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Old 04-20-2015, 08:55 AM   #31
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Aussie bogans are traditionally full-blown skips that likely inherited their scum genes from convict forefathers. Have times changed so much that an accurate example photograph could truly allow for the inclusion of a Maltese-Aboriginal, a Turk, a Pacific Islander, and a Maori?

Why does the word seem to trigger some sort of automated forum censorship?
Yeah nah, you're absolutely right. That image is of a bunch of housos and they're not the same as bogans, at all. I just wanted to post a Housos picture.

But Shazza's pretty bogan:



Does it? It's funny, I think it's an old joke that nobody has bothered to fix. It's not the only word...they crop up all the time - can't remember the other ones!

 
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:57 AM   #32
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didn't your mama teach your ass some manners?
My mama taught my ass to fear the day her hand pick up a rubber jandal, whether or not that resulted in me having manners is probably up for debate. But if I know she is around, I will look like I have manners, that's for sure. Temporarily, anyway.

 
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:03 AM   #33
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I was a huge fan of Pizza when it first aired. Is Housos any good?

 
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:19 AM   #34
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It has moments of being sublime...in amongst some failure...

Swift and shift is actually my favourite..

 
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:49 AM   #35
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My mama taught my ass to fear the day her hand pick up a rubber jandal, whether or not that resulted in me having manners is probably up for debate. But if I know she is around, I will look like I have manners, that's for sure. Temporarily, anyway.
that sucks, i'm sorry :/

edit: i hope you realize my original post wasn't addressing you btw

 
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:50 AM   #36
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Why does the word seem to trigger some sort of automated forum censorship?
because you touch yourself at night.

 
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What the fuck even happened in this thread. Did mayfuck have a stroke? Is he ok? I feel like he mighta had a stroke.

 
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:20 AM   #38
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shut up, you bogan redneck.

 
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:45 PM   #39
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what do you think the world will be like in 100 years?

if you are still around then, what do you think you will be like?

 
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oooohhh ok. yeah he is a bogan, I didn't realise
he was being ironic there

 
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Old 04-21-2015, 04:18 PM   #41
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What the fuck even happened in this thread. Did mayfuck have a stroke? Is he ok? I feel like he mighta had a stroke.
He just bein' mayfuck. Cmon no one is safe here, you should know that by now

 
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:06 PM   #42
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what do you think the world will be like in 100 years?

if you are still around then, what do you think you will be like?
These are such interesting questions.

I suppose one of the biggest differences will be transport - at the moment those of us in the developed world enjoy an extraordinary amount of travel, and I don't think that is sustainable. Transport will be affected by the peak oil situation I reckon. So we'll travel a lot less, both at a daily level in terms of commuting to work - we'll start to live closer again. We'll also take fewer trips away from home, for leisure. Transport changes will have flow on effects into many industries but the most noticeable effect for the average person I think, will be a rise in living costs, across the board. Many foods we currently see as staples will probably go back to being luxuries. I'm hoping people will go back to growing their own vegetables and keeping chickens. Hopefully there will be a shift back to more robust technology, machines that don't need updating every 2 years. The cost of appliances will go back to being something that makes it a serious investment that people expect to last at least 10 years.

Geopolitically, I wonder if the problems caused by centralised authority and the anonymity of living in larger cities, will cause us to move in the opposite direction - decentralise government with more local legislature & executive. I think the Swiss canton system with regular referendums might be adopted by more countries. We'll still need government at a federal level to moderate each smaller government and I don't think we will be able to avoid the problems that accompany that - corruption, loss of direction, lack of empathy with those affected by the law. I think the basic strata that exist now are stable, education levels don't seem to be changing much. India and China may return to a more decentralised system of government. I don't know much about what is happening at the grass roots level, there, but I can't see any serious changes happening. The poor will continue to suffer and die, and the middle and upper classes will continue to enjoy a reasonable standard of living, and continue to emigrate.

Biologically I think we will continue to see a loss of biodiversity in the next 100 years. We'll see a loss of species in the wild. I'm pretty sure that the rainforest will regenerate, but too slowly to help many species. The a lot of the cleared land will not be profitable without cheap petrochemicals, so when those become too expensive, I think a lot of land will be left to regrow.

