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Old 04-30-2015, 01:59 PM   #91
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If we just ruled that straight men can't watch porn I bet things would be a lot better

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:59 PM   #92
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Not throwin all y'all under the bus but

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 02:15 PM   #93
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Is lesbian porn considered straight porn?

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:42 PM   #94
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Anyone else observing things here should note the ugly irony of eulogy bashing jczeroman for opposing net neutrality but frothing at the mouth when suggested that the sex industry should also be regulated.
yes, especially using the tried and true right wing copout to blame the parents and move on

if you dont think unprecidatef access to all the porn in the world doesnt warp sexuality and is overall a bad thing esp for children yr lying to yourself

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:43 PM   #95
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While it is absolutely a parent's duty to teach their kids right from wrong, parents also have a right to expect their children not be harmed from others who weren't taught right from wrong. That is where society steps in and why parental education can only go so far. Restricting access to porn should be an urgent priority among politicians, internet providers, and companies like google whose search engines are a portal to these things.
but free speech!

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Old 04-30-2015, 04:45 PM   #96
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It wouldn't warp people if we resolved to educate ourselves and our children. I don't mean just parents (the access part has to fall to them to some extent though). I mean parents, educators, members of society in general.

And please explain to me how I think the sex industry should be unregulated? I don't think that at all.

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:45 PM   #97
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eulogy where do you get off being an expert on parenting?

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:46 PM   #98
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Yeah, I agree with Disco King on pretty much everything they wrote on that longish post.

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:47 PM   #99
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I also think it's a lazy cop out to blame sexual coercion of girls by boys on porn. It's the entire fucking culture that gives men a sense of entitlement. Does some porn contribute to that? I suppose that's possibly true.

But it would still happen without porn.

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:48 PM   #100
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eulogy where do you get off being an expert on parenting?
Oh look it's the "you don't have kids" argument again

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:49 PM   #101
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in this case its a valid point

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:50 PM   #102
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what if i took it upon myself to give relationship advice

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:52 PM   #103
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I'm saying teach your kids about sex and consent and ******* the fact that porn exists and isn't realistic and shouldn't be replicated when your kids are physically capable of the acts involved and that makes me some kind of monster?

And I've heard and read several experts say these things. Amy Lang is one of them.

What about the above is wrong?

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:53 PM   #104
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what if i took it upon myself to give relationship advice
I would refrain from using ad hominems to discredit valid points

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:53 PM   #105
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Weren't you just talking about how a lot of parents are awful? But they're more qualified because they managed to procreate? Because that is so hard to do?

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:11 PM   #106
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porn was readily available on the internet when i was 13 yet this didn't seem to be a problem

that can pretty much factor out the accused content, if nothing else, right?

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:12 PM   #107
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@eulogy yes, but my point there is about how parents arent soley responsible for raising children. our communities, schools, and culture play a significant part

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:13 PM   #108
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a new generation of parents that were more familiar and therefore comfortable with the internet/various other things that probably came into contact with them right after the "super impressionable" ages so they are a little less apprehensive with their kids about it. the internet was regulated at school, at home it was a simple case of not wanting yer parents to see what you were looking at

is the new generation of parents just more comfortable with the internet and therefore less likely to oversee in any way what the kids are looking up or something?

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:18 PM   #109
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New studies have revealed that regular anal sex has the capacity to "blast out" rectal cancers.
Are your other posts this nutty?

 
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Or maybe it's a lack of sex education.

Just a thought!!
Yeah, this. People should know the proper way to go about it if they're so inclined.

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:24 PM   #111
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Are your other posts this nutty?
what is so "nutty" about that

wasn't masturbation alleged to battle or prevent prostate cancer as well? doesn't seem that "out there" even if it's not true

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:27 PM   #112
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lots of things are said to prevent or cure cancer but its usually bullshit. the word masturbation doesnt even appear in the acs info on prostate cancer

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:29 PM   #113
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@eulogy yes, but my point there is about how parents arent soley responsible for raising children. our communities, schools, and culture play a significant part
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It wouldn't warp people if we resolved to educate ourselves and our children. I don't mean just parents (the access part has to fall to them to some extent though). I mean parents, educators, members of society in general.

