Free public transport

[Tootles]

Spunk, thank you for being one of the few that actually has some common sense about this.

[Trotskilicious]

selfish pricks, i hope you guys are murdered by the revolution

[Trotskilicious]

i'll do it myself

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by sppunk

Especially sinking money entirely into a loss-leader.

this is such a fucking joke of a sentence

only worth putting money into social programs that make a profit

[Trotskilicious]

hey here's a brainstorm maybe they should get paid higher wages then we wouldn't have to talk about free public transport. if you can run a bus system on dollar rides then i'm not sure what the HUGE COST SINK is for the whole thing to be free, there are reduced and free rates for the VERY needy just not the REGULAR lazy excuse filled scummy lazy poor that suck all my moneh away!

they're stupid and lazy and they deserve it amirite

i'm not going to pay their way, i'm sppunk i live on an inheritance i married into

[Tootles]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i'll do it myself

Cute trots. You are a washed up loser. You hate on success while talking about the successful hating the "disadvantaged." It's called being a hypocrite.

[Tootles]

[quote=Trotskilicious;4143050]hey here's a brainstorm maybe they should get paid higher wages then we wouldn't have to talk about free public transport.

Here is a brain storm. Go to college. Further your education. Get a grant....ITS FREE!!!! Don't give me this "I can't go back to schooooooollllll" DO IT. How is that for a brainstorm. Take YOUR life in YOUR hands and stop relying on OTHERS to do it for you......Brainstorm over.

[Tootles]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

selfish pricks, i hope you guys are murdered by the revolution

There will be no revolution. These people who you wish to start a revolution with......are all to lazy. Too busy complaining about "the man."

[Cool As Ice Cream]

oh, man, the man. don't get me started on him.

[dreams of glass]

Originally Posted by hnibos

Maybe that person couldn't make the interview because they have kids to pick up from school and the bus takes too long. Or that fare money needs to go towards food for the day for their family. Or for medicine for themselves or their loved ones.

Why do people think because they did something that anyone can do it? It's not about making excuses for someone, it's about understanding the hardships some people face. Dream of glass and tootles can't wrap thier heads around that.

I think I was specifically addressing Elph's post that he knew people in SD who couldn't make it to a job interview because the bus cost too much, and my response was that there are always options if you need to get somewhere.

Sure, I understand that all kinds of catastrophes can happen to people, and it's a lot tougher when you have a family and more mouths to feed. I'm not being insensitive.

[toase]

Originally Posted by sppunk

Right. So, the OP is stating thousands are marching to demand an increase in taxes. Brilliant strategy.

I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear...

Actually they march every time the governments announce a hike in the prices. Last time, for the first time, they could revert it, because, well, they were almost burning everything down.

The "free transportation" is the flag they fight for, but they will stop the protests if the hike is reverted.

I think is fair. Most of the taxes we pay are used to pay the country's debt, they are not actually used to improve anything besides the state-level capitalism.

And we already have free health care and free education (from daycare to post-doc or whatever is the highest level of education). So, it makes sense.

Your avatar is funny, btw. Here the ones who disagree are certainly right-wingers.

EDIT: In my city, disabled, unemployed, elder people and now poor students already have free transportation. There are even special vans that to transport disabled people door-to-door. Every student, including college students, pay half-price already.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

if you want to reduce the amount of cars on the roads, you could consider using taxes to make public transport cheaper, rather than building new roads.

it's easy for socialist like you to say something like that because you've never had to work hard to buy a car, pay for insurance and spend two hours every day commuting to and from a mindless job!

[MyOneAndOnly]

Am I mistaken or are the people in the USA that seem to bitch the most about public transit also the ones stuck wasting the half their life driving back and forth to work?

[Trotskilicious]

Yeah his fucking avatar hasnt changed since he started posting i dont think

Even though hes basically the last literate non hateful supply sider left. I mean i do tip my hat to you abt that sppunk

[houseofglass11]

Before I even opened this thread I knew Tootles would be in here grandstanding about how everyone needs to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps"

[Trotskilicious]

Hes a white man he knows how it is

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Tootles

You wouldn't be saying that if someone gave you a car. You are saying that out of anger because you ride your bike around town.

Someone did give me a car and I gave it back to them

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

I'm not being insensitive.

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

I'm not being insensitive.

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

I'm not being insensitive.

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

I'm not being insensitive.

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

I'm not being insensitive.

.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

B-but it's too faaarrr

waaahhhh

.

[Elphenor]

Does not compute

[dreams of glass]

what's so wrong about working hard to make a living

you guys call it "bootstrapping", like it's an impossible task

[Trotskilicious]

because people work hard and get nowhere and then shitty white people justify it because "they're not working hard enough"

"it's not my fault they didn't get an education"

"well if they didn't have so many kids..."

"if they don't like it get another job"

"well they could move out of the ghetto if it's so bad."

[Trotskilicious]

because as hunter s wrote in the 70s, this horatio alger myth is fucking bullshit and there's a lot less upward mobility than you think

and you subscribe to this self serving mentality that you 'worked hard' to do whatever it is that you do even though I'm sure you're from a place where you got a head start on life by having a middle class upbringing, access to health care and education and a fairly stable home and your mother wasn't, for example, a smack addict and you didn't struggle on the daily to be fed

[Trotskilicious]

do you want me to continue? because i could go on

[Trotskilicious]

of course i'm sure you're gonna come back at me at all the hardships you've endured like not having a car for a couple months and the fact that your mom wouldn't buy you a playstation because the divorce wrecked finances

[Elphenor]

Everyone I know who can't keep a job had parents who couldn't keep a job usually because drug and alcohol problems.

People don't exist in a vacuum so much of it has to do with upbringing.

Equalize all upbringings (which would be impossible) and then we can talk about "hardwork" or whatever

[Trotskilicious]

wait wait i know what the response is

"well we all have problems and disadvantages"

i can just see it writ in the stars

[Elphenor]

And then the bootstrapper says:

"Yeah well what about that one famous guy who had drug addict parents and is now a millionaire"

[dreams of glass]

I've had advantages, sure

I check my privilege on the daily

I've also had to struggle, and my mom struggled raising me

[dreams of glass]

life's tough, man