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[Disco King]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

it's one of those things in life that seems too good to be true. one day I think I will wake up and adblock will have been a beautiful dream I had, or the government will just make it illegal

Yeah, I love Adbloc, but I feel like it can't last. Advertisers are going to have to do something about the fact that they aren't getting any benefit from buying adspace that no one sees. Either they will start pulling out and websites will start forcing us to pay for content, or lobbyists will try to pass regulations against blocking ads, or they will just come up with technology to circumvent adblocs.

Originally Posted by buzzard

Honestly, you just plain deserve to suffer a complete system meltdown if you think you're actually getting an advanced Blu-ray rip of Suicide Squad that inexplicably comes only as an executable.

Honestly, you just plain deserve to suffer a complete system meltdown if you even ever want to have Suicide Squad on home video, even if it is the correct file.

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I'm totally ignorant when it comes to this type of thing, but what's even the purpose/endgame behind that? Just having someone download it to fuck up their computer? Is there even any monetary purpose behind it?

I think most malware is spyware or adware. The former steals your information (keyloggers, for example), and the latter generates adverts. Those definitely have financial motivations. As for the sort of malware that just destroys your computer, my only answer is that some men just want to watch the world burn.

[buzzard]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Honestly, you just plain deserve to suffer a complete system meltdown if you even ever want to have Suicide Squad on home video, even if it is the correct file.

Between the two of us, José, that very thought was a sort of Easter egg buried within my post.

Sadly, however, you just know it's going to be this year's cinematic bandwagon, regardless.

[redbreegull]

how have comic book/superhero movies not burned themselves out yet?

[Disco King]

I don't dislike the genre on principle (I mean, I'm a huge superhero comic nut). It's just that most of them are shit, and this one looks like it'll be special shit.

Also, who do you guys will think this summer's biggest meme character, Deadpool or Harley Quinn?

Jared Leto chose to remain in-character as the Joker during filming of the upcoming DC Comics' adaptation of the revered SUICIDE SQUAD comic series, directed by David Ayer, of TRAINING DAY fame. As shooting venture into April, the cast was anxious for what pranks Leto would pull on them on the legendary April's Fools.

"We were all pretty scared", said Ayer, "Jared was insane enough on the normal days, we figured he'd go into overdrive on April's Fools." As the filming of another scene began, one in which Leto's Joker intimidates Arkham Asylum psychiatrist Hugo Strange, played by Ike Barimholtz, the crew could barely contain their unrest. "We were certain Ike would be the butt of the joke, even he was, but Jared instead finished the take, looked straight into a camera for almost five minutes. We were all really perplexed."

A source close to production claims Leto then removed his shirt and spoke to the crew, "We are monsters masquerading as humans, children of chaos sucking on order's tit like a cockroach. Today is the only day we're true to ourselves. Happy birthday, society", and then left the set for three days.

"I was blown away", said Ayer, "I gave everyone the day off because I myself needed to go someplace quiet, lie down and think things through. As I was doing, I realized Jared had tapped into something raw, something primordial, he had become the mouthpiece of that dark voice in our heads we always ignore. That was the day I really knew the Joker had arrived, And I was worried maybe, maybe Jared Leto would never come back"

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[teh b0lly!!1]

i'm speechless at how transparent and lame of an attempt at generating buzz this is

[Disco King]

Even director David Ayer wasn't safe from Leto's twisted vision.

"One time I yelled 'cut' and Jared turned to me and said 'what if someone just stood in the middle of Wall Street and yelled cut? Maybe the monikers in suits would forget their trained routine of going to work' My jaw hit the floor and it never really came back up. That's when I thought, is he getting in character to play Joker, or is Joker something that's been in him all along?"

"Sometimes i would go to look into the cameras, and I noticed Jared had put something in the lens. It was stuff like 'What if cameras were guns? Would you buy a mass murderer?' and 'Lights. Camera. Insanity.' I had to ask him to stop because I was getting too scared to direct."

Jared Leto is quite the gift giver.
His Suicide Squad co-stars received letters and presents after the Oscar winner wasn't around much when they first started prepping the movie.
"He sent Margot Robbie a nice love letter with a black box with a rat in it—a live rat," Adam Beach, who plays Slipnot in the Warner Bros. film, told me last night at the premiere of Joe Dirt 2: Beautiful Loser. "It was beautiful. Then he sent bullets to Will Smith with a letter."
Talk about method gift-giving.
The cast also received a video and—get ready for it!—a "dead hog."
"Basically, what he said was, 'Guys, I can't be there but I want you to know I'm doing my work as hard as you guys,'" Beach said. "The video he showed is in character. It blew our minds away. Then we realized that day, this is real."

