7
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Incest.

and, of course, father-fucking.

which is incest so we've come like full circle.

 
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:20 AM   #8
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The term "siamese dream" represents the duality of the album, the soft, fragile side - and also the harder, more aggressive side.

 
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Old 12-18-2017, 04:09 PM   #9
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"connected,,, ,,,at the wrists"
it's a suicide pact guys.
slitting your wrist with your lover/friend

the guy's talking about suicide being a sin and depression ,,,,
'then I knew we had forsaken, expelled from paradise
I can't believe it, when they say that it's alright"

kind of redic that you think it's a mystery.

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“I was suicidal, and I’d been plotting my own death for about two months, and if you’ve ever read anything about the warning signs of suicide one of them is you give away all your stuff, and I’d given away all my stuff, I gave away all my records, I started giving away my guitars. I was fantasising about my own death, I started thinking what my funeral would be like and what music would be played, I was at that level of insanity.”
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/music/smashi...VoiFz93ZTJ3.99

 
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Old 12-19-2017, 12:05 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by T&T View Post


kind of redic that you think it's a mystery.
You're free to believe whatever you'd like, but I think it goes much deeper than that.




I think I found another clue in these lyrics to French Movie Theme:

Quote:
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Bonjour!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Bonjour!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Bonjour!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
I think it's obvious based on the evidence above that the mysterious "Siamese Twin" was a French girl.

 
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Old 12-19-2017, 12:36 AM   #11
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"Shot full of diamonds"...and here we have the jack of diamonds on the cover of this mystery novel...

Coincidence? I think not.

 
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:50 AM   #12
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French girl....



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Old 12-19-2017, 01:52 AM   #13
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I still think it's patriarchal incest.

 
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:56 AM   #14
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...or French guy. The truth will come out eventually.

 
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:07 AM   #15
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If the guy is Neige or Fursey I am like totes down.

I just want to cuddle with them.

 
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Old 12-19-2017, 11:45 PM   #16
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Quote:
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

Widow wake my mind
Widow wake my mind
Widow wake my mind
Widow wake my mind
A French widow who gave him LSD?

 
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Old 12-25-2017, 03:44 PM   #17
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IIRC he said in the confessions that the name just came to him when he was on the phone with someone. so he must have written the song after he titled the record

also let's consider the possible faux pas committed by titling an album in reference to a racist term for a horrible deformity

 
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Old 12-25-2017, 05:01 PM   #18
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it was the 90s, man

 
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Old 12-25-2017, 08:48 PM   #19
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is "shot full of diamonds" a lyric about a money shot?

thanks that's my time

 
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:17 AM   #20
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But what is a money shot?

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And a million years
Money + Time = The Age of Elders

 
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Old 12-26-2017, 03:09 PM   #21
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DemonUnicorns, sibling of ImagineDragons

 
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