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[Aeris]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Plus way too many uses of ridiculous bombs as plot devices

All Bane does is blow shit up or threaten to blow shit up

might want to watch the dark knight again

[Aeris]

or maybe not since that would require sitting through the unbelievably bad horseshit w/ the prisoners and civilians debating blowing each other up
it's a bad scene worse than anything in the dark knight rises and it goes on forever
also if you're going to complain about abandoning issues raised how bad is the thing where batman needs to create that surveillance system of everyone in the city and then he's like oh here's a self destruct i'll only use this horribly unethical thing one time please don't resign
why are you watching this stuff for themes and how they tackle real life issues and not like batman interacting w/ and fighting a good villain

[Aeris]

i'm basically communicating worse than fuzzyroses here but i don't care
i love stupid superhero shit and i particularly love the dark knight rises and don't understand why everyone else has been so down on it for four years
the first batman/bane fight is probably the best scene in a batman movie

[redbreegull]

From what is being written here, it seems some people feel TDKR was more about the villains than Batman. I only saw it once (compared to the dozen or so times I have seen TDK), but I can't remember hardly anything about the villains at all. The whole movie seemed to be entirely about Bruce Wayne's character with everything else taking a backseat.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Aeris

the first batman/bane fight is probably the best scene in a batman movie

It was pretty awesome

[buzzard]

Next, we discuss the enigmatic properties of a boiled potato.

[T&T]

ever boil a potato and it just disappeared? like it boiled away? This is a thing, they don't have an explanation yet.
They should do a MythBusters episode on that, or X-files now that it's back on.
the case of the disappearing boiled potato. Do ghosts eat potatoes?

[The exploding boy]

I gotta say even as someone who is a comic book nerd i find all three Nolan Batman films to be meh

First of all i don't find Bale to be a good Wayne or batman.

I actually downright disliked begins (i can't believe they went through with the ninja training scenes and i can't believe no one thought bale's batman voice was fucking stupid, first time he tried it nolan needed to walk up to him shake his head and say "just..dont.....don't do that"), thought whatever Ledger's joker was wasn't the joker and TDKR was predictable (not a fault for a superhero film per se except when you actually try for twists that no one fell for) and basically rehashed the same basic story (gotham is in some great big danger) as the other two. i mean does it always need to be destroy the city doomsday like scenarios?

Everyone knew Miranda was Talia Al's Ghul, Batman would never stop being batman whatever half baked reason you try to give for him giving it up, the insistence on not calling catwoman catwoman was just weird (you do realise the main character is still called batman? And no, The dark knight doesn't sound LESS silly) and in fact her presence was unnecessary (TDKR suffered from the classic too many characters syndrome that most superhero movies sequels end up suffering from) wtf was that Gordon levitt character? (in fact, why the fuck is Gordon-Levitt even getting work in anything?) AND they have batman retire a second time at the end, again something that is completely not in character.

And while i actually think tom hardy CAN pull off some good performances occasionally, all he did in TDKR is take a silly accent. Albeit one that is fun and easy to parody. But that's just it isn't it? It's kinda just stupid. Bane wasn't scary, he was hilarious .

The Burton films weren't much better but...i'd rather they acknowledge that it's kind of a silly story from a silly comic than try to do the whole half plausible thing Nolan attempted.

Anyway WB knows less than ever what they're doing so the great Batman film isn't going to happen. See Dawn of Just Shit.

[The exploding boy]

speaking of batman, heres a cake i made 2 days ago (i got a small batarang shaped cake pan from GF on xmas, among many other things)






It lost a bit of its shape on top because i put too much mix (so much so it spilled the equivalent of a small cupcake into the oven, which was a tragedy)

I know you're asking yourself the obvious question, does a batarang shaped cake taste better than just a regular shaped cake? To which i would answer, don't be stupid.

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by Aeris

this is unfair by the way
they had a vision for a trilogy that was sort of fucked up by heath ledger dying
the third movie was going to involve the joker and we'll basically never know what it really would have been like is they hadn't been forced to find a completely new villain while still tying it in with the entire arc which basically meant revisiting batman begins more than tdk

I remember after Begins coming out, Goyer or somebody else said that the second film would be The Joker, and the third would be the trial of The Joker and Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face. It looks like they changed their plans before Ledger even died, because they used Two-Face in the second one instead. After that, I remember Goyer and Nolan saying that they don't really plan things ahead that much, and just focus on the film at hand, instead of "saving things for the sequel." I've heard the thing about the third being planned to have The Joker return, but I've never seen it confirmed by the filmmakers. But I guess TDK does end with Joker being like, "immovable object unstoppable force something something You and I are destined to do this forever." And then that's the only time they ever fight ever. It does seem that they intended for The Joker to return.