Yeah, you can tell that the studio is pushing the "Leto is getting soo enveloped in the role!" idea because, after Ledger, every actor who portrays the character will have to pretend that he's actually committed a mass murder to prepare for the role.

These are all actually pastiches making fun of the studio buzz. One of them, however, is real. BUT WHICH ONE?

[redbreegull]

yeah the way in which they are trying to create hype around Leto to mimic the hype around Ledger is really, really fucking lame.

[teh b0lly!!1]

as if it's even a challenge to go full but shit insane as an actor. it's nothing to pride yourself on, much less try to magnify in an attempt to get recognition.

ledger's portrayal of the joker (and many other insane villains in cinema) was so legendary because he captured the nuances of an insane person, he didn't grin and manifest their whole insanity at any given time

[redbreegull]

I think Ledger was so good because he didn't play the Joker as an "insane" or unhinged person. He was a calculating psychopath whose absolute disregard for life made him terrifying... not because he was a violent random lunatic, but because he was a composed and politically minded man with an agenda, who understood how powerful fear and pain are as motivators.

[Elphenor]

There's just so much other untapped material can we move past The Joker

[T&T]

you guys stay friends with these people?

[Elphenor]

A more realistic portrayal of The Penguin than what's in Burtons version for example could make for an interesting lead villain in a Batman film

Go into how Copplepot is also the product of dead wealthy parents but how he turns out as a direct foil to batman

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I think Ledger was so good because he didn't play the Joker as an "insane" or unhinged person. He was a calculating psychopath whose absolute disregard for life made him terrifying... not because he was a violent random lunatic, but because he was a composed and politically minded man with an agenda, who understood how powerful fear and pain are as motivators.

Yeah, even though the Joker is often called "insane," he seems more a psychopath than psychotic, and it seems pretty clear that he knows right from wrong and reality from non-reality. Even the more colorful versions of the character, like Nicholson's, are always pretty calculating psychopaths.

Ledger's Joker was great because of how well he functioned as a foil to Batman, and as sort of an existential challenge to everything Batman, Gordon, and Dent believed in, trying to force them to compromise their ideals. He's kind of just the wringer that the characters are put through to see how far they can be pushed toward the line.

Nolan's Batman was the first film adaptation to actually be about Batman, instead of being driven by the villain's schemes. It's the first to not just take for granted the premise that Bruce Wayne dresses up as a bat to fight bad guys, but instead questioned why and justified every element of his existence. It builds him from the ground up, instead of just relying on audiences' familiarity with Batman. On the other hand, Joker is given no origin or explanation, he's just kind of there, an inexplicable constant, which makes him a nice contrast to Batman. It also has parallels to the first ever Joker appearance in the comics, where he isn't yet given an origin, and just comes out of nowhere to commit sensational crimes for the fun of it.

Though Joker kind of steals the show, he really is just a flat character that's used to further the arcs of the real characters. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, because not all characters need to by dynamic and round in order to serve a narrative well. Joker works well in exploring Wayne's contradictions between his ideals of rule of law and his utterly illegitimate mission. He works well in influencing Dent's tragic (in the classical sense) character arc.

It was pretty cool how involved Ledger got into designing the character. He made a journal of the sorts of things Joker would find funny, and took inspiration from a lot of comics, and not just the popular ones like Killing Joke or whatever. Grant Morrison was pretty chuffed that there was material from his prose issue of Batman that "nobody really read." Ledger came up with the idea of having makeup on Joker's fingers to indicate how haphazardly he applies it, and he and Nolan came up with the ideas of taking inspiration from Francis Bacon paintings and Alex from A Clockwork Orange. Ledger even directed some of the Joker scenes himself, without Nolan.

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

There's just so much other untapped material can we move past The Joker

Yeah, I like Joker and Harley Quinn, but they feel shoehorned in this movie. Like, why the fuck would they be in a Skwad film? I know they put Harley on the team in the recent comics, but it's never made sense. "Oh yeah, lets put this person we know is insane and unpredictable and who doesn't even have amazing martial arts skills on our black-ops team employed in super sensitive missions." I feel like they are going to come up with bullshit plot armour for The Joker to actually be a threat to the team, as well. I'm calling it now. That magical chick tries to possess The Joker or something, but then goes "oh no, I can't control him... he's too MAD! I'm trapped in his head!" because being crazy is a superpower.

