Free public transport

[Elphenor]

True! Military men work year round and you don't see them complaining!

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by hnibos

Listen, his hard work has gotten him barely above the poverty line, people just need to step up that's all

well that's funny because i'm also above the poverty line but i didn't really work very hard to get here

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Teachers make shit money because they're worthless, I mean, anyone can be a teacher otherwise they would make more money

teachers make like 40 or 50k a year teaching people how to fill out a scantron

they can eat shit tbh, why are we still giving teachers a free pass for all of our retarded kids and terrible education system

[Trotskilicious]

we all went to school, we should already know about 10% of the teachers we've had in our lives were worth a fuck

it's not the pay that's keeping people away from teaching

[Shallowed]

You guys it's not the teachers who want to teach kids that shit, lord knows most of them would have it differently

[hnibos]

I don't know, most of my teachers did not give two shits about being there. It almost seems like the younger I was the less they gave a shit too. Like, those were my most formative years, teachers that threw a book at me and told me to do the questions on page 48 and stop fucking talking

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

You guys it's not the teachers who want to teach kids that shit, lord knows most of them would have it differently

nah about half of them if not more are completely all about standardized testing

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by hnibos

I don't know, most of my teachers did not give two shits about being there. It almost seems like the younger I was the less they gave a shit too. Like, those were my most formative years, teachers that threw a book at me and told me to do the questions on page 48 and stop fucking talking

that's what i'm saying this old meme about how teachers are put upon underpaid heroes is so laughabe

i even did sub teaching and teachers are often dead eyed rule drones that are basically just doing day care for a bunch of kids the system already gave up on

[Trotskilicious]

the kids were bored with month 2 of math games for the standardized test so i thoguht i would show them how to use google maps

i was not invited back

[Trotskilicious]

i mean you cannot let these children use computers for teaching computer skills, they are for shitty math games they hate, mr. sweeney

[Trotskilicious]

turning the computer on and double clicking on their TAKS prep game is the only skill they need to have mr. sweeney

"but they are 12 and can't type"

we are not teaching them how to type, mr. sweeney.

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

nah about half of them if not more are completely all about standardized testing

Yeah, just doing their job, who are they to go against what they're told to do?

[Shallowed]

I mean the very fact that their teaching is standardised suggests that the teachers are obviously not the ones that made it that way or that they want to

[Trotskilicious]

[Shallowed]

You didn't want to teach kids to the standardised test and were asked to not come back

and you wonder why there are so few or no teachers like you

[Elphenor]

He makes a good point

[Trotskilicious]

No he didn't.

[Elphenor]

The system gets rid of people who try to teach like you did

[Trotskilicious]

I don't even know how it relates to what we're talking about. i can't even get into the multiple different ways that he didn't get it

the final parting shot is the best part, i wasn't going to be their teacher at any point i was just there for the interim and their interim plan for these kids was to play the same math game for six months

and shallowed is defending this as an institution

it's amazing

[Elphenor]

All the teachers I've had were constantly complaining about standardized testing and such and how it forced them onto useless curriculums

[Shallowed]

Actually I'm blaming the institution, you guys are blaming the teachers for doing their jobs set out for them.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

The system gets rid of people who try to teach like you did

that wasn't his point

what he was saying was that the system works

[Eulogy]

I had three good high school English teachers and two good math ones.

I consider myself lucky in that regard.

[Elphenor]

I think there were teachers I didn't like but then the guy next to me liked that teacher which explains the 10% thing

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

Actually I'm blaming the institution, you guys are blaming the teachers for doing their jobs set out for them.

people who enthusiastically participate in a shitty system are just as culpable. what you don't realize is that standardized testing is popular with the majority of teachers because above all, it's fucking easy.

and i've known teachers who knew who how to break the rules, they're the 10% and yeah they get fired

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

that wasn't his point

what he was saying was that the system works

No he's right that was exactly my point, what you are saying I was saying is not what I was saying at all

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

I had three good high school English teachers and two good math ones.

I consider myself lucky in that regard.

i had a couple history teachers and a journalism teacher in high school and a fantastic 4th & 5th grade teach

professor wise i think maybe 2 or 3

[Elphenor]

It's interesting that there's a branch of teacher hate even among liberals

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

people who enthusiastically participate in a shitty system are just as culpable.

what, I thought they were dead eyed drones

[Elphenor]

What are they like lawyers?