millennial apathy

[Disco King]

The takeaway from this is that women just lack a sense of responsibility.

[duovamp]

http://youtu.be/WDA57sttHEo

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Starla

And that is why we have a high rate of transgender people committing suicide. Why force them to wait until they're 18 to be who they are? Isn't it better to be supportive, and be there for them while they are young and need you? I have seen children extremely fearful of their parents judgement over being LGBTQ. They suffer years of depression, isolation and so much more. With loving and supportive parents... these children have a higher percentage of growing up to be happy and functional in their lives well into adulthood.

I realize the context of this conversation but I just want to point out to the peanut gallery that everything you say has nothing to do with LGBTQ. The parents could be pressuring the child to be a ballerina or a baseball player and everything you say still applies.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Poots

So because they had to wait until they were 18 they commit suicide? Even after they're 18? That sounds totally ridiculous.

I would imagine it is very painful going through the puberty of your assigned gender when you identify as the other gender. Like imagine being a physical boy but very dysphoric about it and then all of a sudden you're getting boners and your voice is getting deep and you are becoming more and more like what you don't want to be/identify as. Surely, for some, this is more traumatic than slowing down puberty or transitioning before/during puberty.

[TheAeroplane]

Originally Posted by slunken

I just want to point out to the peanut gallery that everything you say has nothing to do with LGBTQ.

It's LGBTTQQIIAA, you insensitive hateful bully !

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

I would imagine it is very painful going through the puberty of your assigned gender when you identify as the other gender. Like imagine being a physical boy but very dysphoric about it and then all of a sudden you're getting boners and your voice is getting deep and you are becoming more and more like what you don't want to be/identify as. Surely, for some, this is more traumatic than slowing down puberty or transitioning before/during puberty.

life sucks, but I think theres something to be said about just accepting who you are. There's people who don't like certain aspects of their face so they go and get plastic surgery here and there and it never ends up being enough cause they just can't achieve what ever they're obsessing about in their mind. Same goes for people who just can't be skinny enough or strong enough... It's all different obsessions based on a similar kind of thought process.

What's a man? What's a Woman? The obsession over gender is ridiculous and is mostly perpetrated by the media. Theres countless Women out there who appear more manly than me and are way stronger than me and could kick my ass. Who gives a shit?

I mean my life would be way better if I was a good looking guy with a better natural physique and a huge penis, but I am who I am... May as well just accept it.

[fuzzyroes]

I was watching that Caitlyn Jenner interview and she mentioned that she knew she was a female cause at a young age she kept on having the urge to wear dresses and would sneak into her mothers room and wear her dresses and mark exactly in the closest where they were taken from. But that's such a moronic way to look at womanhood... she had urges to relate to a certain fashion sensibility. "MEN WEAR SUITS WOMEN WEAR DRESSES... I WANNA WEAR A DRESS"

I mean do whatever you wanna do to be happy, but why does this have to be such a big issue? Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and and should be addressed how they would like to be... But if someone says that they don't think that the a transgender woman is a biological woman they'll get screamed at as if they're spouting racist hatred or something.

[reprise85]

The reason it's such a big issue is because some people don't treat people who identify as transgender with respect or address them as they would like to be addressed.

As for just accepting who you are... that only works to a certain point. Would you accept if you grew another head? How about if your dick became non-functional for no apparent reason? People decide how much they are willing to accept things and how much they want to change things and it's impossible to judge them for that, because you don't know how bad it feels for them. People don't transition lightly. It's a big fucking deal. I don't know how people don't see that. You have no idea what they feel every day.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

How about if your dick became non-functional

Yeah, it's called whiskey dick or taking too much ecstasy... Embarrassing as hell but you are who you are.

I'm all for doing what you wanna do... But I don't know if obsessing about something is really healthy either though... And people that transition surely have obsessed about it for years and years.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

The reason it's such a big issue is because some people don't treat people who identify as transgender with respect or address them as they would like to be addressed.

As for just accepting who you are... that only works to a certain point. Would you accept if you grew another head? How about if your dick became non-functional for no apparent reason? People decide how much they are willing to accept things and how much they want to change things and it's impossible to judge them for that, because you don't know how bad it feels for them. People don't transition lightly. It's a big fucking deal. I don't know how people don't see that. You have no idea what they feel every day.

depression is also a mental illness... feeling bad all the time... it's just not natural... even people that have the most traumatic shit happen to them eventually bounce back cause they realize ruining their life by obsessing over it only grants power to the tragedies they've suffered.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Yeah, it's called whiskey dick or taking too much ecstasy... Embarrassing as hell but you are who you are.

I'm all for doing what you wanna do... But I don't know if obsessing about something is really healthy either though... And people that transition surely have obsessed about it for years and years.

