online porn distorting behaviour of boys and girls

[sppunk]

Originally Posted by vixnix

Masturbating with porn to me is like if people took their iPads to the toilet with them when they took a shit so that they could watch other, total strangers, taking a shit while they took theirs, to enhance the pleasure of taking a shit

Honest question: were you sexually assaulted as a child?

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by vixnix

Of course the jury is out you dumbass. It's psychology/neuroscience for fuck's sake.

This is like when you tried to say that GMOs were good because of golden rice.

Go ride your bike with your dogs, scotty.

Srlsy, Vix? more ad hominums... which have nothing to do with the fact that the most up to date treatment of "sex addiction" isn't pretending it's an addiction.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by sppunk

Honest question: were you sexually assaulted as a child?

sppunk no, not at all.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Srlsy, Vix? more ad hominums... which have nothing to do with the fact that the most up to date treatment of "sex addiction" isn't pretending it's an addiction.

what do you mean, more?

And yeah, up to date. Good one!

[Trotskilicious]

GO RIDE YOUR BIKE DOGFAG

[Shallowed]

[The exploding boy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

lol you are pretty warped, monkeys maaturbate, dogs lick their junk, its completely natural

Her problem is refusing the notion that we are indeed animals. Like she said before that it was animalistic. Yes. This is still what we are and have always been.

And vix the whole thing about having shamed your husband enough about masturbation after catching him a few times that he doesn't do it anymore (which you didn't mention here but before), trust me, he still jerks off. He just became better at hiding it from you. I certainly hope he does anyway because i doubt he's having a satisfying sex life as it is so the other likely scenario otherwise is him fucking someone else. If it hasn't happened yet, it's coming within another 5 years most likely. That sexual energy has to be released somewhere, and if its not in his hand or in you then it'll be in someone else.

Masturbation is part of an healthy sexual life. In fact probably the cornerstone. This is where sexual life begins. Do you seriously think your sons should not get sexual release until they have a gf/bf? (which in their case i would hazard will probably take a while) I hope you're ready to look down on your kids as being wild godless animals when they're teens cause you're likely to find your share of dirty socks or bed covers. You might even happen to walk in on them (it may still happen now too, i started i was about 6). Dear God spare vix's children this unspeakable humiliation and the unimaginable shaming it would lead to if you love them at all.

I have been away from M for 6 months. If i didn't masturbate i don't know what i would do with the pent up sexual energy. It's not a matter of being a sex crazed pervert who can't think of anything better to do with his time, it just so happens the adult body is wired to expect sexual gratification. They call it libido. It will seek it and fighting or ignoring it can only lead to a deteriorating mental health (i already have plenty of that without trying to add to it). Personally in our situation if i forbid her to masturbate and she somehow god fucking knows why agreed to that, i'd hope she'd at least have enough self-esteem left to go out and find someone to have loveless sex with. And if there is ever a serious draught of sex in your relationship, and your husband somehow isn't jerking off (right...), I hope he'll also have enough self esteem left to lovelessly fuck someone else.

[reprise85]

vixnix is your problem with masturbation or pornography or both? or only masturbating to pornography?

[buzzard]

Originally Posted by vixnix

And people who think masturbating to porn is gross but regularly connect sexually in a loving and monogamous relationship are actually pretty sex positive.

Given that you know, they have actual sex quite a lot. Enough that they don't have to meet their needs with masturbating and porn.

Haven't you fairly repeatedly complained about unwanted sexual advances on the part of your partner, though?

On top of effectively banning him from the voluntary consumption of pornographic material, you have also freely admitted to what can only be described as a chronic reluctance to engage in the very variety of sex that you have just described in the above. Where does that leave your husband, exactly, as far as it regards the satisfying of his own sexual desires as an adult?

[vixnix]

Yeah ok lets be like animals and kill babies to force the mother into heat again.

Or let's encourage men to engage in physical battles to secure the right to mate first with the harem.

Of course we're animals, dumbass. I know that. Just because we're animals doesn't mean we have to sit around accepting the more brutish aspects of our nature and do nothing about trying to transcend them at all.

You wanna waste your life gratifying your sexual urges alone watching people who wouldn't give you the time of day IRL having sex with each other, go ahead. I think it's a gross way to spend your spare time.

Of course I'm not saying this shit to my kids, what are you, retarded? That's why I'm here saying it to all you pornophile bators.

Having said that, if they turn into the kinds of teenagers that spend all day indoors in their rooms, rather than being at band rehearsal or cricket training or whatever, then yeah I probably won't be able to help myself. That shit is just...no. Not under my roof.

Get out and get a job and some friends for fuck's sake.

[The exploding boy]

Sorry i can't hear you over the faps of my furious masturbating.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by buzzard

Haven't you fairly repeatedly complained about unwanted sexual advances on the part of your partner, though?

On top of effectively banning him from the voluntary consumption of pornographic material, you have also freely admitted to what can only be described as a chronic reluctance to engage in the very variety of sex that you have just described in the above. Where does that leave your husband, exactly, as far as it regards the satisfying of his own sexual desires as an adult?

He has had to learn that me being in the mood for sex has far more with him doing the dishes I'm too tired to do, and pitching in with homework and soccer training....than how he presents the actual proposition of sex.

You know...he's had to learn that human relationships are about feeling empathy for each other and wanting to meet other people's needs. And that if I don't feel my kids have been adequately provided for in the last 24hr period (simple stuff, like having school uniforms ready in the morning, having a clean and tidy house to live in, having a nutritious and enjoyable diet, feeling like we are part of our geographical community because we engage regularly with other families with playdates, etc., getting adequate instruction in the areas of learning that I feel are important - music, swimming, sport, foreign languages), I won't be feeling much like giving him a blow job just because he tells me he's hot for it and I look so good tonight and would I like a glass of wine.

