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[jparker800]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

from a band I'm absolutely done with

why "done with"? aside from the millions of reasons discussed on this board for more than a decade now, why is this the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?

[absof]

if there are no mods, can i get in the leet section? always been curious.

[Gooch]

l33t!

[pavementtune]

Originally Posted by robinsoncrusoe

You are welcome

so are you, enjoy the ride.

Originally Posted by Gooch

I'm just frustrated at the whole stupid situation, which makes me feel even MORE like a loser for even giving a shit anymore, after being a fan since 1991. Why am I still here? I dont know. This whole fiasco makes me question my own sanity.
Maybe Im insane. YEs, thats it. I'm insane. Insane in the membrane.
half this board prolly doesnt even know what that reference is.

Thanks Billy for pointing out what a loser I am.

well yea (I'm old enough to get the reference) - what's even more sad is when you put a ton of time into archiving band shit and recordings, trying to simply ignore what spcamp actually does or says, and think "yea okay, ignore, no care, I love the music, blabla, separate artist and their work."

and then finally, only about 20 years too late realize - you really picked the wrong band.

[redbreegull]

why is billy corgan such a god damn fuck

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Gooch

WTF is wrong here?!?!?! Where is freedom of speech? We are seriously so paranoid that we cant even TALK about these FUCKIN leaks anymore?????

you mean "where is the right to publish copy written material without permission?"

[MyOneAndOnly]

god damn billy crogen and his giant archive hoard of songs!

[MyOneAndOnly]

the last time i believed any of his shit about rereleasing everything was in 2010 or 11 when Kerry Brown told me he had a dozen people working on cataloging and prepping "the archive"

6 months later Kerry Brown was fired from being billy cordigan's friend

[MyOneAndOnly]

i still have the SPRC usb with the "unlocked" special tracks and any time now billy corgigan is gonna release more demos and you have to be an SPRC member to get them.

[Gooch]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

you mean "where is the right to publish copy written material without permission?"

No I am saying its annoying that the THREAD got deleted, that we cant TALK about it. But now it makes sense.

BTW, NIN has an awesome live music archive, and they seem to be cool with making themselves (Reznor) accessible. Even a few employee released earpiece /PA recordings are easily found out there. Pearl jam too with their live recording releases.

Anyway, Just seems like SP camp doesn't support the fan movement. OK, so the Oboard was negative. But at least people were talking about SP. Shut it down, they move on. I think as a whole, SP fans, esp the die hards that have been around and that have STAYED around, are cynical, sarcastic, curmudgeous people who are educated, audiophilic and romantic at heart. Completists, obsessives, and generally NICE people, despite their sarcastic schadenfreudistic attitudes toward each other. Thats my take on SP fans, the people here, online at other sites, and at the MANY shows I've been to over the years. Even random people, Ive met, if it comes up they are into SP, they can be classified into pretty much the same category. I thought BC understood this, but he has distanced himself from his fan base, and lost touch with reality of who we, SP fans, are.

Fuckit.

[MyOneAndOnly]

what is "SP Camp?"

[MyOneAndOnly]

This thread is poots

[MyOneAndOnly]

have you seen D'arcy lately. she ain't rollin' in any dough

[Gooch]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

what is "SP Camp?"

Its a fat farm outside of Joliet Illinois where overweight teens with tourettes go to. Original 4 SP started it back in late 1994, D'Arcy runs it currently. Her and Lenny Dykstra.

[Gooch]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

what is "SP Camp?"

SP CAMP? They made a documentary about it. Its on IMDB: "A group of juvenile criminals is sent for vacation to Kamp Kikakee. SP frontman Billy Corgan has to care for them, although he doesn't even know how to take care of himself. The other children at the camp show enmity against them, but the group knows very well how to defend themselves. They do also help the Indian owner of the camp when a brutal mining corporation wants to tear down the camp to mine a rare mineral."

I think it was posted on Youtube, but that was taken down too.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Gooch

Its a fat farm outside of Joliet Illinois where overweight teens with tourettes go to. Original 4 SP started it back in the late 1994, D'Arcy runs it currently. Her and Lenny Dykstra.

sp camp is prolly lost in the bottom of that giant hole that I-80 goes over

[Gooch]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

sp camp is prolly lost in the bottom of that giant hole that I-80 goes over

You mean your mom's VAGINA!!!????!!!

YEAH BOY!!!

[fuzzyroes]

If we're allowed to discuss the songs, can someone post a complete list of the leaks that just dropped so those of us who missed them can go about our own means of finding em?

[jparker800]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

can someone post a complete list of the leaks that just dropped so those of us who missed them can go about our own means of finding em?

Not sure, but these days that sounds awfully "delete thread/cash rewards" worthy to me

[redbreegull]

It was me Billy, I stole your shit and leaked it. Please sue me so I can face you in court and shout WHERE'S JAMES IHA

[Gooch]

ok, so people actually got legal letters? were any pictures of these letters posted online?