Originally Posted by Aeris

or maybe not since that would require sitting through the unbelievably bad horseshit w/ the prisoners and civilians debating blowing each other up
it's a bad scene worse than anything in the dark knight rises and it goes on forever
also if you're going to complain about abandoning issues raised how bad is the thing where batman needs to create that surveillance system of everyone in the city and then he's like oh here's a self destruct i'll only use this horribly unethical thing one time please don't resign
why are you watching this stuff for themes and how they tackle real life issues and not like batman interacting w/ and fighting a good villain

You didn't like the boat scene? I will drag the mods back here to ban you.

As for the surveillance thing, I don't think that thing was just ignored. It was all part of the theme running throughout the movie about being forced to contradict your values. Like, Batman doesn't even really wanna be Batman anymore because he wants Gotham to have a legitimate hero and actual rule of law instead of an autocratic vigilante, but he's forced into the role of dictator (in ancient times, this word didn't have a negative connotation, the Romans would give someone absolute authority during crises). Despite the torture and surveillance and whatnot, Batman manages to suppress his anger and not break his no-kill rule with The Joker, but then is ironically forced to break it to kill Dent, who was supposed to be the "White Knight" who would bring Gotham legitimate law and relieve Wayne of having to be the Batman. Seems like they were borrowing some elements from the Socratic dialogues by having Batman tell the noble lie, and having him ultimately be condemned by the city he was only trying to save. (Also, this is incidental, but I love the triple-layered irony with Dent dying. Dent became Two-Face because he felt it was unfair that he was the only one between the three in the pact to clean up the city to suffer for it by losing his fiance... but that's because he doesn't realize that Batman lost as much as he did because he doesn't know that Batman also loved Dawes and expected to be with her, ...add to that, what Batman doesn't know is that Dawes wouldn't had picked him anyway, so he never had a chance of settling down with her after giving up Batman anyway [not that that makes her death less awful for him])

I think some people have read into this right-wing themes in support of Bush-era policies, but I think it would be a mistake to think of the movie as a morality tale, coming down on either side about whether or not what Batman did is right. It just uses these themes without trying to be a parable. And, at the end, there is the fact that the Gothamites didn't really need Batman to override their wills to save them from the ferry bombs (by any game theory analysis, this scene was incredibly unrealistic and there was no reason for anybody not to press the detonator as soon as possible, but whatever, I can live with some breaks from reality), and all the times Batman uses torture fail to work, and he just ends up walking away in an impotent rage.

I dunno, I think you can make a compelling story out of anything. I don't really believe in the whole "this thing is supposed to be silly so you shouldn't even try to have it carry meaning." Things can be both Hollywood fun and actually have something going on.

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

Batman would never stop being batman whatever half baked reason you try to give for him giving it up

I thought having him retire after TDK didn't make much thematic sense, because I interpreted the entire point of the end of TDK to indicate that, Harvey Dent was Wayne's ticket out of the burden of being Batman, but Batman was forced to kill Gotham's White Knight, so he kind of condemned himself to forever be the Dark Knight. That only really makes sense if he keeps on being Batman. But I guess I can kind of understand the way they went with it. He decided that Gotham being cleaned up meant that he wasn't needed anymore, but still never really went back to being a normal person because his incentive for that (Rachel Dawes) was gone and he didn't have anything to go back to.

I had no problem with Batman retiring at the end of the movie, though. At first, I was kind of like, "that's okay for this version, but everyone knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman forever (lol... Batman Forever...) But the more I thought about it, the more it made sense. Why would anybody want to be Batman forever? If Wayne became Batman specifically to fight the sort of rampant crime that created him, and he also never wanted to stop being Batman, that'd mean that he'd want that sort of crime to exist forever. I actually like the interpretation that deep down, he wants it to be a temporary thing, after which he can find peace and actually be Bruce Wayne and live a life his parents would had wanted him to, instead of going out every night getting into fights. I mean, the comics can't have that happen, because they have to keep on being published, but the movies didn't have that restriction. I've now been won over by the "Batman would totally want to retire" thing.

Originally Posted by buzzard

Next, we discuss the enigmatic properties of a boiled potato.

