Harvey Weinstein thread

[redbreegull]

trans people are one of the most vulnerable, oppressed, and victimized segments of society. the suicide rate among trans people is unreal (although lower, at least among kids, who take hormones or go through transitional surgery). they are one of (if not the) most targeted groups when it comes to violent hate crimes and murder.

fuzzy you are just a bad person. truly.

[reprise85]

like it's amazing you literally have no ability to think outside your own perspective. fucking be humble and accept that you don't understand it but that doesn't mean it's wrong

@fuzzy

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

A very basic concept that fuzzy will likely never be able to wrap his head around.

I embrace it just fine. I actually agree with most of what you're saying. But in that case, why go all out and pump artificial hormones throughout your system to try and be like what society paints that a woman should be?

It occurs to me when there's transgender children that they often realize it by what kind of clothes they wanna wear, or how they wanna style their hair, or what kinds of toys they wanna play with... And these are all gender appropriated stereotypes that are shoved down from the culture in the first place. So why should that act as any sort of conclusive proof? "Oh our son is gravitating towards girls toys and clothes, that's proof he's really a girl!"

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Well................. I.............. feel............ like...... looking......... like..... Brad.................. Pitt................... inside, but I gotta live with solace and accept that it's never gonna happen. I could go extreme with plastic surgery and attempt to do all that I can, but it's probably not gonna make me all that satisfied.

if you don't see the difference i can't help you

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

sigh. you don't know how other people feel. obviously it's worth it to them to be able to be their true selves. people can take medications and still be tranquil. just stop

"true selves" are just something that people are chasing in their mind. It's almost an obsession.

I feel like my true self is a man with a big dick, but it's simply not true. Shouldn't I be able to be my true self? I wish... But hey I live with it and work on finding peace within myself.

You clearly disagree and I respect that and I respect that people should have the freedom to do what they want to do. But do I have to personally think it's a movement based in good mental health? No I don't. But that's just how I feel. I'm not trying to shove my opinion down anyones throat. I just feel like I shouldn't be attacked for my beliefs.

You guys are gonna have a real hard time succeeding in this world if you feel the need for others to believe the exact same things that you do... Just something to think about...

[LaBelle]

You should be attacked by your beliefs when your beliefs result in attacking others.

[MarquisInSpades]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

trans people are one of the most vulnerable, oppressed, and victimized segments of society. the suicide rate among trans people is unreal (although lower, at least among kids, who take hormones or go through transitional surgery). they are one of (if not the) most targeted groups when it comes to violent hate crimes and murder.

fuzzy you are just a bad person. truly.

The transgender suicide rate, apparently, is 40%. The last time the suicide rate among a community was so high was with Jews, living in Nazi Germany. The notion that the suicide rate among transgender people in modern society is the same as the suicide rate of Jews in Nazi Germany is ridiculous and has absolutely no evidence to back it up.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

if you don't see the difference i can't help you

It's a similar correlation.

Some people have all the confidence in the world and believe that they're quite good looking in their own minds when other people overwhelmingly find them to be unattractive. It's just a disconnect in the mind. It's why some people can never stop getting plastic surgery... Who they are in their mind just becomes unattainable. And this happens quite a bit with transgender people.

[LaBelle]

Also beliefs based in disinformation and preconceived notions aren't really beliefs.

[LaBelle]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

It's a similar correlation.

Some people have all the confidence in the world and believe that they're quite good looking in their own minds when other people overwhelmingly find them to be unattractive. It's just a disconnect in the mind. It's why some people can never stop getting plastic surgery... Who they are in their mind just becomes unattainable. And this happens quite a bit with transgender people.

Stop talking for transgender people, you do not represent their feelings, opinions or views in the slightest.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

And this happens quite a bit with transgender people.

making shit up. you are such a liar.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

trans people are one of the most vulnerable, oppressed, and victimized segments of society. the suicide rate among trans people is unreal (although lower, at least among kids, who take hormones or go through transitional surgery). they are one of (if not the) most targeted groups when it comes to violent hate crimes and murder.

fuzzy you are just a bad person. truly.

I wouldn't target anyone, and unless I was asked from a trans person, I wouldn't even voice my opinion. If someone want's to go and do all they can to live as authentically as a woman they can do it... Do I think chopping off a penis is a sensible idea? No I do not, but if someones that set on it, go the hell and do it for all I care.

