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[buzzard]

The shame of being an e-reader guy is more than adequately compensated for by the ability to pirate books.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Hey Fuzz

Why don't you like Canada

The stereotype here in the middle western USA is that Canada is an idyllic pastoral wonderland where people work less hard, leave their front doors unlocked, and smoke grass freely and openly

So why so eager to leave? Is it because books are more expensive there?

hah! that's a crock... Everyone always thinks that the grass is greener on the other side. But crack and meth have been sweeping the nation... And where I live they built a salvation army homeless shelter and it's turned the nice suburbs to shit... Junkies everywhere, break and enters going through the roof... What's worse is in Canada if someone breaks into your house and robs you and say you smoke the guy in the head with a baseball bat or something YOU'RE the guy that does prison time. And if the guy robbing you gets caught- In Canada you're out of jail in a day, theres a revolving door prison system. The systems absolutely broken and a joke... It's why I respect kind of the more right-wing leanings in the USA.

One plus is obviously the medical system. Canada has that down pat... But the minimum wage is lower here than in most states and the cost of living in British Columbia is astronomical right now. It might be good if you live in some shit-hole boonie province... But anywhere around Toronto and Vancouver is nearly about on par with LA and New York.... Maybe a bit less.

You can smoke weed wherever you want and for that manner shoot up on the streets and smoke crack wherever you want and do whatever and the cops don't give a shit. So that's a good thing, but for a guy who doesn't smoke much weed anymore it doesn't excite me much.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

scotty is married and i am extremely unattractive

so he just wined and dined you at a super swanky restaurant for the heck of it?

[reprise85]

friendship is a thing that exists

[fuzzyroes]

haha yer friends with scotty

[reprise85]

lol so funny

[FoolofaTook]

fuzzy can't comprehend wining and dining a babe without wanting to stick it in her woo-hoo, can you, fuzzy brah?

nice one dude!

[MyOneAndOnly]

every time i see a fuzz post i imagine it's coming from Dewey Crowe from Justified

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

fuzzy can't comprehend wining and dining a babe without wanting to stick it in her woo-hoo, can you, fuzzy brah?

nice one dude!

It actually brings a tear of joy to my eye

[hnibos]

When you think he can't possibly get any worse, he somehow manages to do so. Bravo

[Cool As Ice Cream]

he doesn't even have to make an effort.
he's simply a terrible person, with a marble for a brain. a bit like monty, but lacking the legendariness. completely worthless, quoi?

[redbreegull]

He's not a terrible person. He's a genuinely nice dude but he is really confused and susceptible to ideas that are very harmful to people

I dunno where he lives exactly but his views on race and religion are the sort of thing that in my experience only really comes from having no meaningful exposure to people outside your own culture

[redbreegull]

kind of related to what fuzzy said: this is an honest question and I am curious about others' experiences. I do totally believe 100% that men and women (or anyone who could by their orientation be attracted to one another) can be just platonic friends.

however, given enough time spent together (I'm talking years of friendship sometimes), my experience is that eventually at some point there will be some sort of romantic/sexual encounter between the two parties. Is this like an inevitability for everyone or am I just friends with a bunch of hippies?

[hnibos]

I'd say Hippies

[The exploding boy]

Well the problem is, you do want your romantic partner to also be your best friend. So if you're very good friend with someone with a compatible sexual orientation and neither of you are with attachments, it can become hard to understand why you SHOULDN'T be partners too, be it sexual or romantic (well there can be very obvious reasons sometimes i suppose, like we've all had friends we wouldn't even want as roommate) Definitely when neither have attachments, the odds are pretty high something may happen. Whether its a right or wrong thing, it all depends on the two parties feelings and expectations.

Of course there is also the physical attraction factor that may come into it, but it's also a fact (well for me anyway) that if you really love a person's personality and intellect, you know, WHO THEY ARE INSIDE that physical attraction can become much less a deciding factor (though it remains a factor to a certain point).

I would argue sometimes too if there's been an obvious sexual tension, to have that bit relieved at some point and get it out of the way may help with the friendship down the road. OR ruin everything..i don't know. There's also the "well we're both really horny right now and here we both are and we trust one another" scenario. Maybe there wasn't any real sexual tension...until you both found yourselves really in need of getting laid.

Keep in mind i speak of all this with little personal experience in the matter, but i have observed a few cases in my time.

The thing is. let's say in a straight case, if you're friend with some guy the thought of "what if we had sex" will never cross your mind because you don't swing that way (and if it does well youre at least bi curious), but it's kind of a given that with a woman, if you get to know each other enough, the thought will at the very least cross your mind once for 5 seconds. That's a guaranteed minimum. But if the thought stays, or goes but comes back frequently, you should probably give up the idea that this person is "just a friend" to you. Nevermind if the thought that comes back is not just sex but "what if we were a couple". Then i believe you're probably at least slightly in love.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

tl;dr

[Run To Me]

In my experience it's rare you're gonna see straight, opposite sex Best Friends last for very long b4 they're doin it. Casual Friends is another realm. But if you're hanging out all the time, laughing, sharing emotional intimacies, sooner or later one party is gonna start with the mating dance.