SOMEBODY GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE

[Disco King]

Guys I'm embarrassed by how much I've typed

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Disco King

I remember after Begins coming out, Goyer or somebody else said that the second film would be The Joker, and the third would be the trial of The Joker and Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face. It looks like they changed their plans before Ledger even died, because they used Two-Face in the second one instead. After that, I remember Goyer and Nolan saying that they don't really plan things ahead that much, and just focus on the film at hand, instead of "saving things for the sequel." I've heard the thing about the third being planned to have The Joker return, but I've never seen it confirmed by the filmmakers. But I guess TDK does end with Joker being like, "immovable object unstoppable force something something You and I are destined to do this forever." And then that's the only time they ever fight ever. It does seem that they intended for The Joker to return.

after TDK though, it would have been so tired and trite to see the Joker captured again only to inevitably escape again... maybe they had something really creative planned for him in the third installment but I have trouble picturing it doing anything but retreading and diminishing what had already been done. The way it ended, although it left us "hanging," made a very clean cut in a narrative sense. The Joker is broken by being taken alive, this time in a "final" sense, and Batman gives up everything to not violate his values. He is triumphant because after everything, he won't kill The Joker. By having this story just end, it allows us to accept these things and move on which is important especially for Bruce Wayne's character. Although it doesn't make the most sense that the Joker is just taken in and that's it, it keeps the plot and the very neatly tied up moral/philosophical arc of the movie from becoming a mess. It also keeps TDK mostly self-contained, which also adds to its power.

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Guys I'm embarrassed by how much I've typed

me too, son. me too.

[redbreegull]

[Aeris]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

I gotta say even as someone who is a comic book nerd

as a comic book nerd you're calling out a movie series for having bruce wayne retire from being batman???
he does it a lot
he fakes his death, he quits, he passes the mantle of batman onto somebody else

[Aeris]

Originally Posted by Disco King

SOMEBODY GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE

i raise you a

[Aeris]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

Bane wasn't scary, he was hilarious .

obviously it didn't work for you since he was supposed to be scary but you do understand that bane was supposed to be funny right
there's this perception of the nolan batmans as nothing but dour grimdark seriousness that i will never understand

[Aeris]

the jgl character was kind of a lame take on robin and azrael
he's just kind of there and he never really demonstrates the skill that would be needed to become the batman
i didn't like that they definitively said he was robin w/ the silly name reveal
leaving it that he could either be a substitute for robin or azrael would better
even if they never make another and i think they won't i still think it works to wonder whether blake is actually some jerkoff psycho like jean-paul who is gonna go nuts killing criminals as batman and force wayne back
although i guess forcing him back from another retirement would be awful but i just didn't like "heheee i like your name....ROBIN *winks at audience*"

[Disco King]

Kind of had an awkward Facebook-related moment in class today. Had to form groups for a group project, and somebody I know from another course let me into her group. She was setting up a Facebook chat and asked what name I go by, so that she could find me on Facebook... only thing is that we already have each other on Facebook. I dunno, I see her posts a lot (I dunno if the Facebook algorithm makes them more visible to me, or if she just posts a lot), so it felt weird realizing that she didn't notice she had me the whole time. I didn't want to betray that fact, so instead of going "we already have each other," I tried to act as surprised as she was. "Oh really? Wow."

Then it got me thinking about how nobody knows me and how I'm pretty much anonymous and I probably think about any given person I know in my life way more often than that person thinks about me (other than where it comes to my mother or something). It's kind of a weird feeling, remembering that you're just sort of a background character.

Originally Posted by redbreegull

after TDK though, it would have been so tired and trite to see the Joker captured again only to inevitably escape again... maybe they had something really creative planned for him in the third installment but I have trouble picturing it doing anything but retreading and diminishing what had already been done. The way it ended, although it left us "hanging," made a very clean cut in a narrative sense. The Joker is broken by being taken alive, this time in a "final" sense, and Batman gives up everything to not violate his values. He is triumphant because after everything, he won't kill The Joker. By having this story just end, it allows us to accept these things and move on which is important especially for Bruce Wayne's character. Although it doesn't make the most sense that the Joker is just taken in and that's it, it keeps the plot and the very neatly tied up moral/philosophical arc of the movie from becoming a mess. It also keeps TDK mostly self-contained, which also adds to its power.

Yeah, I think it wouldn't be a great idea to have two Joker films in a row. When you have something good, it's often better to avoid the urge to bleed it dry. Though I wonder if maybe the plan was to give him a presence in a third film without making him the main villain. Maybe it'd had been something as small as giving him the cameo as the judge at Bane's trials instead of the Scarecrow.
It does feel kinda odd that they don't even so much as reference the villain who kind of set up the premise of the third film in TDKR, but I can kind of understand why Nolan would be reluctant to after his death. If they didn't decide to have Batman retire between the second and third film, I wonder if they would maybe just state that he and Joker fought several times in the interim period, cementing them as archfoes. The end of TDK does feel like they wanted him to be a recurring character.