I'm empathetic and feel for these people who are stricken with such thoughts. I'm not hateful against them. That is why I'm not a bigot.

You guys are blurring all of your lines and treating me unfairly about this.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Consider this analogy.

When I was growing up I always thought that I had a big dick. I was always confident and lived my life as a man with a big dick. But as I got older some girls would actually point out that it really isn't that big at all and you know you'd end up seeing drunk friends whipping their dicks out at partys and shit like that and in comparison I'd realize that I was a little lacking.

I really want a big dick and in my mind for years and years I truly associated myself as a big-dicked person.. So what now, should girls all just lie to me and say it's super big as to please what I feel in my mind? Because I feel so passionately that i have a big dick is it wrong if someone says "Sure fuzz, you can think that, but it's really not very big"

I could take extenze or other enlargment pills on the market and walk around with a semi-boner all day long but would it mean that it's a truly bigger dick?

Sure, girls always say that they don't care about size to be respectful. But if they don't actually believe it in their hearts is it an authentic thing to say?

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

So in other words, I'm stuck with the hand that biology dealt me. I can order all the penis pumps or take all the pills and try and present myself otherwise, but for me I'd rather just work with what I got... But if someone in my position went out and underwent all those measures to matchup with what they feel in their head, I would certainly respect that.

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

So me having a big dick or not simply isn't a choice... I can do all I can to believe that I do have one, and because it's something I'm so passionate about people wouldn't have the hearts to say otherwise. The theory would be " well if he thinks he has a big dick, we should collectively all act like he does" And that would make me feel super awesome and super confident but would it be hatespeech if someone pointed out that I was in a sense being humored?

Humored might be the wrong word as the intentions were pure and people would rationalize "well if having a big dicks so important to him, who are we to tell him that it's small" but there would be a little air of disingenuity taking place in the cultural effort to please me.

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Yeah, I'm definitely a grower, that's for sure. Like some times on MDMA it takes awhile to get an erection and my dick would just be looking all small and I'd worry that people would get he wrong idea. Or one time this guy pantsed me at a party as I was talking to some young lady and my dick was just looking small as ever. And I was like oh come on man at least make sure I'm aroused first or something! For me it's just an insecurity to have girls seeing my goods before I'm aroused or anything. Afterwards though I don't care

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

"true selves" are just something that people are chasing in their mind. It's almost an obsession.

I feel like my true self is a man with a big dick, but it's simply not true. Shouldn't I be able to be my true self? I wish... But hey I live with it and work on finding peace within myself.

.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I wouldn't target anyone, and unless I was asked from a trans person, I wouldn't even voice my opinion. If someone want's to go and do all they can to live as authentically as a woman they can do it... Do I think chopping off a penis is a sensible idea? No I do not, but if someones that set on it, go the hell and do it for all I care.

I'm empathetic and feel for these people who are stricken with such thoughts. I'm not hateful against them. That is why I'm not a bigot.

You guys are blurring all of your lines and treating me unfairly about this.

tReAtInG mE UnFaIrLy aBoUt tHiS

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

It's a similar correlation.

Some people have all the confidence in the world and believe that they're quite good looking in their own minds when other people overwhelmingly find them to be unattractive. It's just a disconnect in the mind. It's why some people can never stop getting plastic surgery... Who they are in their mind just becomes unattainable. And this happens quite a bit with transgender people.

look try to imagine this

you were actually born a girl, not a boy. but you feel the same way about yourself as you do now. you know you're male, despite your genitals. would you really be happy right now if you were forced to live as your biological sex, a female?

[redbreegull]

even when they don't have money and are basically bottom feeding wretches, white straight cis males are just like programmed to be incredibly privileged, offensive, hurtful, ignorant, egoistic, and close-minded people, huh

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

making shit up. you are such a liar.

There's countless cases documented on the internet about this. One of which was a female who transitioned into a man and he was featured on this documentary that aired on the CBC network here in Canada. He stressed that doctors shouldn't be giving the option to kids and that if he could go back now he never would have done it. It was very sad. It seems as a man now he's more confused than ever and now can't turn back.