Human eugenics and gene therapy may continue - and might give rise to a new subspecies of enhanced humans. My guess is that this research depends on how resilient the richest 20% are. If humans take a hit across the board, research like the new genetics may fall by the wayside as we research fuel and energy options again.

I could go on for ages but I when I think about it, the last 100 years have seen such a radical departure from the way of life that humans are accustomed to, because of the fossil oil boom....I think the next 100 years will see a return to pre-oil living, in a lot of ways?

If I'm still around in 100 years I think I'll have a few descendants by then, and a handful of friends who remember the joys and excesses of living during the oil boom. We'll be answering to younger generations, defending ourselves for the decisions we made to live within the system and not make any effort to raise awareness of what we were doing to the planet. We'll also be pretty frail at that age, and pretty tired. I think we'll be ready for death and feel like we've had a good innings.

I hope that I will be in a different stage of life, where instead of caring for human beings every day, I'll have more free time to sit and rest, and have more of an encouraging and reassuring role for my descendants. I will have lived through a lot of suffering and death with that many years under my belt.

My grandfather is 97 and on his birthday he received many birthday wishes on his Facebook page. He responded with this message:

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so I hope I will be in sound mind and health to give messages like that.

 
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:24 PM   #43
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No hope for renewable energy?

 
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I think renewable energy is essential - it's all we've got, long term. But it's a lot more expensive.

I know that in NZ we easily paid $500/month for electricity in winter, as a family - for heating, washing & drying, etc. - about 80% of NZ electricity is from renewables.

Here in Aus, power has been so much cheaper that up until now, we have been billed quarterly - and it was a similar bill to our monthly one, in NZ. Power costs are rising here though.

Even with the higher cost, the true cost of renewable energy is currently offset by fossil fuel. So the production of solar panels, windmills & batteries is still often fuelled by fossil oils, and the costs of servicing those renewables are offset by cheap fossil fuels.

So energy generated by renewable resources will exist, but will not be anywhere near as abundant and cheap as energy is now (though that is already changing).

 
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My avatar is supposed to be a GIF, but it isn't really GIFfy. I mean, it's not moving, even though it's supposed to move.

Why, Vixnix? Why isn't my avatar moving? Your avatar gets to move. It's not fair.

 
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:57 AM   #46
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I think renewable energy is essential - it's all we've got, long term. But it's a lot more expensive.

I know that in NZ we easily paid $500/month for electricity in winter, as a family - for heating, washing & drying, etc. - about 80% of NZ electricity is from renewables.
Holy shit. The highest winter bill I have ever had in my entire life is around $200.00, and I thought that was really bad.

 
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My mama taught my ass to fear the day her hand pick up a rubber jandal, whether or not that resulted in me having manners is probably up for debate. But if I know she is around, I will look like I have manners, that's for sure. Temporarily, anyway.
Sorry to hear that.

 
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Old 04-22-2015, 10:05 AM   #48
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Holy shit. The highest winter bill I have ever had in my entire life is around $200.00, and I thought that was really bad.
Yeah and that's not the worst of it, we had $700/month bills when we weren't being careful!! It's partly because we didn't have an efficient heating method - we were renting and the house was poorly insulated and we were using electric space heaters. So there are lots of ways to use less electricity as prices rise!

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My avatar is supposed to be a GIF, but it isn't really GIFfy. I mean, it's not moving, even though it's supposed to move.

Why, Vixnix? Why isn't my avatar moving? Your avatar gets to move. It's not fair.
unfortunately, another boarder made this for me, so I can't answer your question so sorry

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Sorry to hear that.
oh nahhh it wasn't all bad. She did use physical discipline and I was terrified of disappointing or disobeying her as a child, but I totally loved her and knew I was loved. She said over and over to us

"I don't care what you do. I don't care if you kill people, I don't care. You still my kids. You always be my kids."

But then if I said something rude to someone and she overheard me, I'd feel her eyes on me and I knew her hand wouldn't be far behind!! She would wait until nobody was looking and then whack me with an open hand and swear at me in Samoan, and then look in my eyes with a steely stare and say "Don't speak that way, to people." Stuff like that.

But oh man, if someone was rude to us...holy moly. She was scary because she wasn't a one-off kind of person. If you displeased her, she would become part of your life and just be all up in your face. My mum is pretty awesome, I love her. She didn't do us any harm by hitting us with jandals. Not really.