[Run To Me]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Guys I'm embarrassed by how much I've typed

Don't be too embarrassed I read it and it made me appreciate the Dark Knight more than I already did.

Unfortunately I got drunk like an idiot and so ruined it for myself in the theater. I only started to love it after watching it multiple times after it came out on tv

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by Aeris

as a comic book nerd you're calling out a movie series for having bruce wayne retire from being batman???
he does it a lot
he fakes his death, he quits, he passes the mantle of batman onto somebody else

It's kinda funny that Bruce Wayne isn't actually Batman right now. Jim Gordon is the current Batman (in a mecha Batman suit or something). I dunno, I usually like when they temporarily have somebody else take up a superhero mantle even though it's a repetitive gimmick, but Scott Snyder's Death of the Family storyline kind of soured me on his run and I gave up. Capullo is great, though.

Originally Posted by Aeris

obviously it didn't work for you since he was supposed to be scary but you do understand that bane was supposed to be funny right
there's this perception of the nolan batmans as nothing but dour grimdark seriousness that i will never understand

Yeah, I never found that they are joyless or take themselves too seriously, either. There's plenty of mirth. In fact, this version of Bruce Wayne has a pretty good sense of humour, instead of always just being JUSTICE VENGEANCE THE NIGHT MY PARENTS ARE DEAD I DON'T TRUST ANYONE

His snarky interactions with Alfred are always fun.

Originally Posted by Aeris

the jgl character was kind of a lame take on robin and azrael
he's just kind of there and he never really demonstrates the skill that would be needed to become the batman
i didn't like that they definitively said he was robin w/ the silly name reveal
leaving it that he could either be a substitute for robin or azrael would better
even if they never make another and i think they won't i still think it works to wonder whether blake is actually some jerkoff psycho like jean-paul who is gonna go nuts killing criminals as batman and force wayne back
although i guess forcing him back from another retirement would be awful but i just didn't like "heheee i like your name....ROBIN *winks at audience*"

I saw them naming him "Robin" as more of a wink to the audience than him actually being much of an adaption of Robin. It seemed a little unNolan to do it, but I also feel like Nolan upped the cute fanservice for this one.

One thing that bothered me about Blake was how he just knew Wayne was Batman for no reason. At first, I thought he was gonna be that kid from Begins who's all like "the other kids don't believe me that Batman is real" and then Batman throws him one of his gadgets as a keepsake. That's the same kid who's with Dawes when Batman rescues them, and he reveals her identity to her (and she says "Bruce" aloud, which could plausibly lead the kid to draw the connection to Wayne). But nope, not that kid.

I mean, I know that wouldn't had made sense, because 8 or 9 years or whatever wouldn't be enough time for that kid to grow up to be Joseph Gordon-Levitt and become a full detective, but it'd still be better than "one time you came into my orphanage and you were just making this Batman face the whole time that only I could see because I have special Batman eyes"

Also yeah Batman had, like, seven years of Batman training around the globe. JGL went through the police physical. I feel like 2 weeks into his retirement in Europe, Wayne would pick up a paper that read "Extra! Extra! Gotham vigilante beaten to death by criminal whose thing is basing crimes on types of rocks and minerals," and he'd be like, "goddamn it, I have to make a heroic comeback again?"

[MyOneAndOnly]

[crabshack]

scotty doesn't yet realize that they have created robots and programs to do the "work" that he's doing.

hey man, thanks for the links! much obliged. real funny photos!

[redbreegull]

[Disco King]

A group of people, including at least a couple of them being people I went to high school with, are on trial or gang-beating to death a person.



Though what they did is horrible, I do admire the ethnic diversity of their gang.

[teh b0lly!!1]

that's pretty rare actually. i'd almost go as far as to praise their tolerance and willingness to accept their fellow man...

but you know, they uh... beat another fellow man to death, so...

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

i'm embarrassed to say i watched this repeat like 5 times trying to catch a glimpse of a passing tit

[Disco King]

Some of my Facebook friends are somewhere between Jaden Smith and fuzzyroes.

[redbreegull]

you gotta love how people feel it's fine to totally just make some shit up and think that's as good an opinion as any

[Cool As Ice Cream]

lol