I watched this some time ago, and before all the discussions on Netphoria, but I'll try to track down the title for you guys. I'd like for you guys to watch it and then tell me what you make of it.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I'd like for you guys to watch it and then tell me what you make of it.

I'd like for you to go fuck yourself

[LaBelle]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

There's countless cases documented on the internet about this. One of which was a female who transitioned into a man and he was featured on this documentary that aired on the CBC network here in Canada. He stressed that doctors shouldn't be giving the option to kids and that if he could go back now he never would have done it. It was very sad. It seems as a man now he's more confused than ever and now can't turn back.

I watched this some time ago, and before all the discussions on Netphoria, but I'll try to track down the title for you guys. I'd like for you guys to watch it and then tell me what you make of it.

Perhaps that the experience of some is not representative of the whole?

There's also countless cases of people who went through gender reassignment and can finally accept themselves.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

look try to imagine this

you were actually born a girl, not a boy. but you feel the same way about yourself as you do now. you know you're male, despite your genitals. would you really be happy right now if you were forced to live as your biological sex, a female?

I honestly don't feel in my mind as a man or a woman. I'm just me. Some of my traits are manly and some of my traits are feminine. I guess what makes me a man and gives me the many traits is the testosterone inside of me. But I certainly don't try to go out of my way to act manly or anything. I'm actually quite childish in a lot of ways.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by MarquisInSpades

I am not a fan of Indian weddings and how they're carried out, lol.

Nonetheless, how did you like it? Delhi AND the wedding?

i liked it just fine.

delhi was very foggy and cold. we were there for a week between christmas and new year.
traffic was mental. but we got a fair bit of tourism in, in between the wedding parties. including a daytrip to agra.

wedding was interesting too. they even made me participate in a dance. only very shortly - less than a minute, i believe - but it took (lol!) me hours to learn the moves.
the big party at the end was less festive than i had expected. lots of food, loud band, but cold outside, not a lot of alcohol (bar closed during ceremony, and didn't stay open very late).

afterwards we did some tourism around. varanasi, khajuraho, some tiger reserve, jaipur. all very nice, but our schedule was a bit too busy. a lot of travelling around; not enough sleep. and i didn't really need two night trains to "get" the experience. one would have been enough.

anyway, it was a nice trip. i was scared in advance because everyone told me it'd be horrible and a shock, but it wasn't.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

Perhaps that the experience of some is not representative of the whole?

There's also countless cases of people who went through gender reassignment and can finally accept themselves.

Yeah, that's nice... I'm not suggesting that there isn't. It's simply just not a black and white solution though. That can't be argued. So some concern and skepticism I think is healthy to be had in the public lexicon.

It scares me the most when children are involved. Adults have the right to make any extreme decision they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else as far as I'm concerned.

Take joining the army. I personally think that would be a bad idea, but if some adults wants to go and serve all the power to them.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

Perhaps that the experience of some is not representative of the whole?

There's also countless cases of people who went through gender reassignment and can finally accept themselves.

if the story he is talking about is even real, it's the exception, not the rule. there is good research showing trans people who go through reassignment surgery are less likely to commit suicide. it's because they are no longer living in the wrong body obviously, but this is beyond fuzzy's feeble intellect to grasp

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I honestly don't feel in my mind as a man or a woman. I'm just me. Some of my traits are manly and some of my traits are feminine. I guess what makes me a man and gives me the many traits is the testosterone inside of me. But I certainly don't try to go out of my way to act manly or anything.

I feel the same way but many if not most people identify highly with their gender.

I'm actually quite childish in a lot of ways.

you're just walking right into this one huh

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I'm actually quite childish in a lot of ways.

you must be joking!

[fuzzyroes]

Heres a recent piece that I found informing that really kind of validates my concerns. I'd like for you guys to read it and then tell me how you feel...

https://nypost.com/2015/06/14/push-f...ould-backfire/

Kids transitioning at 4 years old... I mean come on........ You guys honestly don't think that this is at least a cause for concern?

[fuzzyroes]

And that's the liberal New York Post reporting... So I shouldn't be crucified for my concerns guys.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

tell us more about your penis.

[fuzzyroes]

A lot of scientists and doctors and other experts are speaking out to say that transgender ideology abuses children.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...s-say-doctors/

[fuzzyroes]

So I mean, this is all coming from experts... People who know a lot more and are much more educated than you guys....