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Old 08-31-2016, 10:40 PM   #1891
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The thing is, half the reason I still don't want kids even after having been through a marriage is that I don't want my kids associating with those other kids. Nor do I want to have to make nice with the parents so my kids can have playpals and be normal.

If I had kids, they'd be those weird shut-in, home-schooled typed with no social skills that no one likes. Fuck that noise.

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:41 PM   #1892
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But you get to teach your children cool things like how to make napalm with petrol and polystyrene.

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:43 PM   #1893
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Sorry guys, too much child-talk, not enough Facebook memes.

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:18 PM   #1894
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One of my sisters told me last year that she flat-out regretted having kids, even though she loves them.

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:20 PM   #1895
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Being a kid vs. being with a kid are two different things though
yes but regardless I have trouble understanding how anyone who remembers the experience of being a kid could have a rosy romanticized vision of what that must be like as a parent

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:29 PM   #1896
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I am sure there is somebody out there that enjoyed childhood.

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:29 PM   #1897
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Who wouldn't want to have watched as I performed that fourteenth jump into the swimming pool?

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:36 PM   #1898
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this sounds like regret
I definitely cried for the first 4 months, grieving, and realising that my life was over. Then they put me on the prozac and I felt I lot better.

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:51 PM   #1899
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yes but regardless I have trouble understanding how anyone who remembers the experience of being a kid could have a rosy romanticized vision of what that must be like as a parent
I think a lot of time it's a mentality of "I'll make sure my kid has a better childhood than I did and I'll give them everything!"

You know. Something about a path to Hell, good intentions.

 
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:53 PM   #1900
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that just seems utterly ridiculous

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 12:08 AM   #1901
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It got a lot better once I could get a bit more sleep. I have actually loved being a mum. But it was such a huge shock to me. All of it.

But mostly, just how much I fucking care about them. I talk a lot of shit about them on here, but if I'm going to be truthful, I would do anything for them. They gave my shitty, empty life, a purpose.

Which isn't to say that everyone's lives are shitty and empty until they have children. I don't believe that at all. It's just that mine was. It was filled with a lot of temporary pleasures, but when those faded I felt a crippling sort of anxiety and dread about everything. I still feel that now, but just not as often, because I don't have as much free time. Like, when I say kids gave my life a purpose, I don't necessarily mean that I feel my life has meaning now. I just mean, I have a lot of shit to get done, now. Purposeful in that way.

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 03:32 AM   #1902
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I mean, I've made mistakes, but spreading my seed was not one of them.
i'm totally stealing this line for future use

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 02:19 PM   #1903
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Old 09-01-2016, 03:29 PM   #1904
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I laughed at that a little too loudly

 
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:40 PM   #1905
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I don't understand how anyone has any romantic notions about kids

is this just the result of people not remembering what it was like to a kid
i honestly believe that aborting a kid might be a better thing to do than having one, under any circumstance. i mean better to not get pregnant, i'm not trying to say yay for abortions. i just mean, living is fucking a lot of responsibility and confusing and yeah you feel happy sometimes but i mean you start from not understanding shit to gradual understanding you have a mind and consciousness and you have to become aware of the predicament you are in and everyone else has the same thing going on and are all experiencing similar things to you and are trying to navigate through life but we all die anyway and a good amount of life is physical and psychic pain i mean is it REALLY worth it???

life is shit

 
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:32 AM   #1906
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i'm pretty happy.

i don't understand what rbg means with "remembering what it was like to a kid".

 
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:46 AM   #1907
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The futility of it all, maybe? When you realized that life sucks? Kids grow up though, and some people are pretty great. All in all I like the process.

 
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Old 09-03-2016, 06:13 PM   #1908
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i'm pretty happy.

i don't understand what rbg means with "remembering what it was like to a kid".
Being a kid is very hard. Many kids are deeply unhappy the same way as adults. Most kids do fucked up shit. Even if you didn't you certainly knew kids who did fucked up shit. In hindsight, it should seem very obvious that kids experience a lot of pain and difficulty while growing up, and as a parent it is your DUTY to deal with this every second of every day for 18 years. Even when your kid is in school, you are responsible for that child's actions basically. You have to be constantly concerned and attentive.

