Josh Duggar molested some kids

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Poots

But even doing the intimidation thing with a dog or child is based on our primal fear of physical violence. If you don't have that, then you have those asshole parents at the mall trying to talk to their 5 year old brat in soft non-threatening tones while he's throwing shit all over the place and screaming.

have you ever seen that happen because i haven't

i've heard comedians complain about it

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Poots

38, and I hold three college degrees.

wow crazy and you still say stuff like

Originally Posted by Poots

Think of all the times you've been spanked/paddled/switched. You can probably remember most if not all of them and what they were for. It is extremely effective.

remarkable

are they all in science or business or something of that nature?

[Trotskilicious]

If you have to ask me what is crazy about that total generalization that has no basis in reality then I really can't help.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Poots

You're angry at the child initially then you realize that you're really angry at the parents for not controlling the situation or at least picking the kid up and leaving.

i actually remind myself that i don't have children and it's not my business

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Poots

I have a BA in History and two Masters degrees in meaningless shit.

cool me too except for the masters part i took the GRE then re-evaluated whether or not i wanted to pay to learn more about mongols when i could do it in my spare time for free

also, why do all the history sites on the internet look like they were made on geocities in 1996

[Trotskilicious]

i just want a readable history, wikipedia is so god awful it's like the worst core curriculum text book on earth

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Poots

1. hitting a dog does work to train it. Pain is the best teacher.

2. violence is a shortcut to produce the desired behavior in a child. It's not ideal and a parent should use all other ways to train a child first. But sometimes it is necessary, such as when the child tries to run into the road and you can't really explain how dangerous cars are when they are really young so when they do it again you spank their behind and the get the message. I don't believe that is child abuse.

Think of all the times you've been spanked/paddled/switched. You can probably remember most if not all of them and what they were for. It is extremely effective.

swatting a kid when they run into the road or try to touch something hot is not the same as hitting them as punishment. in that case it is not about pain but about reinforcing how important something is, and isn't punishment or anywhere near painful or hurtful. in that case it is usually a kneejerk way of keeping the kid from killing themselves. that is much different than punishing a child with physical pain because you are frustrated with them or are having problems getting through to them

and no, i don't remember anything about what i was spanked for but i do remember the fear and i do remember finally getting fed up and threatening my parent with disclosure

[Bread Regal]

Originally Posted by Poots

What is crazy about saying that physical violence or the threat of it is an effective means of behavior control? I'm not saying it's the ideal method, just an effective one.

Originally Posted by Poots

hitting a dog does work to train it. Pain is the best teacher.

how do you reconcile these two statements. or are you just talking out your ass.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Poots

38, and I hold three college degrees.

Hahaha oh my god

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

if you didnt want to be groped why do you have tits? q.e.d

original sin

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Poots

1. hitting a dog does work to train it. Pain is the best teacher.

2. violence is a shortcut to produce the desired behavior in a child. It's not ideal and a parent should use all other ways to train a child first. But sometimes it is necessary, such as when the child tries to run into the road and you can't really explain how dangerous cars are when they are really young so when they do it again you spank their behind and the get the message. I don't believe that is child abuse.

Think of all the times you've been spanked/paddled/switched. You can probably remember most if not all of them and what they were for. It is extremely effective.

you are piece of shit

[MyOneAndOnly]

there aren't any professional dog trainers that advocate striking a dog. none. because it doesn't work. it's counter productive.

i've never heard of someone stopping a child from running into traffic by slapping them

[Trotskilicious]

i know right lol

YOU ALMOST DIED, SO I WILL BEAT YOU

[D.]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

louis ck has great stff abt this, paraphrasing him but why is it okay for us to hit, sometimes with a weaon, someone so helpless so much smaller than you that should trust you completely and relies on you for protection

I think I post this any time a thread mentions corporal punishment

[D.]

Originally Posted by Poots

But even doing the intimidation thing with a dog or child is based on our primal fear of physical violence. If you don't have that, then you have those asshole parents at the mall trying to talk to their 5 year old brat in soft non-threatening tones while he's throwing shit all over the place and screaming.

Yes, it's completely black and white. Either you're a coddler or an abuser.

