2016 Presidential General Election Thread

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

I do think the machines might be rigged, or the vote counters dishonest. It's easy to do. But I do feel (hope) Hillary is still more popular. I think. I really hate some of her policies too, though. Just less of them.

ilp, all these media stories and polls are what's termed as GASLIGHTING. It's all meant to steer and influence the mass mind into defeat (in the case of this election).







Where ever Trump goes he gets overflow crowds in the tens of thousands. Hillary can barely fill up high school gyms and libraries. Bernie supporters smelled the fix was in for the same reasons and they were PROVEN right.

It's funny how incredulous some on the left have been about Trump calling out rigged votes when the DNC was caught red-handed doing it and when that hand was in the 'vote-rigging' cookie jar and everybody saw it, they didn't even bother lifting their hand out of it and started blaming Putin.

And the religious left zealots took that bait hook, line and sinker.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

Sept 1 to Oct. 13. from left to right.

I know that's what the website is telling you it says but look at the explanations on the graph. the X axis is Difference of democrats and republicans in the sample and the Y axis is the percentage of likely voters for each candidate. So it's measuring the percentage of a sample who votes for each candidate (y) based on the difference of democrats and republicans in the sample (x). Time is not on the graph at all.

Seriously dude you should know how to read a graph

[reprise85]

i guess the dots are supposedly different skews of polls on the X dimension and the lines are regression lines but that graph was hard for me to unpack because i was searching for some dimension of time and there isn't one

[reprise85]

there is also no source for where the polling data was from

[redbreegull]

any of you know what the religious left is

[ilikeplanets]

A myth?

[ilikeplanets]

And a contradiction kind of because how can you be socially liberal and vote based on your religion

[ilikeplanets]

I mean economically I guess it could work but are left leaning Christians really Christians if they vote for pro choice and marriage rights, or is that incorrect? I've never been a Christian so I'm not 100% sure how the church feels about that in regards to US politics.

[redbreegull]

I've always said Marx is the greatest non-Christian Christian philosopher

[ilikeplanets]

It's not religious left at all though, just Left! It's a damn myth, I say

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

any of you know what the religious left is

It's the likes of you and Scotty who display blind allegiance. You want to keep marginilizing yourself where this assessement is valid, go ahead; just know many on the left are seeing through the hypocrisy and that she's a Bush-Neo-Con as I've been stating for years now. Better late than never.



WikiLeaks poisons Hillary’s relationship with left




Some of the left’s most influential voices and groups are taking offense at the way they and their causes were discussed behind their backs by Clinton and some of her closest advisers in the emails, which swipe liberal heroes and causes as “puritanical,” “pompous”, “naive”, “radical” and “dumb,” calling some “freaks,” who need to “get a life.”

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

Why do you keep referencing polls that have proven to be biased by oversampling democrats at every turn?

Polls are biased. Voting is rigged.

AMERICA REALLY WANTS A TRUMP PRESIDENCY, SHEEPLE! OPEN YOUR EYES AND YOUR MINDS.

[reprise85]

omega you want to comment on that graph you posted that had nothing to do with what you said it did? did you even read it besides what the heading said on that hateful website?

[Tchocky]

Or gay.

Or female.

Or pretty much everyone who isn't an under-informed white male totin' a gun and wearin' a tinfoil hat.

[reprise85]

this stupid dude who works in my store was all 'we better hope he wins or who knows what she'll do' and i wanted to smack him for real. he's like the stereotype people have about white stupid dudes that stock shelves their whole lives. and he was saying this to a black dude who kept going 'i don't know man, i don't know...' and he just kept saying shit. how fuckin dense do you have to be to think the young black male and (no descriptors needed) female agree with you on this, especially when they are not replying favorable to what you're saying?

[ilikeplanets]

Del

[myosis]

religious left: one very famous syndicalist/socialist in my country was deeply christian. started his adult life as a monk, but didn't fit in.
he then devoted most of his life to mobilizing the working class, saying it was his christian duty to help his fellow humans.

[myosis]

his faith and devotion were actually a plus for his socialist cause, as he didn't fear persecution and he didn't mind being imprisoned for political reasons. he kept fighting back, unabashed.

[ilikeplanets]

To be fair I did specify "in regards to US politics"

Im just jealous we can't have it here -_-

[Elphenor]

I don't think wikileaks counts as "proven"

I don't think there was ever enough evidence to say she cheated rather that the establishment in charge of party rules obviously favored her

[buzzard]

More to the point, I just don't think that a heads-up on one debate question makes Trump any less pitifully inept a candidate or generally repellent a human being.

I think that might be a sticking point for many people in an election proffering a lesser of two evils choice.

[ilikeplanets]

I've said my opinion on who I think is worse but that doesn't mean cheating gets a pass. Every time I want to stick up for her, something else comes up. How the fuck are these the candidates, again? Seriously, why is this happening?

[buzzard]

Tally up the points however you like, but don't let that stop you from voting for whichever candidate will most benefit your actual life.

[ilikeplanets]

Well, yeah...that's all I can really do. :X

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Poots

that's some brainwashed shit right there

adherence to facts = brainwashed

[Elphenor]

This invoking wikileaks as a blank check for whatever conspiracy nonsense you're about to spew is getting out of hand

[Elphenor]

point is that wikileaks isn't a legit source it's a collection of documents with unverifiable sources and accuracy

you'd be better off posting directly the emails that you say support the rather bold accusations that you've come up with so they can each be judged on individual merit

[Elphenor]

not that this has anything to do with the actual issues of either candidates policies which is the only thing that has the potential to ever matter

For example Trump personally being a racist who's gotten into legal trouble for it would matter magnitudes less if it weren't for his suggested policy of building a massive unnecessary wall

[The Omega Concern]

Hey...LIBERAL FASCIST IDIOTS. This should put to rest the rigged polling talk, eh?


You know, I've only been validated on about a thousand different issues this election season, so what's one more?


New Podesta Email Exposes Dem Playbook For Rigging Polls Through "Oversamples"





I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling.






Meanwhile, it's suggested that national polls over sample "key districts / regions" and "ethnic" groups "as needed."

- General election benchmark, 800 sample, with potential over samples in key districts/regions
- Benchmark polling in targeted races, with ethnic over samples as needed
- Targeting tracking polls in key races, with ethnic over samples as needed

[The Omega Concern]

New Podesta Email Exposes Dem Playbook For Rigging Polls Through "Oversamples"