America just arrested soccer

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

hah yrah cuz its not like construction in the us relies on illegal immigrant labor so they can pay them next to nothing

right. Like in the tech-labor market, where's the FBI on the Ellisons and Zuckerberg's of the world always pushing for foreign visa's to tech workers claiming a shortage here in the states when there isn't one. Or the collusion between Google and Apple to keep wages down by not headhunting each others workers.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

hah yrah cuz its not like construction in the us relies on illegal immigrant labor so they can pay them next to nothing

Do you have actual knowledge of professional sports venues being built by immigrant labor? Large scale construction projects aren't like landscaping projects. But regardless

You really want to compare what's happening in Qatar right now to anything that happens here? They don't even get paid. They pay for the privilege and then are not allowed to leave. And they die on the job at astonishing rates. Come on.

[duovamp]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i do want to say honly in america would fifa get indicted. the only major economic power in the world that isnt deep in the business and passion of soccer

further something must be done abt qatar. it is disappointing no one has propsed boycotts. imagine if those german sausage eaters said fuck qatar

That's the beauty of it. The US is the only country with the resources and the lack of fucks given about soccer to do it. It's remarkable, really.

From getting their informant to squawk to get himself out of hot water, to these criminals being stupid enough to operate in US borders and use US banks, to Switzerland agreeing to go along with it, it's an incredible and historic moment.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

Do you have actual knowledge of professional sports venues being built by immigrant labor? Large scale construction projects aren't like landscaping projects. But regardless

You really want to compare what's happening in Qatar right now to anything that happens here? They don't even get paid. They pay for the privilege and then are not allowed to leave. And they die on the job at astonishing rates. Come on.

lol landscaping, you fucking racist

[Trotskilicious]

im just saying qatar is slavery, the construction industry in the us (not landscaping) is only a few degrees better

and if you want to talk abt bilking taxpayers out of money google marlins park

thanks

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

Do you have actual knowledge of professional sports venues being built by immigrant labor? Large scale construction projects aren't like landscaping projects. But regardless

You really want to compare what's happening in Qatar right now to anything that happens here? They don't even get paid. They pay for the privilege and then are not allowed to leave. And they die on the job at astonishing rates. Come on.

Granted... thus, the low hanging fruit to get some serious PR points worldwide. Not good in the long run imho, whatever comes of this.

[duovamp]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

im just saying qatar is slavery, the construction industry in the us (not landscaping) is only a few degrees better

and if you want to talk abt bilking taxpayers out of money google marlins park

thanks

Any large scale operation (over 1 mil) in the US is typically legal, contracted, and uses union labor.

Little shit like landscaping isn't.

[sppunk]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

im just saying qatar is slavery, the construction industry in the us (not landscaping) is only a few degrees better

and if you want to talk abt bilking taxpayers out of money google marlins park

thanks

Stadium jobs almost always use, by law, citizens. The requirements, union needs, etc. mandate that at least, thankfully.

Qatar getting the WC is what's caused this. These dumb fucks using US banks for bribery shows how little they care.

America is the last place on earth you want to use a bank for bribe money.

[toase]

After ignoring most of the posts here, I say this has a been a good week, finally, probably the first in the year with mostly good news (for this part of the americas, maybe)

EDIT: It took only a few hours, but after saying that companies could not donate to political campaigns the congress just approved another law stating companies could donate money to political parties, which is virtually the same thing. It was good while it lasted.

[Bread Regal]

Originally Posted by sppunk

Stadium jobs almost always use, by law, citizens. The requirements, union needs, etc. mandate that at least, thankfully.

Qatar getting the WC is what's caused this. These dumb fucks using US banks for bribery shows how little they care.

America is the last place on earth you want to use a bank for bribe money.

Yeah shoulda went with HSBC.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by duovamp

Any large scale operation (over 1 mil) in the US is typically legal, contracted, and uses union labor.