Yknow my kid ain't perfect but you know what we do before we take her in a store? We talk to her about how she is expected to behave. AND HOLY SHIT IT WORKS. CRAZY RIGHT?!

[MyOneAndOnly]

trying to think of a situation where a child is running toward a traffic filled road and the first and best course of action is to catch the child and hit them

[D.]

I mean I know every kid ain't the same but if V breaks away in a parking lot, my first reaction is to get a stern voice and call her back. Kids are not dumb as you think; hitting them in haste says way more about the parent than the kid.

[Eulogy]

Poots is an awful person guys. This isn't news.

[Trotskilicious]

you gotta chase that kid down and beat the shit out of it that''s what my pappy always done

[The exploding boy]

Originally Posted by Poots

Think of all the times you've been spanked/paddled/switched. You can probably remember most if not all of them and what they were for. It is extremely effective.

i never was and i turned into a fine human being.

ok maybe not but i never ran into traffic anyway. what can i say, i was so clever i never needed to be disciplined through violence i guess. to be honest i really don't remember being disciplined much at all. i remember one case of being sent to my room once... not sure i can remember another. but then again i guess you wouldn't remember soft discipline because it leaves no trauma.

also that time when i was ten and our mom took away our nintendo for a month or two. id have much preferred a spanking on that one i gotta say.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by D.

Yes, it's completely black and white. Either you're a coddler or an abuser.

Yknow my kid ain't perfect but you know what we do before we take her in a store? We talk to her about how she is expected to behave. AND HOLY SHIT IT WORKS. CRAZY RIGHT?!

I <3 you! Yes it does work.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Poots

What is crazy about saying that physical violence or the threat of it is an effective means of behavior control? I'm not saying it's the ideal method, just an effective one.

Creating fear and resentment in a child doesn't make for great child-parent relationships. You're setting the child up for emotional problems, the inability to trust people and have non abusive relationships in adulthood. A large percentage of adult children still carry resentment and want very little to do with their parents.

[Starla]

Michelle Duggar practices "blanket training".


Blanket training is a type of corporal punishment used to discipline infants and toddlers. Proponents believe that blanket training trains very young children to stay on a blanket.

Blanket training is a method adapted from the methods encouraged in To Train Up a Child, a controversial parenting book. The book teaches parents several methods of corporal punishment with instruments;[1] using instruments to inflict pain as a form of discipline is explicitly denounced by the American Academy of Pediatrics.[2] To Train Up a Child has been linked to the deaths of several children whose parents owned the book and used its methods.[3]

To blanket train a child, a caretaker places the infant or toddler on a blanket and inflicts pain on the child when he or she attempts to leave the blanket. Proponents of blanket training believe that eventually the child will stay on the blanket without adult intervention or enforcement because the child has come to associate leaving the blanket with pain.

wiki

[hnibos]

Good lord

[bignothing]

burn it all down

my parents did some of that, mostly my dad with the "pick the belt" thing. it wasn't often but it did happen. but i've always been a cry baby, and it was mostly just the psychological impact of picking the belt, then i would come back already soaking in tears and he wouldn't actually punish me. sometimes i'd bring back a tie and he wouldn't hit me either. but yeah, when he was really pissed off he did. funny how i don't remember at all why i was punished. i was super compassionate toward my sisters and would get in the way so he wouldn't hit them, and hit me instead. don't remember them doing that for me. my mom did hit me a few times, but really a lot less.

[Shallowed]

I can remember being given a single slap on the bare bottom once, I can't remember what for though.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

I can remember being given a single slap on the bare bottom once, I can't remember what for though.

As an adult or when you were a child?

[MyOneAndOnly]

The diggers are not a family. They're a cult.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

you gotta chase that kid down and beat the shit out of it that''s what my pappy always done

children generally have no business being in public. just because you need groceries isn't an excuse to invite the entire brood on a family trip to the store.

[The exploding boy]

Sometimes there's no one to look after the kids. And also..i do think it's good to bring your children out into the real world you know. Get them used to something more than just home and school. My mom took me grocery shopping a lot and i loved it and i also think it taught me a thing or two about efficient grocery shopping...

Depends what age though, of course.