Having worked in education, I came to believe that many adults honestly just straight up do not have accurate memories of life as a child. many adults approach kids from a completely adult angle, with tactics and rhetoric and teaching that obviously will not be effective with children. They ignore many problems that only children have because they can no longer relate to them. There is a fundamental disconnect between many adults and kids, almost like watching someone try to interact in a foreign culture or something. This is all anecdotal obviously, but I've been told by a fair number of adults they have totally hazy recollection of their childhoods, which is baffling to me because I remember my childhood in acute sensory detail. This is all compounded by our society's extremely misguided and romanticized perception of children as being "innocent" and "good," and propagation of the kind of sick idea that childhood is essentially about being carefree and having fun (newsflash it's not, kids are just as unhappy as adults and experience just as much existential angst, depression, fear, anxiety about the world around them, this is just the result of idiot adults bitching about having to work until they actually start to believe work is the worst thing ever)

So yeah I think there are plenty of people who legitimately do not have accurate memories of what being a child is like and this gives them a romanticized and twisted idea of what being the guardian of one of these little creatures will be like.

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Old 09-03-2016, 06:17 PM   #1909
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i dont have many acute memories of childhood except being confused constantly and feeling like i had to be the best at everything i did ever

i would never want to be a child again and i do sometimes think it's morally questionable to have a child at all with all the pain they go through.

today i had a customer at lottery at like 7:30 am and this dude walks up, I tell him I'll be with him in a moment. 20 secs later he goes "I don't have a minute, get a manager" and he proceeds to fucking unload on my manager, who gently and covertly walks the man outside to stop the spectacle in front of the customer service counter. later i found out it's the father of two boys who are baggers and all day i hear other stories of him complaining that our store gives black people all of the hours and not his kids and all kinds of other shit. which actually might be true statistically... since our full time baggers all happen to be black. but anyway, racist fucker right?

i feel so fucking bad for those kids. one is 14 or 15 and the other is 16 or 17. i seriously wanted to tell the one there today (The younger one) that I'm sorry your dad is such a piece of shit and if he's hitting him that it wasn't ok and he should tell someone he trusts. i mean i have no proof he is doing anything abusive to him but... you just know he probably is

 
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Old 09-03-2016, 06:23 PM   #1910
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later someone came up to the counter and said to my co-worker (who is hispanic) 'hi Juan or Fernando, one of those is your name right?' and he says 'no, it's Ryan' and the guy goes 'Oh, same thing right?'

like he handled it so cool and didnt get mad at the guy. i bet he deals with shit like that every day. jesus christ people.

 
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:36 PM   #1911
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why do ppl want to be kids again? who wants to go get beat up and abused by adults all the time? Jeezus, people

 
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:47 PM   #1912
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As a kid if you're hungry you have to cry until someone feeds you

As an adult you can buy a whole pizza eat one slice throw the rest away but another who cares

 
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Old 09-03-2016, 09:27 PM   #1913
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sometimes think it's morally questionable to have a child at all with all the pain they go through.
morally questionable?

 
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Old 09-03-2016, 09:56 PM   #1914
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like it's a legit question whether bring a child into the world causes more net suffering than net happiness for the child

i'm not saying this on a personal level, just philosophically

 
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:25 PM   #1915
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also whether or not another child's presence is beneficial to the world. the number of human beings and especially the resource allocation in Western countries is driving our species towards destruction

 
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Old 09-04-2016, 10:06 AM   #1916
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I don't know, that doesn't sound very adult to me. I'd gorge myself as much as I could and eat the rest for breakfast. Throwing perfectly edible food away is a sin.

 
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Old 09-04-2016, 10:08 AM   #1917
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also whether or not another child's presence is beneficial to the world. the number of human beings and especially the resource allocation in Western countries is driving our species towards destruction
This. The world really doesn't need every couple with a P & V to reproduce. We all will be fine without your hypothetical little Bryces and Annabelles running around, carrying your genes/legacy.

 
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Old 09-04-2016, 10:09 AM   #1918
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Like, there should be a tax credit for the child-free, not the other way around. Kids take up so many resources. And then they just grow up to be shit-heads.

 
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Old 09-04-2016, 05:11 PM   #1919
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and pay for our pensions

 
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Old 09-04-2016, 05:50 PM   #1920
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This isn't intentional humor but it's funny to me...a friend posted:

Y'all for the life of me I can't figure out why so many think im dumb like....im really really smart weather its book smart or street smart im not slow in no kinda way but I do play dumb from time to time tho but understand that there is even a motive that....sorry but I ain't sorry no no hell naw!!

 
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