Save them, they are valuable.

In 10 years, these letters will be featured on "memorabilia mondays".

Mark me words.

[Run To Me]

Originally Posted by Gooch

No I am saying its annoying that the THREAD got deleted, that we cant TALK about it. But now it makes sense.

BTW, NIN has an awesome live music archive, and they seem to be cool with making themselves (Reznor) accessible. Even a few employee released earpiece /PA recordings are easily found out there. Pearl jam too with their live recording releases.

Anyway, Just seems like SP camp doesn't support the fan movement. OK, so the Oboard was negative. But at least people were talking about SP. Shut it down, they move on. I think as a whole, SP fans, esp the die hards that have been around and that have STAYED around, are cynical, sarcastic, curmudgeous people who are educated, audiophilic and romantic at heart. Completists, obsessives, and generally NICE people, despite their sarcastic schadenfreudistic attitudes toward each other. Thats my take on SP fans, the people here, online at other sites, and at the MANY shows I've been to over the years. Even random people, Ive met, if it comes up they are into SP, they can be classified into pretty much the same category. I thought BC understood this, but he has distanced himself from his fan base, and lost touch with reality of who we, SP fans, are.

Fuckit.

He doesn't want us. Even though we're the only ones who buy his shit anymore. He wants all the younger fans. He's forever lost inside the dreams of teen machines. He said it himself.

I wonder how old and sad and broken and friendless and fat and lost and defeated he will have to get before he decides to just grow the fuck up already

[sniffingchimp]

Cannot believe I'm logging in after all these years, but what board is everyone using that isn't being censored by Bill and his team of henchmen? This is lunacy. Wouldn't mind a list of leaks so far as Christ, can't find anywhere?

Redbree? Help out an old bro?

[Ram27]

We should maybe look in to starting an invite-only board so that we can talk about stuff free of persecution by the band

Or maybe that's pointless because we've probably gotten all the SPRC demos by now and there's gonna be nothing else

[sniffingchimp]

http://us21.chatzy.com/59680169452097

[Gooch]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

He doesn't want us. Even though we're the only ones who buy his shit anymore. He wants all the younger fans. He's forever lost inside the dreams of teen machines. He said it himself.

Yeah, he made MTAE specifically to attract YOUNGER fans. Teens and preteens. It failed. He gave his long time fans a big middle finger fuck you.

Like when untitled was released. "oh this is just to show that yeah, i can still rock if i wanted to". Fuck that. all that "it sounds too much like SP, lets re-work it" shit. I understand his want to remain relative and current, and to be accepted for who he is now. But that vibrato-heavy skipping-consonent crooning aint working.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by sniffingchimp

Cannot believe I'm logging in after all these years, but what board is everyone using that isn't being censored by Bill and his team of henchmen? This is lunacy. Wouldn't mind a list of leaks so far as Christ, can't find anywhere?

Redbree? Help out an old bro?

sorry bud I have no fucking idea what the deal with these leaks is. I heard a few of them on youtube over the last few weeks but I had no idea they leaked years ago. I also would love a list of anything that has leaked that isn't common knowledge but it's not pavementtune or anyone else's fault that can't happen here except billy fucking corgan.

the guy has no intention of ever releasing this shit, just shells out empty promises about projects that will never happen while being a vindictive fuck to the small group of fans who would still even want to get this stuff after what a colossal piece of trash he has been to us over the years. if you are reading this, reward rats from SP camp, tell you master fuck you to death.

[Ram27]

Originally Posted by Gooch

all that "it sounds too much like SP, lets re-work it" shit.

Of all of Billy's annoying rhetoric, that one irritates the most

That's why The Imploding Voice is on Machina instead of Strength in Numbers, or why the final version of Raindrops sounds like piss

[sniffingchimp]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

sorry bud I have no fucking idea what the deal with these leaks is. I heard a few of them on youtube over the last few weeks but I had no idea they leaked years ago. I also would love a list of anything that has leaked that isn't common knowledge but it's not pavementtune or anyone else's fault that can't happen here except billy fucking corgan.

the guy has no intention of ever releasing this shit, just shells out empty promises about projects that will never happen while being a vindictive fuck to the small group of fans who would still even want to get this stuff after what a colossal piece of trash he has been to us over the years. if you are reading this, reward rats from SP camp, tell you master fuck you to death.

Cheers dude, figured you'd be all over it but this sadly seems like a success for Corgan. No doubt shit will slide out over next week or two but this immediate silencing has proved to be disturbingly effective.

Anyhow, let's just wait and see. Agreed on the fuck you to death part, what a fucking joke.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Ram27

Of all of Billy's annoying rhetoric, that one irritates the most

That's why The Imploding Voice is on Machina instead of Strength in Numbers, or why the final version of Raindrops sounds like piss

he has this weird thing going where he imitates older SP in all the worst ways while rejecting the things that made the band special. so many new SP songs are outwardly very SP, but have none of the magic or creativity