I'd probably be more excited for this film if it looked like it were more similar to the original John Ostrander material, kind of addressing U.S. realpolitik and geopolitical interests, as well as the psychology behind the characters and how they rationalize their actions (the original run often showed members being debriefed or evaluated by their in-house psychologist), instead of just looking like it's a "zany action romper about bad guys who discover that there's good in everyone as they take on some other worse bad guy." Also, if it didn't have Joker and Harley, who are good in their proper places, but will probably take up 50% of the screentime wanking their popularity.

Originally Posted by Elphenor

A more realistic portrayal of The Penguin than what's in Burtons version for example could make for an interesting lead villain in a Batman film

Go into how Copplepot is also the product of dead wealthy parents but how he turns out as a direct foil to batman

That'd be great. Penguin is cool because he's more of a foil to Bruce Wayne than Batman. One of Gotham's elite, but who doesn't share Wayne's altruism.

There were a few good recent Penguin stories in the comics. Greg Hurwitz's Penguin: Pain and Prejudice is kind of a character study on him, exploring his relationship with his mother and his feelings of inadequacy and whatnot. In terms of villain studies, I'd say it's near Azzarello's Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. John Layman's run on Detective Comics used Penguin a lot, putting emphasis on his rivalry with Wayne.


Seeing as Batman is supposed to be a detective, but we hardly ever see that in movie adaptations, I think it'd be cool if we got a straight-up murder mystery Batman film. No cheating or ass pulls like Loeb did in Hush or some shit (I don't understand why everybody loves that story), just a British-style mystery where we're introduced to all the suspects and the clues as the detective hero encounters them. Maybe have some serial killer picking off Gotham socialites or something, and have the rogues in the backdrop.

[Elphenor]

Would be cool to see the Riddler depicted in that way as a genius serial killer playing with The Worlds Greatest Detective

[Disco King]

Yeah, that's one direction to go in with the Riddler. Sort of make him like Kevin Spacey in Seven or something.

I also think it's cool when The Riddler is more of a non-lethal conman who's less about the mayhem and more about just trying to show off how smart he is by pulling of complicated capers and being compelled to challenge people to solve his crimes because of the ego boost he gets from stumping people. Sort of like an Albert Spaggiari-type character, maybe even thinking violence is beneath him because he favors intellectual challenges, which would distinguish him from somebody like The Joker. Of course, if they went the less violent route, he probably wouldn't be the main villain. Maybe a side villain that Batman tolerates because he's a valuable informant about the underworld (though knowing Riddler, even if he were to give Batman info, he wouldn't make it easy; it'd be in the form of riddles).

[Run To Me]

I wasn't aware of this OMG leto's losing it too, character must be CURSED hysteria/meme/whatever.

Just wanted to point out how so fucking disappointing it is that we'd rather believe in a curse than mental illness and addiction. Man, fuck fbook this is why I can never be on this shit.

[Run To Me]

He grinned at me, insanely







Insanely

[T&T]

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Disco King

because being crazy is a superpower.

I have to say one of the cooler things about The Joker is how Harley Quinn was his psychiatrist as if prolonged exposure to The Joker will cause you to bend to insanity as well

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Disco King

On the other hand, Joker is given no origin or explanation, he's just kind of there, an inexplicable constant, which makes him a nice contrast to Batman. It also has parallels to the first ever Joker appearance in the comics, where he isn't yet given an origin, and just comes out of nowhere to commit sensational crimes for the fun of it.

A nice touch was how he gave two totally different origin stories for the scars on his face during the dramatic scenes

pretty clever

I'm interested in what you think of Bane and what you think of the third Nolan film. I thought Rises was pretty weak and all over the place in comparison to the previous two which both seemed to hold strong central themes, the first "The making of a symbol" and the second "Chaos vs. Order and Idealism" so that the films were about more than Batman beating up villains

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

A nice touch was how he gave two totally different origin stories for the scars on his face during the dramatic scenes

Yeah, it's kind of like how in Mad Love, the Joker tells Harley some sob story about his childhood that makes her feel pity for him, and later on, Batman reveals to her that he has a million contradicting stories like that. The Killing Joke also has The Joker state that he can't really remember his own past all that well, and that he prefers to have it "multiple choice."

Originally Posted by Elphenor

I'm interested in what you think of Bane and what you think of the third Nolan film. I thought Rises was pretty weak and all over the place in comparison to the previous two which both seemed to hold strong central themes, the first "The making of a symbol" and the second "Chaos vs. Order and Idealism" so that the films were about more than Batman beating up villains

I only saw the third one once when it first came out. I found it the weakest of the three, but overall, it wasn't too bad.