And please explain to me how I think the sex industry should be unregulated? I don't think that at all.
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:44 PM   #114
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There's a massive gap between parents in my generation and what we would think of, to tell our children about - and the porn that is out there.

I don't know any mother who would think to explain to her son that a young girl's rectal passage might be injured by dogging so here are the steps to do it safely, etc. It just isn't on anybody's radar - because until now, humans in general have not encountered that kind of viewing until later on in life.

Now, dogging videos could be among their first experiences with sex.

And yeah, you can restrict net access and not buy your kids devices. It's what I do. And I continue to read up on this kind of stuff exactly because my boys are 9 and 6 and I want to be ready to help them.

But you get called a fanny-pack parent, just like I do here. An overbearing, controlling, helicopter mom with attachment issues.

You can't really win. And even if you do the right thing, you can't control other parents' choices. most of this is happening because schools now encourage kids to bring their own devices, and allow them to use their devices at lunch time. If they're not glued to some bullshit like clash of clans or instagram, then what else is it reasonable to expect them to be doing, as teenagers? Whether I give my kid a device or not, he's going to see it.

Or do I clamp down even further, and home school, or send him to an anti-technology Steiner school, or something?

 
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I also think it's a lazy cop out to blame sexual coercion of girls by boys on porn. It's the entire fucking culture that gives men a sense of entitlement. Does some porn contribute to that? I suppose that's possibly true.

But it would still happen without porn.
This. Sheltering children form technology is not the solution. Every adolescent who watches porn is not going to feel compelled to violently fuck someone in the ass. It's the frat boys and the future frat boys raised by former frat boys, without compassion or regard for their partners who think it's totally fine or even admirable to cause physical pain to their partner thereby establishing dominance over the person whom they perceive as their property, as some form of conquest which is applauded by society, just another amassing wealth and prestige, also inherited by the parents but by observation and emulation

 
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And of course there are the brainwashed christian girls (think sheltered, gated suburbia) who think Jesus won't know if they get fucked in the ass but that they're going to hell and their status as a human being is forever tarnished if they have traditional sex, even if it's loving and there's a mutual respect, and so they take it from their sociopathic "boyfriends" because that's the only way they can feel sexually validated or valuable. And because they never had sex ed, they think it's supposed to be painful, like the crucifixion.

So the problem like Eulogy said is lack of education and the general attitudes about sex inherent to the culture

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:02 PM   #117
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only childrren can be fannypackers, the archetype being robin arryn

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:06 PM   #118
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Yes I completely agree...a fannypack parent is a parent who raises a fannypacker.

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:29 PM   #119
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Petition to censor the word "dogging"

 
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Old 04-30-2015, 06:41 PM   #120
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There's a massive gap between parents in my generation and what we would think of, to tell our children about - and the porn that is out there.

I don't know any mother who would think to explain to her son that a young girl's rectal passage might be injured by dogging so here are the steps to do it safely, etc. It just isn't on anybody's radar - because until now, humans in general have not encountered that kind of viewing until later on in life.

Now, dogging videos could be among their first experiences with sex.

And yeah, you can restrict net access and not buy your kids devices. It's what I do. And I continue to read up on this kind of stuff exactly because my boys are 9 and 6 and I want to be ready to help them.

But you get called a fanny-pack parent, just like I do here. An overbearing, controlling, helicopter mom with attachment issues.

You can't really win. And even if you do the right thing, you can't control other parents' choices. most of this is happening because schools now encourage kids to bring their own devices, and allow them to use their devices at lunch time. If they're not glued to some bullshit like clash of clans or instagram, then what else is it reasonable to expect them to be doing, as teenagers? Whether I give my kid a device or not, he's going to see it.

Or do I clamp down even further, and home school, or send him to an anti-technology Steiner school, or something?
You teach them the things your mum friends wouldn't think to teach. Like, now you know. So make sure they have the right tools

 
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