Yeah, I meant permanently. And if transitioning gets them to stop obsessing, is that a good thing?

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

depression is also a mental illness... feeling bad all the time... it's just not natural... even people that have the most traumatic shit happen to them eventually bounce back cause they realize ruining their life by obsessing over it only grants power to the tragedies they've suffered.

Depression is absolutely natural. Natural doesn't mean good. But it's a genetic predisposition to depression and/or grief and/or life events that cause depression. Because of evolution, people also get depressed when they cannot mate/don't have a romantic partner/break up with their partner. I'm sure I'm leaving out some things but you get the point. Depression is absolutely natural. Natural doesn't mean good and 'unnatural' doesn't mean bad.

And some of those who suffer traumas don't get PTSD at all. For example, Elizabeth Smart who was kidnapped and raped every day for an extended period of time never had therapy and apparently is not depressed and functions very well (according to her, and seems true because she is very high functioning and re-entered society within weeks). Some people with depression kill themselves. Some people are able to move past it without medication. Some need it. Everyone is different.

My point is that you have no idea how someone feels and how big of a deal something is to them. It shows a lack of ability to take someone else's perspective to overlook this.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

Yeah, I meant permanently. And if transitioning gets them to stop obsessing, is that a good thing?

The thing about obsession is that if you get over 1 thing there will always be something else around the corner to agonize your mind.

I had OCD as a child/teen/young adult and only after therapy and lots of hardwork have I overcome it. You really have to retrain how your brain works. What I did that helped was if I was obsessing about something all day I would realize: "this is ruining my experience" So I would set aside a certain time of day to consider what I was obsessing about and leave it at that and it worked wonders and often times when I got to the time it barely even bothered me... You do that every day for a few years with therapy and the difference is astronomical. I also smoked weed all of the time and didn't realize that that was a MAJOR cause for my anxiety... ahhh to be young and stupid eh?

It's a very slippery slope to grant your obsessions power and cater to them... the nightmare will never end if you take that approach

[fuzzyroes]

if anyone has OCD and they're bothered just think: "this is doing me no good right now"... "I realize I feel this is worth thinking about so I'll set a 30 minute segment 5 hours from now to think about it and let it be free from my mind until then"

That kind of state of mind just kicks obsession in the ass... and the more you practice it... the easier it becomes. Therapy was really a godsend to me

[fuzzyroes]

and a lot of OCD is just irrational stupid paranoia.... how I didn't see the correlation with my weed smoking is saddening... But I think eating disorders and gender dysphoria really aren't that different sides of the "beast".

The mind is powerful and if it's malfunctioning you gotta nip that in the bud

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Yeah, it's called whiskey dick or taking too much ecstasy... Embarrassing as hell but you are who you are.

lol

hey everyone listen to fuzzy and his opinion on this matter he knows what he's talking about it's all in your head and you just need to accept who you are without obsessing it's really that simple he had ocd as a kid and his penis is too small but he is who he is

[Cool As Ice Cream]

do you know someone who is down? need to give some support? here are some inspirational quotes!

"life sucks."
- fuzzyroes

"my life would be better if i had a huge penis."
- fuzzyroes

[fuzzyroes]

I'm pretty confident in stating that a large factor of transgenderism is a result of obsession

[fuzzyroes]

it's an obsession with gender norms and you give it all that power and energy and you become a slave to it.

[fuzzyroes]

and before you know it you're going through some really extreme and questionable procedures

[Cool As Ice Cream]

yeah, sure, try to explain it even more. that doesn't make it any less retarded, fuzztard. it's not like we didn't get your point twenty posts ago.

[fuzzyroes]

Look man, I love you CAIC... I'm not trying to be a dick here... but theres something to be said for tough love and just accepting your perceived flaws and doing what you can to better yourself without obsessing over it.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

doing what you can to better yourself

funny you should say that.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Poots

So because they had to wait until they were 18 they commit suicide? Even after they're 18? That sounds totally ridiculous.

No, because they feel repressed and can't be who they are.

[Starla]

[myosis]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

and before you know it you're going through some really extreme and questionable procedures

yeah before you know it

[Disco King]

The habit of pretending to know more about a subject than one does is probably universal, but people like fuzzyroes seem to be at the high end of the bell curve in terms of propensity to do it.

[redbreegull]

There are certain people who are more likely to feel compelled to form extreme opinions the less they actually know about a subject

[myosis]

and before you know it you're spewing them on the internet

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by reprise85

I would imagine it is very painful going through the puberty of your assigned gender when you identify as the other gender. Like imagine being a physical boy but very dysphoric about it and then all of a sudden you're getting boners and your voice is getting deep and you are becoming more and more like what you don't want to be/identify as. Surely, for some, this is more traumatic than slowing down puberty or transitioning before/during puberty.

At 15, you don't know who you are. Period.