 
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Yeah... I'm totally against physical abuse. :/ I love my parents as well, but some of it has always been clouded by their parenting "skills". They were both products of a generation that encouraged spanking/hitting, and never saw a problem with it. I know that I was loved, but being terrified of your parents at times was awful for me. I never could equate the physical abuse with being loved and resented them for it for a long time. It's better now because we had some discussions about it.... and she eventually admitted that she was wrong. My sister will not go home... and does not want to see our mom because she got the worst of it growing up.

 
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I think I would be incredibly devastated if I had done anything to A in her childhood that would cause her to not want to see me as an adult. She's so incredibly precious to me... it would just kill me... sorry to hijack your thread.

 
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No, not at all...there are a hundred things I would advise a parent to do, before picking up a sandal...but my mum was part of her generation and parented without guide books and google...she make a lot of mistakes but she did try her best.

She told me that, about 5 years ago. We were sitting in my brother's room, and she was crying, and I was angry. And she said "I know we did so many wrong things but we were trying our best" and in that moment I knew she wasn't lying...we're all so broken, and I know I will fail my kids. But I think it makes a world of difference to know that parents have regrets and made mistakes while trying to do their best. I can forgive a lot, if that's the case...

 
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My mom had one of those moments as well, prefaced by a blow up... when she suggested that I should spank A. She was only 3yo at the time... just being a 3 yo, and I was accused of not being a good parent by not doing the things she did with me. The mama bear came out of me and I lit into my mom like never before.

 
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My mom grew up in a devout/strict Catholic family where her father used the belt for everything... so as an adult I can understand where it came from. I don't hate her... and I forgive her... but there's a small part of me that will always remember it. I was really scared of my parents. My sister still wants nothing to do with my mom. She would not come to our dad's funeral.

 
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i seem to come from a long line of mothers who regret spanking...my mum's mum told her children they shouldn't spank their kids, after whacking the living daylights out of them (my own mother was hit if she fell asleep late at night while finishing her homework - her father was the teacher in Samoa and he was determined that she would be the star pupil. She was also hit if she didn't get top marks). And my mum hit us, but she would never ever hit my kids or tell me to hit them. She's a big softie, now.

My kids just spent 5 nights with my parents and came back so happy...it was 5 days and nights of unlimited cable tv, board & card games, outings and restaurant meals, and sugary treats.

 
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My dad would make me go get the belt that he would spank me with. Fun times

 
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Our Mums sound so similar - my maternal grandfather was a church minister who also taught mathematics at the high school. So it was a very strict and religious upbringing, which my mum almost completely rejected.

I wasn't terrified of my mum, because although she disciplined physically, she wasn't abusive if that makes sense. I was afraid of being punished when I had been disobedient or naughty or cheeky. But if I had done nothing wrong, I wasn't afraid at all.

My Dad is a different story. He is from a strict religious upbringing as well, and rejected it. But he was more deeply wounded - he lost his mother as a young child and was raised by a lovely but emotionally distant stepmother. He is still really hurt though he's a lot better now. But we didn't have to do anything wrong to be punished by him. He could just be having a bad day. And he often was. So actually I am still afraid of him. but I forgive him, too. He has tried really hard in so many ways to overcome his childhood and be a good dad, even though he did fail in a few very important ways.

 
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we never had to do this. My mum would get the sandal herself (or wooden spoon), and my Dad didn't use objects.

I think my Dad had to do this, with his own Dad though. I know he was belted. And caned at school.

 
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my dad hit me up to a point where i threatened him with police and then he stopped
other abuse i dont really want to talk about but you can imagine

my mom was very disconnected from the whole family in general. later on she became more physically/emotionally abusive until i left home the month after i turned 15

now i dont talk to my dad, maybe 2 times a year. my mom i talk to every other month or so.

 
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i once ate 7 but i party

 
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we never had to do this. My mum would get the sandal herself (or wooden spoon), and my Dad didn't use objects.

I think my Dad had to do this, with his own Dad though. I know he was belted. And caned at school.
My grandma would put my mom and her siblings in a tub together (with water) at the end of the day and then hit them with a wooden spoon to take out her frustrations

I just wanted to share and get it off my chest

 
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