online porn distorting behaviour of boys and girls

[Eulogy]

The restrictions exist

But guess what

People under 21 (or 18) also drink and smoke

Imagine that

[MyOneAndOnly]

it's like saying that i'm addicted to scales or losing weight because of the evils of the fashion industry or the people who sell scales.

I have low self of steam and OCD because of unlucky brain chemistry and because people abused me. Not because of skinny models or hollywood or whatever the fuck

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

You're not sex positive if you only approve of your own sex life and others like it.

The whole idea is stupid and artificial.

Is some ethics and psychology committee gonna sit down and decide for us who can and can't be sex positive

Such an unhelpful and useless concept

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

The restrictions exist

But guess what

People under 21 (or 18) also drink and smoke

Imagine that

So you're saying they're so unhelpful we shouldn't have them?

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

The whole idea is stupid and artificial.

Is some ethics and psychology committee gonna sit down and decide for us who can and can't be sex positive

Such an unhelpful and useless concept

You're shaming people about their sexual lives. It's not useless to identify that as a problem.

[Mooney]

i think the world would be a better place if vixnix's children could only masturbate to porn instead of reading the bible. but i'm not going to make a thread about it.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

it's like saying that i'm addicted to scales or losing weight because of the evils of the fashion industry or the people who sell scales.

I have low self of steam and OCD because of unlucky brain chemistry and because people abused me. Not because of skinny models or hollywood or whatever the fuck

That's a simplistic summary of the situation. It's a bit of everything.

[Sonic Johnny]

HEALTHY SEXUAL ACTIVITY DOES NOT BEGIN AND END IN COUPLING/INTERCOURSE YOU TWIT. AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT LIMITED TO MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIPS.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

So you're saying they're so unhelpful we shouldn't have them?

I'm saying that you can't shelter your fucking kids from everything forever. So you need to educate them (as do schools obviously. Parents and schools need to do this, but vixnix is a parent bitching about having to teach her kids, not a teacher).

[Sonic Johnny]

could you be any more narrow minded

edit not @euls

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

You're shaming people about their sexual lives. It's not useless to identify that as a problem.

I'm not doing anything but sharing my emotional reaction to masturbating and watching porn.

If people feel ashamed because of an emotional reaction I have, that's their issue, not mine. I can't change how comfortable a person is with their sexual choices and I'm not instructing anybody to change what they're doing because of how I feel.

[Shallowed]

Where do parents get off on teaching their children when they're not teachers?

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

I'm not doing anything but sharing my emotional reaction to masturbating and watching porn.

If people feel ashamed because of an emotional reaction I have, that's their issue, not mine. I can't change how comfortable a person is with their sexual choices and I'm not instructing anybody to change what they're doing because of how I feel.

You're trying to shame people. No one is ashamed.

[Eulogy]

Are you this obtuse on purpose

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by vixnix

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction

Jury's out...but the fact is that readily available porn is problematic for adolescents the same way that readily available alcohol, tobacco, and gambling is problematic.

We have placed restrictions on everything else - why not porn?

the jury isn't out.

it's not an addiction.

and that's a completely different issue anyway from boys raping girls. men raped women before internet porn. and the ease of access to porn doesn't correlate to an increase in assaults. in fact, if anything sexual abuse is less prevelant in western nations tnan it was decades ago

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

could you be any more narrow minded

I didn't say that. I said I could be sex positive AND think that masturbating and watching porn is a basic and vulgar waste of human life

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

I didn't say that. I said I could be sex positive AND think that masturbating and watching porn is a basic and vulgar waste of human life

But, you can't be. Maybe you're misunderstanding the term.

[Trotskilicious]

vixnix is better than us for sticking with a person she barely even likes who feels shes obligated to fuck him

thats HEALTHY
thats NORMAL

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

You're trying to shame people. No one is ashamed.

No I'm not. I'm just expressing how I feel about something. I don't give a flying fuck about how that makes other people feel, given that expressing how you feel without regard for others is the netphorian MO.

There is no other purpose to my sharing other than being clear about how I feel. I don't give a crap what you pornmongering 'bators do with your spare time. That would be a complete waste of time and energy for me

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by vixnix

I didn't say that. I said I could be sex positive AND think that masturbating and watching porn is a basic and vulgar waste of human life

So you're sex positive but only as far as people who have partners? and people who haven't got a partner can just repress all that sexual arousal because the thought of them relieving it, which they do in private, makes you feel uncomfortable?

you're the same as belte in this thread vix for real.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

No I'm not. I'm just expressing how I feel about something. I don't give a flying fuck about how that makes other people feel, given that expressing how you feel without regard for others is the netphorian MO.

There is no other purpose to my sharing other than being clear about how I feel. I don't give a crap what you pornmongering 'bators do with your spare time. That would be a complete waste of time and energy for me

This whole thread has been about you giving a shit

[MyOneAndOnly]

i can't wait to hear how vix thinks suicide and satanism are caused by heavy metal music

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

vixnix is better than us for sticking with a person she barely even likes who feels shes obligated to fuck him

thats HEALTHY
thats NORMAL

It is, actually.

Marriages that are not sexual often break up. And being sexually involved with a person is often hard for mothers of young children. It isn't something that is talked about publicly and often but it's more common that most people realise.

A healthy marriage, for two people in their 30s, with kids, usually includes sex. And often you have to try to be interested.

I don't expect anyone here to understand that because it isn't your journey. But try not to be an insensitive jerk when you read what I've written.

You know, just how all of you tell me to try not to be an insensitive jerk.

[MyOneAndOnly]

in all seriousness ad hominums have nothing to do with the validity or lack thereof of Vix's arguments

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

So you're sex positive but only as far as people who have partners? and people who haven't got a partner can just repress all that sexual arousal because the thought of them relieving it, which they do in private, makes you feel uncomfortable?

you're the same as belte in this thread vix for real.

No, I never said that.

I don't think masturbating is bad. I think it's like shitting or eating, it's just what humans do. But yeah, making an event of it, and cuing up some visual stimulation to enhance the experience...if it includes watching total strangers have sex with each other..yeah I think that's gross.

If you wanna do it, I could not give less of a shit. I don't think it's bad or immoral or should be illegal. It doesn't make me feel uncomfortable. It makes me feel the same way as I would if I thought about someone taking a shit. Not something I really wanna think about but nothing inherently bad about it even if it is gross.

None of that has anything to do with how I feel about restricting the availability of porn to 18+ verified users online.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

the jury isn't out.

it's not an addiction.

and that's a completely different issue anyway from boys raping girls. men raped women before internet porn. and the ease of access to porn doesn't correlate to an increase in assaults. in fact, if anything sexual abuse is less prevelant in western nations tnan it was decades ago

Of course the jury is out you dumbass. It's psychology/neuroscience for fuck's sake.

This is like when you tried to say that GMOs were good because of golden rice.

Go ride your bike with your dogs, scotty.

[Trotskilicious]

OH SNAP

[vixnix]

Masturbating with porn to me is like if people took their iPads to the toilet with them when they took a shit so that they could watch other, total strangers, taking a shit while they took theirs, to enhance the pleasure of taking a shit

[vixnix]

I dunno if all you porn 'bators already do that or not, but yeah if you do, I think that's gross as well

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by vixnix

Masturbating with porn to me is like if people took their iPads to the toilet with them when they took a shit so that they could watch other, total strangers, taking a shit while they took theirs, to enhance the pleasure of taking a shit

What in the everliving fuck