I dunno, I found that it didn't really resolve its themes that well. Like, it kind of brings back the class ideas from the first one about how the poverty and corruption in Gotham were the root causes of the crime, with Bane using those class cleavages to his advantage. But that theme becomes pretty irrelevant to the plot early on and nothing is really done with it. It kind of just turns into Bane being evil, and we don't really see regular Gothamites' sentiments about it. Then the film ends with Batman beating Bane, and retiring to live happily ever after without ever addressing the inequality that allowed people like Bane to arise in the first place. Also, the whole subplot in the previous one about Gotham's peace being built on a noble lie and the questions about legitimacy and corruption that brings up didn't really go anywhere. Bane is like "oh by the way I found this note saying this thing about Harvey Dent" and we get one scene of Joseph Gordon-Levitt being like "that's bad" but no one else cares and that's the end of that.

The film also kind of had more implausible leaps in the plot and weird internal logic than the other two. Like, the entire plot point about the stock exchange made no sense, no matter how charitable you are with it. Bane does shit at the stock exchange building, which somehow affects real stocks, which somehow makes Bruce Wayne poor (even if that were a thing you can do... why would Wayne have no wealth or assets outside of those stocks? Why would his shit be repossessed and his power be cut off?), and nobody is like, "hey, what if this thing that is happening to Wayne is because of that very public terrorist attack at the place with stocks last night?"

I did like Bane, though. He was pretty terrifying, like Jaws from James Bond crossed with Darth Vader or something (was Jaws terrifying? I can't remember, I haven't watched 007 since I was a kid so maybe I just remember him being terrifying). The way he just did everything with his bare hands was pretty brutal. I also liked how calm and almost upbeat he sounded while he was doing all that shit. I thought that the twist at the end kind of took away from him, though. It was like, "oh, so all that backstory I was learning has nothing to do with the villain I've been watching for the past two hours. He's just some other guy. Okay, so I know, like, nothing about him, I guess." I felt like the twist only really worked as a nod to the comics for fans who know all about Ra's and Talia al Ghul, but in-universe, it doesn't make much sense. What was the point of telling Gothamites that a "citizen" had the detonator? It's a surprise to the audience, who knows all about the Miranda Tate subplot, but it doesn't seem that it'd mean much to anybody actually in the story. And if they were expecting Wayne to be in the prison the whole time, the revelation that Tate had the trigger would be meaningless to him, too.

I kind of feel like TDKR is the kind of film you get when the filmmakers only really have ideas for two films but have a three-picture deal with the studio. But I did like how it tied up Bruce Wayne's arc. This version of Batman is one who really just wanted to have a normal life, but felt the need to create Batman out of duty. It was interesting how, instead of just going on forever, they actually had him find peace and conclude his story. Not as good as the first two, but still better than 95% of superhero movies, IMO.

[Aeris]

jaws is like comic relief if you ever revisit those
he's comic relief in the roger moore era bond movies

[Aeris]

the point was leading everyone to believe that literally anyone could be able to detonate the bomb

[Aeris]

i think the twist takes more away from talia as a character than bane
i keep seeing people say it turned him into just talia's "muscle" but it doesn't at any point make it seem like he wasn't involved in the planning of all the stuff in the movie, all of which clearly took more than just brute force to pull off and he was clearly a True Believer in the league

[Aeris]

Originally Posted by Disco King

I kind of feel like TDKR is the kind of film you get when the filmmakers only really have ideas for two films but have a three-picture deal with the studio.

this is unfair by the way
they had a vision for a trilogy that was sort of fucked up by heath ledger dying
the third movie was going to involve the joker and we'll basically never know what it really would have been like is they hadn't been forced to find a completely new villain while still tying it in with the entire arc which basically meant revisiting batman begins more than tdk

[Elphenor]

Yeah that's what I was getting at, there's these ideas of inequality and corruption that are touched upon but then it just becomes your basic hero vs villain with a meh twist

I felt like I was watching Rocky

Hero comes out of retirement to fight new challenger. Hero loses. But wait! He gets back up!

[Elphenor]

Plus way too many uses of ridiculous bombs as plot devices

All Bane does is blow shit up or threaten to blow shit up

How convenient that Wayne enterprises has a fucking doomsday device already premade

Also Batman should have actually died at the end

[buzzard]

Hissing laughter, prosthetic scarring and face paint.

The makings of a genius.