What a fucken shame for this guy, huh. You're right, he's miserable. He'll probably have an affair or shoot himself in the head. Being a contributing member of a healthy and relatively happy family and having two sons that adore him and are healthy and well educated is just a total fucking burden for this guy. Not getting more blow jobs is a total deal breaker.

And in return I have had to learn that there are days when all that shit hasn't been done to my satisfaction and I am frustrated and insecure and wanting to be left alone...but actually he can't help to a certain extent, the amount of sexual gratification he needs. And in the end, the fact that he pursues me even on those days, when I tell him to fuck off, and won't let up until we have sex, because he refuses to gratify himself with his hand and his phone...that means that in the end I give in to him, feeling sick and resentful, but most times...MOST TIMES I feel better afterwards. Because we're more connected somehow, I can't explain it. But the worries I had, don't bother me as much. I don't feel so alone. It keeps us connected.

It's called marriage and children, kids. Don't try this at home.

[The exploding boy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

You wanna waste your life gratifying your sexual urges alone watching people who wouldn't give you the time of day IRL having sex with each other, go ahead. I think it's a gross way to spend your spare time.

Hey now i'm pretty sure some of these girls might at least give me the time of day. Maybe even a fuck. You clearly misjudge my considerable sexual appeal.

Why do you immediately connect masturbating to porn anyway? I mena sure i do that in fair amount but you know theres also a fair number of times i have masturbated to only the thoughts in my head. Hell i've had orgasms without even touching myself. Is that animalistic to only use the power of my mind to get myself to climax?

What if i masturbate to the thought/pictures of of my partner? Cause that happens too. Is this less objectionable? Or is it still vile?

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by reprise85

vixnix is your problem with masturbation or pornography or both? or only masturbating to pornography?

I don't have a problem with other people doing it I just think it's gross to be so attached to masturbating with porn, that you are opposed to restricting access to porn, to 18+ subscription websites with verified users.

The fact that I think it's gross to bate to porn is neither here nor there. I think it's gross to eat steak tartare but I if people want to do it then it isn't my place to stop them.

[The exploding boy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

It's called marriage and children, kids. Don't try this at home.

If there was ever a cautionary tale against it, you're the prime example.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

Hey now i'm pretty sure some of these girls might at least give me the time of day. Maybe even a fuck. You clearly misjudge my considerable sexual appeal.

Why do you immediately connect masturbating to porn anyway? I mena sure i do that in fair amount but you know theres also a fair number of times i have masturbated to only the thoughts in my head. Hell i've had orgasms without even touching myself. Is that animalistic to only use the power of my mind to get myself to climax?

What if i masturbate to the thought/pictures of of my partner? Cause that happens too. Is this less objectionable? Or is it still vile?

I only think that porn is gross. But I figure that's why it exists, for sexual gratification.

Masturbation, yeah I mean who hasn't or doesn't masturbate, that's like eating.

But as I said, creating an event out of it is kinda gross, where it involves looking at other people that you've never met, having sex. It kinda is like looking at someone taking a shit while you take a shit yourself. Is it necessary? No. Is it kinda gross? IMO yes

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

If there was ever a cautionary tale against it, you're the prime example.

Does that make you the cautionary tale against living alone with no job for close to a decade, lest it leaves you cripplingly anxious with erectile dysfunction, asking other people via online chat, for pizza money?

when I was an admin and deleted all my posts in 2004 I really should have just walked away then
It's too late for me now

[Trotskilicious]

yep

[The exploding boy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

Does that make you the cautionary tale against living alone with no job for close to a decade, lest it leaves you cripplingly anxious with erectile dysfunction, asking other people via online chat, for pizza money?

Yes it very much does.


And it's 13 years jobless actually.

[vixnix]

I'm kinda changing tactics here

I've been mocked for being a dumbass Christian boring prudish uptight judgmental crazy bitch for so long...and I've tried to be gracious about much of the shit that people say to me. You guys probably don't believe that but it's true.

But you know. I'm fucking over that. You want to be a malicious shitstain to me with the stuff you say to me, go ahead. I have a few things I've been meaning to say to you, myself.

Gnomic "you".

[reprise85]

can we make a thread for vixnix's honest and cruel no-holds-barred thoughts about boarders

[vixnix]

why wouldn't it blend in with the original thread the way that everyone else's honest and cruel no-punches-barred thoughts about vixnix do...

It wouldn't be fair to give me special treatment

[Eulogy]

Why do you equate orgasms with taking a shit

[Sonic Johnny]

Y'know I think you're reading it as people saying that children should have access to porn when in fact what they're saying is closer to "do you have any serious suggestion on how it is possible to restrict someone (anyone!) from accessing online content in this day and age?"

[Eulogy]

Like that seems.. Telling.

[Eulogy]

Oh and I made the thread btw

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by vixnix

Having said that, if they turn into the kinds of teenagers that spend all day indoors in their rooms, rather than being at band rehearsal or cricket training or whatever, then yeah I probably won't be able to help myself. That shit is just...no. Not under my roof.

Yep, teenagers that go to band rehearsal or cricket training definitely don't masturbate or look at porn. You just don't see it happening.

[vixnix]

Yeah it's more the not doing anything but sitting in front of a computer that I have a problem with, not the expected and normal experiences of adolescence.

We know kids like that already, they come over to play and can't stop talking about tv or computers and can they play a game or watch a programme....like they don't know how to do anything else. Unfortunate, really. Just lazy selfish parents who shirk their duty to teach their own children how to be resourceful and creative and never model it with their own behaviour.

Basically it's this generation of exploited workers raising the exploited workers of the future.

[Eulogy]

You can't even bring yourself to teach your kids about nuances of sex. Perhaps you shouldn't judge.