Little shit like landscaping isn't.

texas doesnt have unions, just because they have legal paperwork doesnt make it legal

also many illegal immigrants use stolen ssns and they will do hard labor for very little

but i suppose

[Trotskilicious]

look, ultimately what i'm trying to say is that we're all slaves when we do not control the means of production but yes we can feel good about being better than qatar, at least

But you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!

[Trotskilicious]

i just really think it's naive to think that wall street and banks aren't run the same way and that ultimately most of these justifications about how at least america is better is really just spin

but yeah our worker fatality rate is real low and all the assorted other human rights violations i mean that's obvious. it's a crime against humanity that the entire western world is enabling so there's that dimension too

[Trotskilicious]

because nobody has stopped funding FIFA, nobody's backing out of the world cup. oh the qatari stadiums are built with slaves that die all the time....
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what are "we" better at, again?

[Trotskilicious]

i'm super high and wasting time again i'm sorry

[Sonic Johnny]

I like the bit where huge banks and corporates and mining companies regularly fuck civilisation into the dirt for profit, grinding the working classes into a fine paste under the heels of their boots, evading massive tax payments and buying the silence of government bodies left right and centre, and nobody does a fucking thing about it, but when the soccer doesn't get played in America that's when the buck has to stop and corporate corruption needs to be dealt with.

[Trotskilicious]

i've said for a while that i expect america to end up with the 2022 world cup because this qatar thing just can't happen

[Trotskilicious]

did you guys hear about the FIFA movie that they funded to present themselves as some kind of heroic figures? it's got tim roth, sam neill and gerard depardeiu in it. it was screened at cannes and in serbia. as of two years ago they plan to release it in other countries

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2814362/

[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by Mayfuck

anyway kudos to USA for trolling FIFA

wha happen?

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

im just saying qatar is slavery, the construction industry in the us (not landscaping) is only a few degrees better

and if you want to talk abt bilking taxpayers out of money google marlins park

thanks

Bilking taxpayers is comparable to killing slave laborers?

What

[Trotskilicious]

fifa bilks taxpayers also, it wasn't a point related to slave labor

read the rest of the thread

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

I like the bit where huge banks and corporates and mining companies regularly fuck civilisation into the dirt for profit, grinding the working classes into a fine paste under the heels of their boots, evading massive tax payments and buying the silence of government bodies left right and centre, and nobody does a fucking thing about it, but when the soccer doesn't get played in America that's when the buck has to stop and corporate corruption needs to be dealt with.

What does this have to do with "soccer not getting played in America?"

[Trotskilicious]

i figured he meant that we were one of the main competitors for the 2022 cup

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

What does this have to do with "soccer not getting played in America?"

Because the only reason FIFA are getting stung for corruption is because a bunch of American millionaires and billionaires stand to lose a shitload of money if they don't host the World Cup. Until the 1% are losing money, nothing gets done. Again.

[Eulogy]

I didn't even remember that

Not very many people here care, SJ. For better or worse.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

Because the only reason FIFA are getting stung for corruption is because a bunch of American millionaires and billionaires stand to lose a shitload of money if they don't host the World Cup. Until the 1% are losing money, nothing gets done. Again.

Where are you getting this information

[Eulogy]

I think people here would be just fine with the UK or Germany hosting.

[Eulogy]

Like your anger toward american oligarchy is admirable but this seems like a weird flag to plant

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

I like the bit where huge banks and corporates and mining companies regularly fuck civilisation into the dirt for profit, grinding the working classes into a fine paste under the heels of their boots, evading massive tax payments and buying the silence of government bodies left right and centre, and nobody does a fucking thing about it, but when the soccer doesn't get played in America that's when the buck has to stop and corporate corruption needs to be dealt with.

It does get played here

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

I didn't even remember that

Not very many people here care, SJ. For better or worse.

the popularity grown every year since 1994, and it doesn't really matter how much the home country is into it because of the tourism