Sad sometimes, cause I've lost several friendships this way, but tru

[reprise85]

I have a long term good friend. He's probably my best friend but we don't talk every day or anything. He doesn't live here most of the year (he used to) and we never had sex or were romantic in any way, though I did used to have a crush on him. I have another friend I knew since 2 years old, at one point I was thinking about making a move, but I didn't and it was better that way. He's since died.

I don't share emotional intimacies with anybody, though. I guess the few times I have have been with him, like after I had to talk to the FBI once and fell apart afterwards... but we don't have close intimacy in that way. I don't with anyone. Do people really feel intimate with best friends all the time? We mostly engage in intellectual conversations.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

kind of related to what fuzzy said: this is an honest question and I am curious about others' experiences. I do totally believe 100% that men and women (or anyone who could by their orientation be attracted to one another) can be just platonic friends.

however, given enough time spent together (I'm talking years of friendship sometimes), my experience is that eventually at some point there will be some sort of romantic/sexual encounter between the two parties. Is this like an inevitability for everyone or am I just friends with a bunch of hippies?

I have quite a few guys who I've been friends with for years, and had no sexual relationship with. I think we've probably thought about it from time to time, and certainly found each other attractive in some instances, but realised that it was better to be friends. Instinctively you know what's at stake in a friendship like that, and ruining it seems like a bad idea when there are plenty of other fish in the sea to begin a sexual relationship with.

Starting a sexual relationship with a really good friend either results in marriage and lifelong partnership, or losing a friendship, and it's usually the latter. I think most of us recognise that and leave things alone - a friend for life is worth more than what will most probably be an ex that you never talk to. I've lost one really good friend that way, and that was enough.

Conversely, I met up with one of my ex's for coffee, for years after we broke up (most recently last year), and that was OK because we slept with each other the night we met and went straight into a relationship. Weird how that works. I guess the loss of the romantic/sexual relationship wasn't as painful and messy, because it wasn't all enmeshed with a close friendship as well. It's more like "well, that didn't work. Let's be friends instead."

Whereas with my ex who was my best friend to begin with, whenever I see him around I'm like OH GOD THE PAIN MAKE IT STOP so yeah. Doesn't work.

[vixnix]

Guys flirt, I reckon. They give you the glad eye. I'm not a flirter, so it unsettles me. My idea of "taking things to the next level" involves 40 ounces of gin split two ways and hoping for something to happen at 2am on the way home.

[myosis]

i've had friends i considered like sisters (one big sister and one little sister), with no imaginable sexual tension, even though they were attractive. we even shared the same bed at times.

one of them i would be grossed out even thinking about the possibility of... turns out she's now married to another girl, but she had only been with guys before.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

Well the problem is, you do want your romantic partner to also be your best friend.

why?

no one person can give another person everything they need

[FoolofaTook]

except for Jesus, the Risen Lord

[MyOneAndOnly]

[vixnix]

There's a popular worship song here and the end of the chorus is:

"Hold me, touch me inside;
Let your love burn in me now"

And every time I play it, I wince.

[FoolofaTook]

you should look up Teresa of Avila:

I saw in his hand a long spear of gold, and at the iron's point there seemed to be a little fire. He appeared to me to be thrusting it at times into my heart, and to pierce my very entrails; when he drew it out, he seemed to draw them out also, and to leave me all on fire with a great love of God. The pain was so great, that it made me moan; and yet so surpassing was the sweetness of this excessive pain, that I could not wish to be rid of it. The soul is satisfied now with nothing less than God. The pain is not bodily, but spiritual; though the body has its share in it. It is a caressing of love so sweet which now takes place between the soul and God, that I pray God of His goodness to make him experience it who may think that I am lying.[4]

[FoolofaTook]

I defy anyone to deny how hot that is. I defy you!!

[redbreegull]

My one friend, we've known each other since elementary school, and we've been strictly platonic.... except for a handful of random times we've wound up going home together in the last five years or so. It's never felt awkward or weird when it happened, just a purely sexual thing. She is attractive but I would never date her.

Another really good friend, we knew each other for five years before we had sex. I had always felt magnetized to her but was really sure nothing would ever come of it. Then once after a night of drinking we just jumped on each other and continued hooking up regularly for several years. Turns out she wanted to fuck me just as bad the whole time. This relationship could have developed into a boyfriend/girlfriend thing but I chose to not let it manifest like that because I was in the other relationship at the time. Now she lives in SE Asia with a real boyfriend so missed opportunity I guess.

I also randomly hooked up with a girl I was close with in high school, but she freaked out about it afterwards and we ended our already sparse communication after that.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

why?

no one person can give another person everything they need

personally I also can't imagine a serious long-term relationship in which I couldn't consider my partner my best friend

I mean I wouldn't cede my other close friends, but I definitely look for a romantic relationship to be the most intimate, most personal relationship in my life

[buzzard]

Cool.