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Old 04-12-2017, 05:30 PM   #91
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Old 04-12-2017, 09:23 PM   #92
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But, I'd say that if they truly believe in something and doesn't know it to be wrong, it can't be a lie can it?
A lie implies the person knows it to be false.

Self deception is tricky, but to me if they are aware of their self deception then it becomes a lie. If they aren't they are still being sincere even if they are wrong?

Idk, just thinking out loud.
self deception is hard because it's a strange concept where the 'self' can simultaneous be a liar and the one being lied to. but there is some evidence from FMRI to suggest that people's brains do have similar patterns during willful lying as they do during self-deception. obviously if you have no idea what you're doing/saying/proclaiming is wrong you can't lie about it to yourself, however there does seem to often be a knowledge of truth somewhere, as evidence by these FMRI studies.

self-deception is the best way to deceive others, because you can't give yourself away. it may have even evolved for this purpose. my guess would be it evolved for this reason and to deal with cognitive dissonance.

if you want i'll get you some citations about this, it's actually part of what i'm doing my honors thesis on

 
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